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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => SpeedWeek 2013 => Topic started by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 07, 2013, 10:28:53 AM

Title: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 07, 2013, 10:28:53 AM
Okay -- I've locked the "pre-event SpeedWeek topic so folks don't have to go through 20 pages oif stuff to find the latest information.  This should be the one we'll use for the next week and a half, okay?

So here we sit, at nearly 9.30 AM, and no toilets.  Trevor called yesterday to confirm the units will be here this morning, so if you're out on the salt and reading this -- unh, grab a couple of clothespins or something and hold it for now.

The salt, as I reported yesterday, is the stuff that adds about a half-inch to your height for every step.  And Lynda reports that someone has already broken through into the mud - but was able to get himself unstuck without a tow.  Stay well to the right of the cones when you're driving in - and hope that it continues to be 90++F and nice winds - all the better to dry things out.  Here in the pits seems to be the worst for right now, but I see one of the drags working to removed the slushy stuff and give us a good based on which to park.  After being dragged they'll let the newly-bared salt dry for a few hours.

And like I told you testerday - bring flyswatters!!  They're everywhere.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 07, 2013, 11:23:53 AM
After last year, I already packed the industrial-strength fly paper and a couple of Horror Fright electronic fly racquets in the truck. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 07, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
Try a zip lock bag, some water and a few pennies in it.

Worked for us when we went camping.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 07, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
Well, well -- a new record -- 40, count 'em 40 - private rental toilets.  Wow :-o :-o

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Texican on August 07, 2013, 01:34:06 PM
After last year, I already packed the industrial-strength fly paper and a couple of Horror Fright electronic fly racquets in the truck. 

Ask Lynda's daughter how well one of those zappers tasted?
Almost a Darwin award.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 07, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
Don't tell me she put her tongue on one!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 07, 2013, 03:43:06 PM
Also ask one of Lynda's daughters about being struck by lightning at Lands End.

Another time lightning struck the flag pole at Lands End and destroyed it.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Texican on August 07, 2013, 04:59:28 PM
Don't tell me she put her tongue on one!

Sorry to misslead; too much of a rush.
It was her boy friend.
Lynda said the look on his face was priceless; and she nearly rolled on the deck from laughing so hard!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 07, 2013, 05:28:24 PM
Here's what happens when I don't pack the socket set just right.  It's kinda like the old kids' card game:  52 Pickup...but here it's 105 Socket pickup.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 07, 2013, 05:31:40 PM
Try a zip lock bag, some water and a few pennies in it.

Worked for us when we went camping.

FREUD

Makes cents...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 07, 2013, 06:10:47 PM
Here they are - the first photos from the salt, sort of. . .

Fred Dannenfelzer's new liner:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0422_zpse120c3d3.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0422_zpse120c3d3.jpg.html)

Ice is available on the salt.  I don't think you can read the little sign, but it says "Open 6AM - 6PM"

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0425_zps252bf72d.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0425_zps252bf72d.jpg.html)

Here's what to look for as you drive down the course.  Floating Island is at the end of the line:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0418_zpsb77d9042.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0418_zpsb77d9042.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0417_zps29e2a9bc.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0417_zps29e2a9bc.jpg.html)

The salt is really dang smooth, even way out there near the seven mile where it is usually pretty well covered with pressure ridges:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0420_zps7fa7b6f1.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0420_zps7fa7b6f1.jpg.html)

And finally -- a few of your set-up crew taking a well deserved break.  Note that they're sitting on the back porch of an SCTA trailer.  I'm teasing them, but it is amazing how quickly things get put together out here.  We dropped off our pit trailer yesterday and there was - basically - nothing set up but a few of the roads and courses were being dragged.  Today -- wow, what a difference.  And yes, today there are toilets.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0423_zps5b9938a3.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/IMG_0423_zps5b9938a3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 07, 2013, 08:26:47 PM
Love that line.

Can you imagine Freddie in a streamliner?

Torg would have been impressed.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 07, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
Truck is packed and our pits will be set up when I get there manana! :-D

BBQ 5-8PM Saturday night at the museum suite. I did not count but we have 75-100 items for the raffle. Artwork, Ts, old carparts, a cool ratfink Mechanic stool etc..............we will start the raffle towards the end, must be present to win. Tickets $5 a pop, no limit. Thanks, Trent
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 07, 2013, 11:53:13 PM
I turned on the drier and made it a bit whiter.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Glen on August 08, 2013, 06:04:47 AM
Leaving in about 10 minutes for the salt. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 08, 2013, 06:49:43 AM
Slim,
Thanks for the pictures.

Everyone, have fun, go fast and be safe.

BR
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 08, 2013, 07:00:14 AM
I'm heading out in about 2 hours.  8-) Wayno
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Peter Jack on August 08, 2013, 07:44:06 AM
I hope you're meeting the "T-II" there Glen!

Good Luck!!!  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: saltcatracing on August 08, 2013, 09:13:42 AM
Salt Cat Racing Team on the road - Yee Haw!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: floydjer on August 08, 2013, 10:10:12 AM
Try a zip lock bag, some water and a few pennies in it.

Worked for us when we went camping.

FREUD

Makes cents...
.....I did not know that you and I are related.....................
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 08, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
Love that line.

Can you imagine Freddie in a streamliner?

Torg would have been impressed.

FREUD

 Whats really impressive is that Freddy built it in less than a year and most in his shop :-o

 George Fields did the skin from what I know.

 LOOKS like a wing on there :cheers:

             JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 08, 2013, 11:20:50 AM
I turned on the drier and made it a bit whiter.

FREUD

 I suggested doing that years ago to save on the high cost of oil amd using a gps like the farmers use to keep their rows straight.

  Any how I called Ed Whitley who is out on the course and works on the crew putting up the 1/4 and mile markers which they are still using.

  The blue line ''from what Ed told me''is a science project from Miriam Macmillan's school class.The dye is bio -degradeble and goes away in 21 days 8-)

 Ed said its dark clouds and a light sprinkle right now but line is not bleeding.

 Hey Slim, how about more info from Miriam?

              JL222

 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: USFRAMONTE on August 08, 2013, 11:36:54 AM
My compliments to Mr. Lattin.  That guy can drive a straight line!  We all know how hard that is out there.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 08, 2013, 12:41:12 PM
My compliments to Mr. Lattin.  That guy can drive a straight line!  We all know how hard that is out there.

  Yea, that is straight! I wonder if they did the old set out the cones and truck driver aimed for cones and course worker yanked out of way at last minute? But looks straighter than old way.

  There's a device that the farmers use that steers the vehicle off the gps signal. Wonder if they used that?

         JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: USFRAMONTE on August 08, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
From what I heard, they used the old fashioned cone method.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 08, 2013, 02:12:37 PM
Well, it's not from Miriam - or anyone that wants to be identified - but first and foremost, the BLM is "rumored" to be on-site with UNMARKED cars, handing out tickets for everything from unlicensed vehicles being operated with no helmets on youngsters driving pit vehicles to failure to use the required number of sheets of toilet paper while using one of my favorite little rooms.  Beware.  Seriously -- they are out here, I'm told.  And watch your speed on the entry road, as usual -- Tooele County is here, and in town -- watch your speed on the exit ramp getting off at exit #2 - the one that takes you to the east end of Wendover.  I've seen po-leece there radaring cars that haven't slowed down from freeway speed yet.

Other than that, let's see.  Jacey of the Enola Gay cafe is here and they're serving food in the vendor area today and tomorrow.  Then starting Saturday they'll be located at the #1&2 start line with two, count them two, locations.  This year they'll have turkey burgers and gyros when it's not too hot and foot long dogs and burgers and chicken sandwiches, and maybe more but that's all I can remember.  Why do they get a nice mention?  Because they lend us their big 8-burner grill for Salt Talks, thank you very much, that's why.

Here are some photos of stuff from this morning, mostly in the lines for inspection.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020758_zps076d2a85.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020758_zps076d2a85.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020759_zps209f23a2.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020759_zps209f23a2.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020757_zps4d82c9d6.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020757_zps4d82c9d6.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020756_zps7954cffc.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020756_zps7954cffc.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020754_zpsbd968ad8.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020754_zpsbd968ad8.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020755_zpsacf3212e.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020755_zpsacf3212e.jpg.html)

Indy car, right?

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020750_zpsb856071d.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020750_zpsb856071d.jpg.html)

But this is the cool part -- period correct.  I wonder if this really did used to be "the" car.  If so -- hey, I saw that car run all those years ago.  I mean, Roger Ward and A J Watson are pretty well-known names. . .and all of the cars of that day were "Something or other Specials".  Cool to see. No, I didn't see what motor it had.  If it really is an Offy I'll try to get photos for you.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020751_zpsd1f60f60.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020751_zpsd1f60f60.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020752_zps46409964.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020752_zps46409964.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020753_zps1207a41f.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020753_zps1207a41f.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020748_zps76d3bf00.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020748_zps76d3bf00.jpg.html)

Lots of smoky vehicles here this year:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020749_zps4aaad6bf.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020749_zps4aaad6bf.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020747_zps96105f19.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020747_zps96105f19.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020746_zps83bada6d.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020746_zps83bada6d.jpg.html)

Please note Jeff Brock's air intake and the cover:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020745_zps4208308c.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020745_zps4208308c.jpg.html)

And here's Nancy and Jeff hisself:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020744_zps9d3b8635.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020744_zps9d3b8635.jpg.html)

If you're a bike racer - here's the first face you'll see at inspection - Cathy Butler.  She looks at your safety garb and fire ext. and so on:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020740_zps966c1c39.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020740_zps966c1c39.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020736_zpsa421fc8f.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020736_zpsa421fc8f.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020741_zps74885886.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020741_zps74885886.jpg.html)

Here's that motorhome, complete with cage:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020737_zps1b125676.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020737_zps1b125676.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020742_zps3b316a1c.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020742_zps3b316a1c.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020743_zps4cd8c9ff.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020743_zps4cd8c9ff.jpg.html)

Rex Svoboda's car is here.  Notice, as usual, the size of that little blower:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020738_zps69874e17.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020738_zps69874e17.jpg.html)

That's it for now.  I've got to get back to sending toilets around.  We had 29 at our pit this morning -- already down a half dozen.  Hope that diarrhea goes away soon. :evil:


PS  If they used the "cone" method for the blue lines - they weren't calling on the radio for volunteer cone-holders like they used to do.  And it's Miriam's daughter's class that came up with the idea.  I forget her name, but here's fair warning -- she's working in the registration area giving out the driver (yellow) armbands, and she's checking your BNI/SCTA membership card.  See if you can find yours.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: theazoldcrow on August 08, 2013, 02:49:08 PM
 :-D
Slim,,,, thanks a groupe !  This is nice for us of you all that could not make it this year !  Thanks again,,, but I'll be there next year !

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SPARKY on August 08, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
in the IeeeMortal words of Wille  " On the road again, on the road
again, I just cant wait to be with my FRIENDS on the road again"

We are out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 08, 2013, 03:00:13 PM
Great photos, SSS.  Love 'em!

Pork Pie otta be there now...last nite we dragged him (kicking and screaming) into the 20th (yep, 20th) by getting his cell phone to work.  I'll leave it up to him to hand out his number if he so chooses, 

I finally found a room at Knight's in (yeah, it's a dump, but a dump I'm familiar with) and I'll be there tomorrow (Friday.)  I'm very tempted to bring my Camaro, bit it's kinda hard to set up a tripod on top of it...so I'll be there in my old red Burb.  I otta be able to show up around noon tomorrow.  I hope to contribute some photos to this thread.

I remain, as always, yr fthfl srvnt (I been listening to too many audiobooks with 19th century content...it's broiled my brain even more that it was to start with.  [I'd like to buy  VOWEL, by a vowel, Pat!])

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 08, 2013, 03:05:45 PM
in the IeeeMortal words of Wille  " On the road again, on the road
again, I just cant wait to be with my FRIENDS on the road again"

We are out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think ya gotta give credit for that to Canned Heat (1966) and before that to Bob Dylan (1965).  Willie covered the Canned Heat version in 1970.

Lookin forward to see ya, Sparky.  Remember the old daze at the Bend?  Sometimes dreams DO come true.


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 08, 2013, 03:12:32 PM
Ray, now I know why Pork Pie was complaining of the inhuman treatment he received at the hands of the folks in Taylorsville.  Whatever -- yes, he's here.  I'll take more photos, but right now I'm staying close to the pit to hand out toilet keys. :? :?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 08, 2013, 03:15:40 PM
Ray, now I know why Pork Pie was complaining of the inhuman treatment he received at the hands of the folks in Taylorsville.  Whatever -- yes, he's here.  I'll take more photos, but right now I'm staying close to the pit to hand out toilet keys. :? :?

Yeah...he had to ride in my Camaro.  Cruel and unusual.  :)  But he slipped out of the force field and escaped bright and blurry-eyed.  LOL!

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: fredvance on August 08, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Leaving at 7am tomorrow, see everyone on Sunday.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 1leg on August 08, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
I will be leaving esco around 8:30am, driving straight thru except for brief stop in Ely to visit family. Plan to camp out the first night, then i will be staying in the hotel for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 08, 2013, 09:26:20 PM
Got through tech today with the XsStress '32 Ford - on the line tomorrow!  :cheers:

Check out my scoop article in BRN! :-o

Salt is gooey in the pits but a good drying day!  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 08, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
Woody -- that's who that familiar guy we saw is/was.  Yeah - I knew it all along.

So here are a few more photos from this afternoon.  Again -- I was kinda required to stay near the pit to keep an eye open for folks getting their personal toilets - but tomorrow I'll get more photos of who's here.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020772_zps66e3e4aa.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020772_zps66e3e4aa.jpg.html)

Bodywork for...

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020766_zps5bc4f1c2.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020766_zps5bc4f1c2.jpg.html)

...this car:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020767_zps1985550e.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020767_zps1985550e.jpg.html)

Right next to Nancy and me, in the SSS pit, is the White Goose Bar pit.  Here's the little truck:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020771_zps7014ec33.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020771_zps7014ec33.jpg.html)

There are two wheelers -

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020768_zps38f9271c.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020768_zps38f9271c.jpg.html)

...and then there are two wheelers:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020765_zps317cfcc2.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020765_zps317cfcc2.jpg.html)

Wayno's car is in the WGB pit:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020769_zps46693042.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020769_zps46693042.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020763_zps295bf06c.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020763_zps295bf06c.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020770_zps48742897.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020770_zps48742897.jpg.html)

Aermacchi?

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020758_zps076d2a85.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020758_zps076d2a85.jpg.html)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020759_zps209f23a2.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/SpeedWeek%202013/P1020759_zps209f23a2.jpg.html)

Final one for the evening.  Mike Cook has these bodies here -- fiberglas - and more on the way.  More of these models, more of others, too:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/P1020764_zpsa9033d95.jpg) (http://s263.photobucket.com/user/SeldomSeenSlim/media/P1020764_zpsa9033d95.jpg.html)

See you tomorrow, folks.  Ray says he'll be here so maybe there'll be more photos sooner or later, but in the meantime I'll try to show you some of the diversity that I saw today.  The 911 roadster - looking great.  The Amo-Steele-Streamliner is here - saw Jon at supper - but maybe tomorrow I'll get a photo when it's out of the trailer.  Gary Hart's car is here -- I didn't see it yet, but one of his crew came over for a visit.  Seth Hammond's car is out in front of the motel -- but it's already dark and I can't get a good photo.

Last comment -- go take a read on the Salt Talks thread and see a bit about the quilt raffle.  I want to sell all 75 tickets for chances on it.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Wester on August 08, 2013, 11:17:07 PM
My vote for the build of the meet so far is the Stupedbaker Racing Team from Georgia.  That coupe is very well done.  It's shown in the photos above with the front end off for inspection.  It must be a salt newcomer, I don't remember seeing it last year..
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 09, 2013, 12:16:17 AM
The Freddy liner looks very impressive.  Simple paint and shapes.  It looks like he put his efforts into other areas, like the parts that make it go fast.

Have a good meet and drive and ride to some new records, without crashing, of course.  Wishing you'all the best.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 09, 2013, 07:11:42 AM
My vote for the build of the meet so far is the Stupedbaker Racing Team from Georgia.  That coupe is very well done.  It's shown in the photos above with the front end off for inspection.  It must be a salt newcomer, I don't remember seeing it last year..

Pure speculation here!

The guy in the orange shirt at the front of the car looks like Paul Powell who built engines for Courtney Hizer's ALT Buick. After Courtney passed, his crew (sorry don't know names) ran the car at Maxton and the last time I saw that car was at the last meet there in 2011. This could be a new car that his crew has built.

Again, pure speculation on my part.

Just seeing this one picture, I will agree that whoever built this car did a VERY good job.....I'd love to see it up close.

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: pasodude on August 09, 2013, 07:26:40 AM
Good luck everbody ! & thanks for pic slim  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SteveM on August 09, 2013, 08:57:49 AM
All these pics have me salivating :-o

I can't wait to listen to the SpeedWeek live feed, and keep watching for pic updates.

If anyone happens to see the #8217 entry (H/DT), it would be fantastic if you would post a photo. 

Keep up the excellent work, and may you be blessed with sunny, dry weather!

Steve.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: revolutionary on August 09, 2013, 12:24:53 PM
Big frowny face that I can't make it this year.  :-(

Keep up with the pics and posts please!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 09, 2013, 05:21:14 PM
My vote for the build of the meet so far is the Stupedbaker Racing Team from Georgia.  That coupe is very well done.  It's shown in the photos above with the front end off for inspection.  It must be a salt newcomer, I don't remember seeing it last year..
Any more info on this one? I noticed it in the pre-entries in C/GCC.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 09, 2013, 05:37:21 PM
For those afar, Bangshift.com is going live tonight at 7pm PDT.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 09, 2013, 08:47:17 PM
We left the salt about 6.45 PM and drove past a fella that was -Ranger and Sheriff vehicles.  The guy was blowing in a breathalyzer (don't ask how I know what one looks like :roll:) and the officers were talking amongst themselves. 

Boyoboy is the "law" cracking down.  I know they'll bust you for having a glass drink container that is not either in your vehicle or your pit trailer, and kids under 18 or maybe its' 16 must wear a helmet if they're driving an ATV or a bike, and that the bike or ATV must be either registered in the home state or be displaying a temporary Utah registration.

Want me to go on?  If you're out here -- be careful and ask about what you are and are not allowed to do.  When you get to Land's End you'll be given a sheet with a course layout diagram on one side and the list of BLM rules on the other.  Don't worry about the courses as much as you need to be good girls and boys according to the rules.

And it's a federal park!  How come they can have helmet laws, especially since Utah - the state in which the salt is - doesn't have a helmet law?  One can only wonder, and I won't say anything more in case they're reading these posts.  Why stir up the fire?

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 09, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
Ray, Pork Pie Hotrod, could someone post a pic from today on the salt...or more than one..?..

Joe
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 09:12:31 PM
Yep, Slim, I saw the gendarmes at the Bend when I went thru about an hour before.  If I was a conspirin' man, I'd say that there's a little bit of revenue enhancement in progress.  But life's is what it is and I can only echo the suggestions of taking care when the "bears" are around...or even MIGHT be around. 

The stop sign at the I-80 overpass going toward the truck stop is one place to take care....Mike Cook and I got busted on the same day a coupla years ago,  I guess the cop saw that it was my birthday and only gave me a warning, but Cook got nailed.

Another place to take care is right across from Mike Crawford's auto parts store.  An easy place to nail folks leavin Wendover in a hurry to get to the salt.

Meanwhile, here are a few photos from today:

The Vinson/Allison Corvette built by Rob Freyvogel...last year it ran in A/BGT, but Rob says it was virtually uncontrollable, even tho he got a red hat out of it.  So this year it's running in A/BMS with some downforce changes added.  Vinson tells me that they know all about the wide tire thing and that they have a set of "skinnies" but they wanna try the fat tires first.  Could be interesting to be out around the 5 mile marker when he runs it.

The next 2 photos are of a Mustang being run by a couple of gents from the UK...they were telling a story about the Carrera Panamericana when I came to visit with 'em but their Shelsley Walsh Hillclimb (the oldest operational motorsport venue in the world) kinda gave 'em away as Brits.  Nice chaps, I say.  :)

 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 09:14:13 PM
Ray, Pork Pie Hotrod, could someone post a pic from today on the salt...or more than one..?..

Joe

Your wish is my command, god sir.  LOL!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 09:21:04 PM
I think the first photo is of a Divco milk truck (or milk float as they calls 'em in the UK) and suitably slammed for extra "kool points."
 
The next 3 are of a very interesting take on what must be an unholy crossbreeding of a 58 Edsel and a....something else.  :)  The thing that really got my attention about it was the J C Whitney style wide whitewall "accessories" that are seen on the back.  I have to shamefully admit to having used 'em on a car back in the early 60s.  They didn't work any better back then, either.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 09, 2013, 09:21:52 PM
Ray...not to shabby...4 minutes from whining to results...

i know you all are busy...so i bit my tongue for 15 hrs from 0500 to 2000....

Joe :)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 09:53:42 PM
Ray...not to shabby...4 minutes from whining to results...

i know you all are busy...so i bit my tongue for 15 hrs from 0500 to 2000....

Joe :)

How about this one?  It's the only shot I got of the tail-hanger Buick-engined Amo-Steele liner.  Definitely a different configuration.

Then we got a coupla shots of a "Lucra"...I'd never heard of one.  Had to look into it a bit and found this: http://www.lucracars.com/#!about/c1enr (http://www.lucracars.com/#!about/c1enr)  Another real interesting beast.  I dunno what motor that one had in it...they can be had with an LS3, LS7 or a blown Mercedes V8.  I guess I can look under the hood of my Camaro and find an LS3.  The rest is a little too rich for my bank balance and Social Security,  LOL!  I guess the name "Lucra" could be interpreted in a coupla ways: Maybe as in "lucrative" or as in "filthy lucre" (meaning gain in terms of money or wealth.)  Who knows?






Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Dan on August 09, 2013, 10:08:48 PM
Please don't hate me for this post but I sent three intake manifolds to Speed Week with the High Gear Ranch crew. They are clean and wrapped in plastic wrap. Two are iron and one is aluminum. They don't take up much space but! They are ultimately supposed to end up in Georgia to be modfied and sent back to the West Coast. Problem is my connection from Speed Week to East of the Mississippi didn't make it so now they are sitting in Impound and hoping that someone has room in their truck or car or trailer for them. If I can get them East of the river my Georgia guy can make the rest of the connection. So I am checking to see if any of the people who were lucky enough to make it this year can help a couple of fellow racers out with this logistical issue? Dan Warner and Dan Stokes should be in possession of the manifolds by now or by tomorrow at the latest. Thanks in advance and I wish I was there. Next year with the brand new Dutch Treat Super Lark competition coupe.
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
A few more. 

A Falcon Ranchero with a Nissan 6-banger in it...I think Henry would sh*t a brick after seein that.

Then there's a lakester that I don't know anything about, but it looks interesting.  I'm too tired to run down to my Burb to get the program and look it up.  I first saw it in a rear view and for some reason it told me that it wanted to have its picture taken...or something.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 09, 2013, 10:24:39 PM
Hey fella's, loving the great coverage already and racing hasn't even started yet. I, like all of you, am looking forward to keeping myself glued to the computer all week to take in all of your first hand accounts of the action taking place out on the salt. That said, thank you very much to all involved, your tireless efforts are much appreciated.  :cheers:

Quick question, does anyone have any information on the "Flashpoint" streamliner? I've never heard of this car before, but just saw a few photo's of the car on Bangshift and the power plant in it looks pretty serious.

P.S. I'm looking forward to hearing how Damion Gardner runs in the "Green Demon" modified sprint car.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 10:25:50 PM
Last one for tonite.  A coupla names that otta be easily recognized:  Fast Freddy and Jonny Hotnuts:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 09, 2013, 10:26:23 PM
Thanks Ray! I'm sure i will be repeating this phrase a lot this week :)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 09, 2013, 10:36:38 PM
Hey fella's, loving the great coverage already and racing hasn't even started yet. I, like all of you, am looking forward to keeping myself glued to the computer all week to take in all of your first hand accounts of the action taking place out on the salt. That said, thank you very much to all involved, your tireless efforts are much appreciated.  :cheers:

Quick question, does anyone have any information on the "Flashpoint" streamliner? I've never heard of this car before, but just saw a few photo's of the car on Bangshift and the power plant in it looks pretty serious.

P.S. I'm looking forward to hearing how Damion Gardner runs in the "Green Demon" modified sprint car.

Ok, I lied.  Here's a shot of the "Green Demon."  I don't know anything about it except that it's running Time Only.

Then there's the Roger Ward/A J Watson Champ car with Offy motor and labeled XXO/VOT.  Gotta be something to watch.

Then a coupla shots taken from the door of my motel room.  They could almost be from the 50s or 60s. 

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jimmy six on August 09, 2013, 10:56:37 PM
Only a rumor I heard sitting in Fast Freddie's pit...best you not be sitting in your pick-up enjoying an adult beverage in an open container even with the engine not running when the ranger/sheriff passes by....considered an open container infraction....even tho your not moving..

Still having a great time.....JD

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 09, 2013, 11:12:27 PM
Avanti Dan:  I'll be going back to Upper Michigan with room in the trailer -- but not 'til after the season out here ends, whether after the Shootout or after World Finals (WF is about 50-50 rained or weathered out).  If the manifolds can wait, and if it's okay to take 'em to Marquette, MIchigan, you're welcome to have 'em spend a few weeks in my trailer.  Let me know, hey?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 09, 2013, 11:12:48 PM
Please remember tomorrow, for the first time, Bonneville Speed Week goes LIVE on line! You can share this link with your friends/family and other racers please! There will also be a current photo slideslow from the days' events! They'll be showing pictures of the teams and all of your buddies. Check it out, starting tomorrow! http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 09, 2013, 11:41:16 PM
Yep, Slim, I saw the gendarmes at the Bend when I went thru about an hour before.  If I was a conspirin' man, I'd say that there's a little bit of revenue enhancement in progress.  But life's is what it is and I can only echo the suggestions of taking care when the "bears" are around...or even MIGHT be around.  

The stop sign at the I-80 overpass going toward the truck stop is one place to take care....Mike Cook and I got busted on the same day a coupla years ago,  I guess the cop saw that it was my birthday and only gave me a warning, but Cook got nailed.

Another place to take care is right across from Mike Crawford's auto parts store.  An easy place to nail folks leavin Wendover in a hurry to get to the salt.

Meanwhile, here are a few photos from today:

The Vinson/Allison Corvette built by Rob Freyvogel...last year it ran in A/BGT, but Rob says it was virtually uncontrollable, even tho he got a red hat out of it.  So this year it's running in A/BMS with some downforce changes added.  Vinson tells me that they know all about the wide tire thing and that they have a set of "skinnies" but they wanna try the fat tires first.  Could be interesting to be out around the 5 mile marker when he runs it.

The next 2 photos are of a Mustang being run by a couple of gents from the UK...they were telling a story about the Carrera Panamericana when I came to visit with 'em but their Shelsley Walsh Hillclimb (the oldest operational motorsport venue in the world) kinda gave 'em away as Brits.  Nice chaps, I say.  :)

 


 Yea Ray don't run those wide tires we were only able to get a 280mph 21/4 and 294mph 1st mile time blowing before 3 mile trap in 2011. :-D  A/blown GAS altered

 Everyone should use skinneys :-D

 We did have a 288 mph with a 279 exit speed in 1994 at World of speed when overdrive slipped, should have used those skinney tires and gone real fast :roll:

 Yea you gota listen to the EXPERTS :-o

        JL222
 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 10, 2013, 12:30:28 AM

Quick question, does anyone have any information on the "Flashpoint" streamliner? I've never heard of this car before, but just saw a few photo's of the car on Bangshift and the power plant in it looks pretty serious.

7800   A    BFS       DALTON, JACKSON & MAYER    CA
here is some info on DMPEs site:
http://www.dmpeinc.com/superchargers/ (http://www.dmpeinc.com/superchargers/)
and here:
www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,11880.255.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,11880.255.html)
scroll down a bit
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 08:30:33 AM
Yep, Slim, I saw the gendarmes at the Bend when I went thru about an hour before.  If I was a conspirin' man, I'd say that there's a little bit of revenue enhancement in progress.  But life's is what it is and I can only echo the suggestions of taking care when the "bears" are around...or even MIGHT be around. 

The stop sign at the I-80 overpass going toward the truck stop is one place to take care....Mike Cook and I got busted on the same day a coupla years ago,  I guess the cop saw that it was my birthday and only gave me a warning, but Cook got nailed.

Another place to take care is right across from Mike Crawford's auto parts store.  An easy place to nail folks leavin Wendover in a hurry to get to the salt.

Meanwhile, here are a few photos from today:

The Vinson/Allison Corvette built by Rob Freyvogel...last year it ran in A/BGT, but Rob says it was virtually uncontrollable, even tho he got a red hat out of it.  So this year it's running in A/BMS with some downforce changes added.  Vinson tells me that they know all about the wide tire thing and that they have a set of "skinnies" but they wanna try the fat tires first.  Could be interesting to be out around the 5 mile marker when he runs it.

The next 2 photos are of a Mustang being run by a couple of gents from the UK...they were telling a story about the Carrera Panamericana when I came to visit with 'em but their Shelsley Walsh Hillclimb (the oldest operational motorsport venue in the world) kinda gave 'em away as Brits.  Nice chaps, I say.  :)

 


 Yea Ray don't run those wide tires we were only able to get a 280mph 21/4 and 294mph 1st mile time blowing before 3 mile trap in 2011. :-D  A/blown GAS altered

 Everyone should use skinneys :-D

 We did have a 288 mph with a 279 exit speed in 1994 at World of speed when overdrive slipped, should have used those skinney tires and gone real fast :roll:

 Yea you gota listen to the EXPERTS :-o

        JL222
 

I don't have a dog in this fight...I'm just reporting what I was told.  If the car runs thru the 5 at 300...well, I hope I'm there to get a shot of it.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 10, 2013, 09:12:17 AM
Thanks everyone for the updates. This is the first one that I've missed since 2001.......but, 2 kids have sorta' changed things. If your on 'Instagram' people are tagging #bonneville and posting great shots.

I'm really hoping that the stream works and doesn't crash.

Chris Nelson
Kansas
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Texican just called me to tell me that the Subway in Wendover will be open 24 hours...so if ya want a sandwich in the middle of the night ya know where ya can get one.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 10, 2013, 09:24:39 AM

Quick question, does anyone have any information on the "Flashpoint" streamliner? I've never heard of this car before, but just saw a few photo's of the car on Bangshift and the power plant in it looks pretty serious.

7800   A    BFS       DALTON, JACKSON & MAYER    CA
here is some info on DMPEs site:
http://www.dmpeinc.com/superchargers/ (http://www.dmpeinc.com/superchargers/)
and here:
www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,11880.255.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,11880.255.html)
scroll down a bit

Thank you. Very impressive numbers last year. I look forward to hearing how you guys run this week. Good luck!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 10, 2013, 09:56:26 AM
JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

What is interesting about this whole debate is that the only car that has gone as fast in the first mile was the Leggit/Lindsay firebird that had skinny tires on it, but had twice the HP.   :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 10, 2013, 10:47:12 AM
Hey, any word on when the audio broadcast will start?? will it be after the Drivers meeting or when the racing starts on the 4 race courses??  :?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 11:06:12 AM
Drivers meeting ended a coupla minutes ago.  Here are some shots from the staging lane (long course):

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 10, 2013, 11:26:39 AM
LIVE from Bonneville!
The SCTA link doesn't work. This one is correct.
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: draglc on August 10, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
thanks mate  :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 11:43:35 AM
LIVE from Bonneville!
The SCTA link doesn't work. This one is correct.
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html)

thanks for the link, but are they broadcasting yet?  I cant hear anything yet. :-P
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 10, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
It is fully how perception changes when one gets older.  Fancy solutions to technical problems impressed me when I was a fresh new engineer.  Mid career, this changed.  Now simple solutions made much more sense.  Now, as I am near the end of my game, folks that make things that do not have problems requiring solutions impress me the most of all.  There are some pretty plain Jane appearing cars in these photos.  These are some of the most elegantly designed ones when a person looks close.

Thanks for the good coverage.  It is time for me to get back to THRASHIN'
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: biglady112 on August 10, 2013, 12:01:20 PM
They have been broadcasting for over an hour. Works fine for me.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
They have been broadcasting for over an hour. Works fine for me.

I think my work computer is blocking it, so my kids mac works!!! Did I miss anything big numbers?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 12:21:45 PM
Sounds like the Cohn, Jesewick(sp, sorry) monza lost parts and spun. :oops:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 12:21:52 PM
A little fun at the long course starting line.  There were a coupla pickups parked in a real bad place...like 100 yards downcourse and way too close  to the racing line.  The officials broadcast the license numbers and did their best to get the owners to move 'em.  One of 'em got to his truck and moved it (I think hr got an earful from the officials) but the second one never showed up.  After a few minutes, I heard a cheer from the folks around me and I saw the truck being dragged away at the end of a tow strap.  Too bad they didn't have a boot to put on it.  

The first car to run was a truck, specifically a diesel.  Not nearly as much smoke as Joint Venture made but it was enough.

Finally the Poteet/Main Speed Demon got away (they had a little delay for some reason) and the motor was shootin ducks thru 1st and 2nd gear, but recovered pretty nicely to run 443 mph exit speed.  Btw, check the photogs and the kid in the Demon photo.  Just what we discussed in a different thread last week.  Sheesh!

Since I've been writing this, we've had 2 course sweeps for broken parts (one of which was Bob Merickle's stretched Metropolitan) and one flat spin.  And a helicopter has landed near the courses.  Stay tuned.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 10, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
Must be doing something wrong. I get a blue square on the SCTA site but cannot hear anything...yes I checked my mute button!


LIVE from Bonneville!
The SCTA link doesn't work. This one is correct.
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html)

thanks for the link, but are they broadcasting yet?  I cant hear anything yet. :-P
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 12:27:47 PM
Must be doing something wrong. I get a blue square on the SCTA site but cannot hear anything...yes I checked my mute button!


LIVE from Bonneville!
The SCTA link doesn't work. This one is correct.
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html)

thanks for the link, but are they broadcasting yet?  I cant hear anything yet. :-P

It isnt working on my computer but it is on my kids mac.  Must be something on the compuer blocking the site.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
I just tried the link and got a 404 (not found) error.  Earlier today the whole SCTA site was fubar.  I guess you could say "technical problems."
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Bob Drury on August 10, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
No problems here..............  Bob 10:36 a.m. pdt
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 10, 2013, 12:36:46 PM
JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

  joea...just think what ANY drag car with over 500hp would do with skinny tires on asphalt.

  Hey.. been there and done that in 1958 when my brother and my blown Olds street roadster got sideways on me in the traps at San Luis Obispo drags at 121 mph from spinning the 6'' drag tires.

  There has been a real fast Firebird with skinneys but the amount of weight used to hook up grossly overloaded
the weight rating of the tires. Something the SCTA/BNI looks the other way on.

  Here's something else to think about Joe, that 294mph ist mile was an average, top speed was 318 when it blew
just at the end of the 3 mile and before entering the 4 with 2 more miles to go.

 Yea listen to the EXPERTS :roll:

           JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 12:39:11 PM
Hammond just did a test pass and 242 in the 2 1/4 I believe, shut down and went 240 at the middle mile.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 12:45:18 PM
Salt cat racing lakester qaulified at 239 mph in the 4th mile.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 12:48:59 PM
Bonneville Bob went 257 at the five on an open record.  RMR not sure if it is blown or not.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 10, 2013, 12:49:51 PM
The live feed is working great for me.

Here a pic I just got from the timing tower, Poteet and Main (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/powdercoater/Speed%20Week%202013/poteetmain.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/powdercoater/media/Speed%20Week%202013/poteetmain.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 10, 2013, 12:57:19 PM

Ok, I switched from Internet Explorer to Firefox and it works great.

This is great for those of use stuck back home.

BR


The live feed is working great for me.

Here a pic I just got from the timing tower, Poteet and Main (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/powdercoater/Speed%20Week%202013/poteetmain.jpg) (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/powdercoater/media/Speed%20Week%202013/poteetmain.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Geo on August 10, 2013, 01:10:04 PM
This link works on my PC

 Reply #59 on: August 09, 2013, 11:12:48 PM

http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html


This does not

 Reply #70 on: Today at 11:26:39 AM

http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html

Both seem the same however they are not.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
not sure if the announcers realize it or not, but many of these first runs are tune up runs.  For the confident and unafraid of blowing engines they may make qualifing runs, which so far there have been a few.  Amo Steele comiing up.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 01:54:54 PM
Amo Steele 191mph, sounded like another tune up run only going thru the 3 and pulled chute before the 4.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 02:02:01 PM
#420 Got Salt racing BGL pulled the chute around the 2 mile, appears to be another tune up run.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 10, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
not a bad shakedown for Poteet and Main..440+ mph...320+ at the 2 1/4...just think if they  had wide tires...:)....
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 02:10:21 PM
car 608 2 1/4 256, 3-263, 4-271, 5-286mph.  non qaulifier.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 10, 2013, 02:14:51 PM

 Yea Ray don't run those wide tires we were only able to get a 280mph 21/4 and 294mph 1st mile time blowing before 3 mile trap in 2011. :-D  A/blown GAS altered

 Everyone should use skinneys :-D

 We did have a 288 mph with a 279 exit speed in 1994 at World of speed when overdrive slipped, should have used those skinney tires and gone real fast :roll:

 Yea you gota listen to the EXPERTS :-o

        JL222
 

JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

What is interesting about this whole debate is that the only car that has gone as fast in the first mile was the Leggit/Lindsay firebird that had skinny tires on it, but had twice the HP.   :cheers:

JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

  joea...just think what ANY drag car with over 500hp would do with skinny tires on asphalt.

  Hey.. been there and done that in 1958 when my brother and my blown Olds street roadster got sideways on me in the traps at San Luis Obispo drags at 121 mph from spinning the 6'' drag tires.

  There has been a real fast Firebird with skinneys but the amount of weight used to hook up grossly overloaded
the weight rating of the tires. Something the SCTA/BNI looks the other way on.

  Here's something else to think about Joe, that 294mph ist mile was an average, top speed was 318 when it blew
just at the end of the 3 mile and before entering the 4 with 2 more miles to go.

 Yea listen to the EXPERTS :roll:

           JL222

not a bad shakedown for Poteet and Main..440+ mph...320+ at the 2 1/4...just think if they  had wide tires...:)....

Guys, like Ray I don't have a dog in this fight, but this topic has been beat to death on this site. This thread is about Bonneville Speedweek 2013, let's just sit back and enjoy the topic and the live feed. Thanks for your consideration.

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
Amen, Tom!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 10, 2013, 02:28:01 PM
Thanks Tom G. Now back to racing.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 10, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
Good day, Ray.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Plmkrze on August 10, 2013, 02:32:49 PM
I'm at work and the "live" feed is not working. So, staying on step is important to me.   Yes ME!! I NEED MY BONNEVILLE FIX!!! Thanks guys for posting the runs.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Oh and the pictures too!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 02:36:50 PM
We have a wind hold on course 3 & 4.  It's at 18-24 mph at the timing stand. I just heard James say that they'll hold above 15 if it's a cross-wind.

Meanwhile, back at the racing, here's a shot of the helicopter ("no fixed wing aircraft, yada, yada...I guess rotary wing birds don't count) just before he landed...haven't seen it since.  Nor have I seen that truck that was dragged off the course.

A shot of the Salt Cat II on a qualifying run.

The 1810 Camaro was pushed off from the line with fuel problems and was soon joined by the Contrivance Engineering roadster.  Startin to look like a used car lot.



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 02:38:16 PM
Good day, Ray.

Howdy Mark.  How ya doin?

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 10, 2013, 02:40:37 PM
I'm at work and the "live" feed is not working. So, staying on step is important to me.   Yes ME!! I NEED MY BONNEVILLE FIX!!! Thanks guys for posting the runs.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Oh and the pictures too!!!!

Plmkrze,

Don't know if this will help you or not but I have been having problems with my server timing out. So I just hit my refresh button and if that does not work, I disconnect and reconnect to my internet provider and the feed come right back on. Also this is the right link,
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html

Hope this helps,

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 10, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
Ray. Good so far, but the day is early. Looking forward to your updates. Wish I was there. Have a good one.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 02:46:41 PM
That is what I am doing, anyone else want to take over?  911 coming up.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 02:49:09 PM
A few more before I go to the short course starting line.

Papi Chappelle on his Ninja,

The gorgeous Mariani 34 Ford roadster followed by a guy who spotted something falling off the Mariani push truck and went to pick it up.  It turned out to be an ice bag.

Finally, an interesting creation, an M151A1 Jeep, converted to a 6x6 with a Chevy Ecotec motor and TH350 trans.  For those who might have had anything to do with the 151s...well, my fondest memory of 'em is jumping out of one just before it went on its head.  Their swing-axle design was far worse than any Corvair Ralph Nader coulda killed.




Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 02:52:13 PM
911 roadster runs 2 1/4-245, 3- 256, 4- 276, 5-236.  non qualifier.  They needed a 288+ to qualify. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
RMR vehicle 916 Thundersalt was a non start.  Celia notified me that it could have been to rich to start. :-P
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 10, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
No matter which link i try all that comes up is a blue square
downloaded firefox and it works. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:09:28 PM
Barnyard Bear cat runs 2 1/4-209, 3-218, 4-240, 5-254, ext. 258.  Non qualifier, record is 298, they own it.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:10:44 PM
car 570 Bud Free.  Haha great name!  Turn out.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 10, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
No matter which link i try all that comes up is a blue square

I am on firefox and it works fine. Do you have that?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:13:32 PM
DBGMR, Row Yale contrivant special?  didnt hear the car number.  2 1/4-253, 3-211.  Record is in the 280's, I think it was his record.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 10, 2013, 03:15:44 PM
No matter which link i try all that comes up is a blue square

I am on firefox and it works fine. Do you have that?

  Thats what i had to load,then it came up that i needed to install adobe flash player, did that and now works.

             JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Peter Jack on August 10, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
No matter which link i try all that comes up is a blue square

If you're using Internet Explorer, it can be a problem. You can install Firefox or Google Chrome without affecting IE and usually they'll work better for this type of thing.

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
7272 carter family flyer.  2 1/4-214, 3-193, 4-131.  possible tune up run again.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 10, 2013, 03:20:04 PM
I'm running IE10 on Win7 and wireless on IE11 on Win8.1 with no problems.  You do need Adobe Flash installed.

Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 10, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
it did not work to good on my internet explorer but when I went to firefox it worked good.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:25:11 PM
 Blanchard car 151 looking for a record of 334, 2 1/4-242, 3-232.  chute out.  tune up run?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 10, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
Does anyone know when the TURBINATOR or the TRENT streamliners are going to run.
also can we get some pictures.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
For those that are listening to the live broad cast my post must me very redundant.  For those that cannont hear the broad cast I hope some of these post help eleviate your stress of not being there. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:34:10 PM
Scott Guthrie racing.  200mph in search of 204.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 10, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Does anyone know when the TURBINATOR or the TRENT streamliners are going to run.
also can we get some pictures.

Marlo Treit's Liner did not make the trip to Speedweek, but will be run at the World of Speed meet put on next month by the USFRA.

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 10, 2013, 03:41:11 PM
For those that are listening to the live broad cast my post must me very redundant.  For those that cannont hear the broad cast I hope some of these post help eleviate your stress of not being there. :cheers:

Very much appreciated
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
7796 Danny Boy 2,  2 1/4-183, 3-180 chute out.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dave Haller on August 10, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
Can't find the pre-entry list anymore, anyone know if #93 AA/FMR is entered?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:06:03 PM
volk roadster went thru the 2 at 180+ and slowed down. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
5656 Jerry strode in a Thunderbird, usually goes around 250-260.  Cook record at 291.  Spun just passed the 2 at 168.  all is ok execpt for the timing lite at the 2. :evil:  Course should be down for a while.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
Can't find the pre-entry list anymore, anyone know if #93 AA/FMR is entered?

It's shown in the program...I bleeve that indicates it's entered.  What color is it?  I'll look for it in the pits & staging lanes.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 10, 2013, 04:14:05 PM
Can't find the pre-entry list anymore, anyone know if #93 AA/FMR is entered?

.pdf towards the bottom (#186), .xls at the bottom (#194)

Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 10, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
Can't find the pre-entry list anymore, anyone know if #93 AA/FMR is entered?

Dave,

It is pre entered. Here is a link to the pre entered entries.

http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/SPEEDWEEK%202013%20PRE%20ENTRIES.pdf

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 10, 2013, 04:21:08 PM
5656 Jerry strode in a Thunderbird, usually goes around 250-260.  Cook record at 291.  Spun just passed the 2 at 168.  all is ok execpt for the timing lite at the 2. :evil:  Course should be down for a while.

   :-D :roll:

           JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:27:06 PM
car 404 elmo rodge course 2.  3-120mph.  They said it so quick I wasnt ready.  possible tuning pass.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 10, 2013, 04:29:03 PM
Here is another pre entry link to DallasV excel page.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12441.0;attach=41306

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:29:45 PM
bean bandits 182 in the 3.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:46:51 PM
car 531 CSTR Douglas Kinney entry, 2 1/4-167, 3-167, 4-168.  Didn't get a 5th mile.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
Russ Dean with an SRT.  2 1/4-155, 3-175, 4-213, 5-227.  ext 231  needed 236 to qualify
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 10, 2013, 04:52:44 PM
I'm at work and the "live" feed is not working. So, staying on step is important to me.   Yes ME!! I NEED MY BONNEVILLE FIX!!! Thanks guys for posting the runs.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Oh and the pictures too!!!!

It seems like Internet Explorer doesnt like the live feed. Try Firefox, Chrome, Safari... All work great for everyone who have used those browsers.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 04:56:18 PM
car 6969 Baracuda AABCGC.  2 1/4-185, 3-192, 4-208, didn't get a 5 mile time.  The record is 249 and they said he was going after his AA liscense which is 250.  This car is very nice and capable of much more.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: javajoe79 on August 10, 2013, 04:57:31 PM
JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

What is interesting about this whole debate is that the only car that has gone as fast in the first mile was the Leggit/Lindsay firebird that had skinny tires on it, but had twice the HP.   :cheers:

 That is interesting for sure. Makes me think that maybe course condition makes more difference then anything else. The simple fact that 2x the power out accelerated wide tires on skinny tires says alot.... but at the same time you guys consistently accelerate fast but have a number of high speed spins under your belt. Seems like a car like yours would be a great test bed for comparing wide vs skinny on the same course under the same conditions but then one could argue car setup needs to change to work with the tires too..... :? :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
Been away for a bit not sure what I missed. :?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dave Haller on August 10, 2013, 05:21:56 PM
Thanks folks. Its my old roadster, sold it to Burl Brown out of Texas, great guy, great team. I am hoping all the best for them. I have talked with my friends and crew, we are in the beginning stages of building another roadster for the salt and Elmo. Just can't seem to be able to give up the salt or the many friends I have made over the years out there. I will update later, got some pretty good plans.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 05:22:05 PM
Ed Van Scoy corvette car 128, 2 1/4-196, chute out before the 3.  Looks like a tuning pass.  Record is 236.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 05:24:31 PM
151 Blanchard and Blassic?  Lakester 2 1/4 234, 3-243.  another tuning test it looks like.  Now reporting that something went wrong.  Possible tranny.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dave Haller on August 10, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
The car is blue with flames on the nose. If you see them give them my best and thank you.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 10, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
Until I figured out to switch to Firefox from explorer you updates were all I had.

Thanks,

BR


For those that are listening to the live broad cast my post must me very redundant.  For those that cannont hear the broad cast I hope some of these post help eleviate your stress of not being there. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 10, 2013, 05:33:55 PM
lavojoe...we have been scolded for having banter that relates current racing results with different conditions/configurations...

be careful...even with a smiley face...some are abit uptight...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
lavojoe...we have been scolded for having banter that relates current racing results with different conditions/configurations...

be careful...even with a smiley face...some are abit uptight...

so true :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 05:44:06 PM
car 803 Van Harpen(?) only going to the 4.  2 1/4-194, 3-201, 4-215.  record is 216.  Next pass they could make it to impound if they go another mile. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 10, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
JL...just think how fast it might have gone on skinny tires...

What is interesting about this whole debate is that the only car that has gone as fast in the first mile was the Leggit/Lindsay firebird that had skinny tires on it, but had twice the HP.   :cheers:

 That is interesting for sure. Makes me think that maybe course condition makes more difference then anything else. The simple fact that 2x the power out accelerated wide tires on skinny tires says alot.... but at the same time you guys consistently accelerate fast but have a number of high speed spins under your belt. Seems like a car like yours would be a great test bed for comparing wide vs skinny on the same course under the same conditions but then one could argue car setup needs to change to work with the tires too..... :? :cheers:

  Don't think they have twice the power but do know they had a bunch more weight.

  Lots of cars similar to ours, the Stroud car is similar but with more engine setback and the blow fish with more setback and streamlining. Both cars have spin problems also.

      JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 05:56:13 PM
Car 385 2 1/4-183, 3-188, 4-202, 5-194
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
Vehicle #506 AABFL 2 1/2 233, 3-245, 4-272, Chute out.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 06:16:01 PM
wind is up around 17-20mph and its getting late, waiting on drivers to get into vehicles.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 10, 2013, 06:17:43 PM
Vehicle #506 2 1/2 233, 3-245, 4-272, Chute out.

 Thats the Strasburg -Wolf and ? lakester going after Freddy's 329 record.

  Saw the Strasburgs at a recent NHRA meet run right up there with the best of them in their Top Fuel car :-o

  Probably just feeling the car out, went to far and easy for a tune up run.

              JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 10, 2013, 06:24:05 PM
done for the day, I could use updates tomorrow I wont be here to do it. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: stay`tee on August 10, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
here on the east coast of Australia, ya coming thru loud and clear on chrome, :cheers:,,
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Harold Bettes on August 10, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
Hey Guys,

Couldn't come this year and was really bummed out and sitting here writing some stuff for a Client and having the streaming audio was a real nice deal for me. Surely many others feel the same way but wanted to say thanks to all who put the gig together. :-D

Thanks to Slim and Nancy as well. :cheers:

Regards to All,
HB2 :-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 10, 2013, 07:52:15 PM
Having a blast here on the salt for the first time. Met Buddy, Trent, Johnny Hotnuts, The Montana Dodge Bi ys and several others yesterday.  Hope to meet Slim, Nancy and more tomorrow.  This is awesome. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 08:11:46 PM
I was offline for a lot of the afternoon, so I got some catchin up to do.  Here are some shots from the short course starting line:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 08:15:45 PM
And a few more.  Then I'll edit some from various other locations, including one of a "park ranger" bust and another of a "Tucker Torpedo."


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 08:42:16 PM
A park ranger making a bust.  I can only guess that the ATV wasn't licensed.  I stopped into the Subway to get a sandwich for dinner and there was a female ranger there.  I wanted to stop her and ask what they had against racers, but the bulletproof vest and the pistol in her holster (not to mention the unpleasant look on her face) dissuaded me from saying anything...I figgered that she out gunned me and I didn't think my press vest would match up to her vest.  :)

Three different takes on a roadster pickup.


And a "Tucker Torpedo."  Well, it looks like one.  It's a fiberglass replica with NOS chrome parts (or so I was told.)  I don't care for airbrushed rust...like at the lower corners of the doors...but that's just my opinion.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 08:53:03 PM
From impound, without comment, cuz there wasn't anybody around most of the bikes/cars to pester for info.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 08:59:52 PM
More of the same. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 10, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
Thanks Ray,

The pictures are great.

BR
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
Thanks, Bill.  Here are a coupla Model A-engined critters in impound.  One of 'em is a sidewinder SOHC motor, the other a longitudinal-oriented DOHC motor.  Neither one  sounded anything like the Model A I own.  Some ossum engineering there.


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 10, 2013, 09:59:13 PM
Last one before crash and burn in the bed.

The Old Crow lakester team was discussing fuel mixture issues.

A couple of shots of Jeff Brock's iconic Buick.

And finally the Flat Cad 37 Chevy coupe with a huge aero device in the back. 

More tomorrow.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Cyclone on August 10, 2013, 10:15:48 PM
Awesome shots RayThe Rat. Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 10, 2013, 10:50:22 PM
Ray,

Thanks for all you do for us in internet land. Your pictures are great. I will look you up on Monday.

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racer on August 11, 2013, 01:09:25 AM
THANKS......
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: basher13 on August 11, 2013, 02:02:32 AM
Lightning out towards the floating mountain and clear skies at the bend, can't get any better. The HAMB BBQ was a blast with a lot of great prizes in the raffle, thanks Trent.

Lots of folks in impound already, be good to see record runs tomorrow. Wind is still kickin with a couple easy-ups and tents being put to the test. At least it's a tail wind.
If yer not here, you should be

 :cheers:
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 11, 2013, 06:03:24 AM
....sitting here in Melbourne , It's 9pm, that means it's 5am in Wendover......GET UP YOU BASTARDS :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Do something, tell us about it...... I had all sorts of rational reasons for not going this year, none are stacking up right now :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 11, 2013, 06:14:12 AM
Yep     just waiting to hear the returns before bed
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
....sitting here in Melbourne , It's 9pm, that means it's 5am in Wendover......GET UP YOU BASTARDS :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Do something, tell us about it...... I had all sorts of rational reasons for not going this year, none are stacking up right now :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


I'm up, but my legitimacy excludes me from the "bastard" class.  Too bad it doesn't mean diddly sh*t.  :)

Youse guys has still got a coupla hours before return runs is over.  (Imagine that spoken in my grandfather's Pittsburgh "Devil's Triangle" [now known as the "Golden Triangle http://www.lookandlearn.com/history-images/XC1997009882/Slums-Pittsburgh-Pennsylvania?img=1&search=slums%2C+Pittsburgh] dialect.)

Here are the last 4 shots from impound yesterday evening:

The Retarded Sparks Special, running a Caddy flatty on a 141 record.  Looks like it's been "rode hard and put away wet" a coupla times too many, but it seems to go pretty well.  I'll have to see if I can get a shot of the motor later.

A 170 inch slant-six powered Barracuda after qualifying on a 100 (and change) record currently held by Clayton Ebert (who drives with hand controls, since he's normally in a wheelchair.)

The #1936 AA/GRMR "Bonneville Bob."

And the H/BFRMR belonging to Roger Cook and running a 1440 cc Suzuki motor.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 11, 2013, 07:56:57 AM
Good morning Ray, where ever you may be this early. Hope you got some much needed rest and thanks for your excellent reporting, Mark.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 11, 2013, 07:58:26 AM
OOPS, you beat me to it.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 08:18:08 AM
At the risk of gettin back into the dogfight about fat vs skinny tires, I'm gonna post some photos of the Vinson/Allison Corvette.  They made 2 licensing runs in the 170 range and the team mentioned that it ran straight as an arrow.  Admittedly, they weren't pushing real hard, but even though the car handled well, they switched to "skinnies" so that Rob Freyvogel can open it up for a record attempt.

They didn't change tires because of handling problems or instability, but because of a tire rub on the wheel arch, seen in the 3rd photo.  Rather than risk tire damage and any issues as a result, they swapped 'em out.  They may do some modifications and run the fat tires later, but at this time, they're gonna go with what worked last year.

Last photo is a an MG Midget from Milwaukee...the name otta be familiar to most folks.  They'd just gotten their pit set up when I shot the photo; I assume they'll try to get some runs in today.

Time for me to head out for record returns.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 11, 2013, 08:52:04 AM
thanks for the tire report...:)...

in spite of feelings about old discussions..its pertinent to the situation at hand and may facilitate future forays

how about the solid tires (non-pneumatic) Poteet and Main said to trial this week....?...i know that subject has history here...

nonetheless its all interesting fodder at it relates to SW 2013 and seeking to go faster...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 11, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
BAck at it -- setting up for Salt Talks this afternoon.  But first -- George Poteet was making his return run and the car dropped parts about the 1 1/2 - so it was a turnout.  sorry, folks.  Tune in again later for their next attempt.  Other than that, though, most everyone I heard making the return run backed it up -- lots of them in spectacular measure - 10 and 20% above the record speed.  Corngratulations to them, and good luck to today's attempts.

I've got the bike nearly ready to go -- have to make a couple of bodywork brackets before I can get to tech -- but the picnic this afternoon will keep me busy 'til then.

Later -
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: noboD on August 11, 2013, 09:44:15 AM
Thanks for all the pics and chatter. Makes sitting at home more bearable. Hope everyone goes home fast and safe!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: theazoldcrow on August 11, 2013, 09:53:37 AM
 :-D
I'm a happy little Indian !  Couldn't make the trip to the Salt this year, but, the audio stream, R the R's pics, Yours Slim and bangshift.com is keeping me satisfied,,,, will be there next year,,, FO SHO !  thank You all, for a job being well done !!!!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 11, 2013, 10:16:21 AM
Yesterdays runs are posted.
 http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/Aug_10/DailyDown10.html  (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/Aug_10/DailyDown10.html)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 10:27:53 AM
A bike went down at the 1 3/4 on the short course.  No word on the rider, but everybody's back in position and the course has re-opened.  I'll have to do some checking on who it was...but it doesn't seem to be extremely serious...well, gettin off a bike at what must have been a pretty good clip is serious...

Before I post any photos, I'll mention that George Poteet had the canopy pop open at about the 1 mile.  Yet another return run down the drain.

There's also been a few harsh words between photographers and people WAY too close to the cars as they launch...I'll post photos of that in a bit.  Day 2 is barely started and tempers are already flaring.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bsracer on August 11, 2013, 10:30:39 AM
I had just tuned in on the live timing and heard him go down. It was a friend of mine Ralph Hudson on #3535. Keep us posted. THANX!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 10:38:52 AM
I had just tuned in on the live timing and heard him go down. It was a friend of mine Ralph Hudson on #3535. Keep us posted. THANX!

Thank you.  Yeah, that's the name/number I heard.  No word on the outcome yet, but I may run back to the pits to see what I can find out.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 11, 2013, 10:53:55 AM
thanks for the tire report...:)...

in spite of feelings about old discussions..its pertinent to the situation at hand and may facilitate future forays

how about the solid tires (non-pneumatic) Poteet and Main said to trial this week....?...i know that subject has history here...

nonetheless its all interesting fodder at it relates to SW 2013 and seeking to go faster...

  Right on Joe :cheers:

  Post #46 shows how little tire clearance there was. Looks like the spoiler was doing its job.

  We like to run a soft setup and the 222 squats 1/12'' or more on acceleration. working on more :-D

    JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
The first 3 photos here are of the mess as Poteet was preparing to/leaving the start line.

First photo shows a buncha green vests and a coupla non-credentialed photogs.  I'll cop to telling 'em that unless they had vests, they weren't allowed to be there. 

Second photo shows where they went.  The woman kneeling down told me that it was ok because she "knew the driver."  Sheesh!

Third photo:  One guy about 10-15 feet from the car on one side and a woman about the same distance on the other.  The guy was a real jerk when I suggested that he needed to be back at a 45 degree angle from the line.  After that I went to Jim Jensen and mentioned how close the guy had been.  He didn't believe me until I showed him the photo on the LCD screen on my camera.  I also mentioned it to Ron Joliffe and both of 'em said that they were doing the best they could.  Seems to me that they might get one of the course rovers to serve as a safety official at the starting line. H*ll, I'm sposedta be retired.  I may just go park somewhere and watch and listen to the radio.  End of rant.

Final photo shows the Harris Family roadster from Kiwi-land kickin up some salt as it leaves the line.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: BudJ63 on August 11, 2013, 11:02:06 AM
Thank you Ray for the excellent photos and commentary. They are well appreciated. Thanks to Slim for providing this forum for updates for those of us that could not make the trip to the salt this year.  Donation to Landracing.com is on its way.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 11, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
  Starting line looks real wet and loose.

 Is that yesterdays course in background and a new course already?

         JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Old Scrambler on August 11, 2013, 11:35:01 AM
Ray...............the Kiwi pic is FANTASTIC :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: javajoe79 on August 11, 2013, 11:42:17 AM


There's also been a few harsh words between photographers and people WAY too close to the cars as they launch...I'll post photos of that in a bit.  Day 2 is barely started and tempers are already flaring.

 That sucks.. Is it other photographers too close or spectators in general? edit.....   just saw your follow up post...  That looks out of hand. Who can/will do something about that?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: peglegcraig on August 11, 2013, 12:23:27 PM
Any word on Ralph Hudson? Not the way to start the day, fingers are crossed he's OK.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 11, 2013, 12:55:08 PM
thanks for the tire report...:)...

in spite of feelings about old discussions..its pertinent to the situation at hand and may facilitate future forays

how about the solid tires (non-pneumatic) Poteet and Main said to trial this week....?...i know that subject has history here...

nonetheless its all interesting fodder at it relates to SW 2013 and seeking to go faster...

Joe,

I don't have a problem with tire talk concerning this speed week and vehicles running there. That is what this topic is about.

John's tires work good for him and I am happy for him and Troy, but that does not mean they are the only tire to use, and that is how I read what John says. There could be volumes written on this subject, my point is to not rehash what has already been posted on this website about tires, under this thread. That is all.

Food for thought, the wide landspeed eagles are only rated to 300 mph according to Goodyears website. So anyone who is looking at faster speeds will have no choice but to go with skinny tires.

I am leaving for Bonneville, so this is my last post until I get back.

Tom G.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 11, 2013, 01:01:06 PM
I know John doesn't feel that they have the corner market on the best way to go fast at all...he like I know whatever works for u is just ducky..

there us a fair amt of ribbing in these posts..

we are both probably alittle intense as our energies are being poured into our endevours, but not this week leaves too much energy that has to go
somewhere...apologies...my wife cant shoulder all of it..:)..

Jon Amo and Stainless were in line next to Ralph Hudson, and sent me pics...I noticed Ralph had the Goodyear lsr car tire on front like
i switched to after scta mandated it for runs over 265 on bike....

I know Ralph ran the lsr goodyear on rear at El Mirage...not sure if he ever ran the much flatter profile on front before...also no idea
what transpired or how he is doing...

any help appreciated....

Tom G. counting on you to bring more detail oriented info from the scene ..:)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 11, 2013, 01:05:46 PM
For those new to the thread, dont forget to listen to Speed Week Live! http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/LiveStream.html
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 11, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
 DeSotoman...the tire cop who wants US to stop talking but he can't.

  Yea Joe I don't think everyone should use wide tires Bvilleracer and I just stick up for them.

  If we could have a wing or a longer spoiler or both I might try skinnys [maybe] :-D

  Tom...before shootin your mouth off about wide tires only being rated to 300 mph. you shold have checked

 closer on the specs of Goodyear Eagle Land Speed Tires.  NONE are rated over 300.

  Tom the expert :roll:

            JL222 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: basher13 on August 11, 2013, 01:57:20 PM
911 roadster just ran 295 an change on a 288ish record! Not only does it sound good, I could feel it as he went flyin byyyyyyyy! Man he was movin!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Wade_Owens on August 11, 2013, 02:13:13 PM
Ray, please don't stop posting pics and reporting. You'll leave a needle in a vein that wont be refilled. Thanks so much for taking your time to post and reply.

To all other posters, thanks for the info, us newbies need the info to fuel our fires. We have 2 cars in the works right now and I cant believe how bad it is to have to just sit and listen and not be a part of it.

Thanks to all of the volunteers and the announcers, we are listening and appreciate it all.

And to the photogs out there, could someone get some pics of the 9913? Thanks!!

Wade




Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 11, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
Does anyone know when the turbinator is going to run. Any chance of a picture or two.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 02:22:27 PM
Well, the tire subject didn't go over so weel, so how about some race cars?

A little different angle of Dan Aleshire's roadster.

A couple of what Jonny Hotnuts has been trying to convince people is a Fiat X1-9  :)

And the #919 Honda 600-powered liner.

A quick update of all I know about Ralph Hudson:  He was transferred from one ambulance to another at Land's End; he was conscious and communicative.  I can only assume that he was taken to a hospital in Salt Lake City.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
Does anyone know when the turbinator is going to run. Any chance of a picture or two.


I talked to Glen Barrett a while ago.  He tells me that they just got here today and that they're gonna put some stuff together and do tech tomorrow. 

The photos sure ain't the best I ever shot, but with the light (and not wanting to bother folks with a flash) they're what they are:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
Ray, please don't stop posting pics and reporting. You'll leave a needle in a vein that wont be refilled. Thanks so much for taking your time to post and reply.

To all other posters, thanks for the info, us newbies need the info to fuel our fires. We have 2 cars in the works right now and I cant believe how bad it is to have to just sit and listen and not be a part of it.

Thanks to all of the volunteers and the announcers, we are listening and appreciate it all.

And to the photogs out there, could someone get some pics of the 9913? Thanks!!

Wade

What is the 9913?  Class & color?

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jlmccuan on August 11, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
Is there a way to send a note to the stream announcers?  Perhaps an email or ideally a cell to text to?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 11, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
Thanks for the info and pictures ray.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
Some days things go from bad to worse.  After the hatch popping open on the record return, the Poteet & Main Speed Demon team brought the car back to the line.  I'm pretty sure they knew they'd have to re-qualify and try for a return run tomorrow. 

Then they had this little fire problem.  I talked to the crew members who told me they didn't know the cause, but to me it looks like something in the turbo area...'course they have the transmission and driveline out of the car, too.

And when ya see Ron Main working (that's his back in the third photo, spraying water to clean up the front of the belly pan) ya know it's a thrash to get it fixed.  :)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Wade_Owens on August 11, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
Ray, the 9913 is a super, swoopy Studebaker built by Johnson's Hot Rod Shop. Red in color and listed as running C/GCC. Made a turn out run yesterday.

Wade
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 03:53:20 PM
Ray, the 9913 is a super, swoopy Studebaker built by Johnson's Hot Rod Shop. Red in color and listed as running C/GCC. Made a turn out run yesterday.

Wade

Ok.  I'll keep my eyes open.

Waitaminit.  Izzat Bob Johnson who wadded up his Caddy a coupla years ago?


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bsracer on August 11, 2013, 04:02:27 PM
Got a mssg from someone with Ralph Hudson. He's being treated for a big cut on his elbow, no broken bones.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Old Scrambler on August 11, 2013, 04:09:03 PM
Not too bad for getting off at over 100 mph............thanks for the news
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 11, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
Only 41 racefans watching the thread. Thought there would be more.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 04:38:57 PM
Got a mssg from someone with Ralph Hudson. He's being treated for a big cut on his elbow, no broken bones.

Thanks for the update on Ralph.  That's great news in light of what it could have been.

As far as the number of people on here...well, not much has been happening and I seem to be the only photog shootin stuff.  Right now we've got a cross wind that's keepin a lotta bikes and other wind-sensitive vehicles from running.  I'm at about the 2 1/2 near Impound and I estimate the wind to be around 20 mph, gusting a little higher from time to time.
 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Wade_Owens on August 11, 2013, 04:41:08 PM
Not sure about that, Ray. I found pictures online of it being built. Very cool car....

Wade
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 11, 2013, 04:43:57 PM
Thanks for all the pics Ray and updates from all

good news that Ralph is not too badly hurt

Lost the streaming now , no idea if its me or the website ,

  
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 05:04:22 PM
Just as nothin was happnin' Tegan Hammond just had a big spin at the 2.  She came fairly close to the access road and might have driven thru the Red Flame for a burger.  I wasn't following her with the camera, so when I got it, I just got shots of her gettin outta the car.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 11, 2013, 05:46:17 PM
Glad to hear Ralph is going to be ok, he is a very accomplished motorcycle racer and I am sure he will get his bike fixed and be back quickly!


Ray,

Thank you for the pictures and updates  :cheers:

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 11, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
Glad to hear that Ralph Hudson is mostly OK.

Thanks for all pics and reporting.

Dean
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Bobby c on August 11, 2013, 06:43:38 PM
Thank you so much to Ray, Slim and all the others for the pics and updates!!!!! You all rule!!!!!!
 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: salt varmint on August 11, 2013, 06:55:46 PM
any sightings or word on Hooleys orange Studebaker ???  #974    AA/BGCC
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: DEEPNHOCK on August 11, 2013, 07:30:10 PM
Audio feed is nice :lol:....but...

I wish the announcers would say the make of car when it makes a run..
I know they try, but it is spotty.
Since the audience is not familiar with the names or car numbers, it would help.
Also, the SCTA results sheet need to have the car brand name too.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dave Haller on August 11, 2013, 07:37:03 PM
A big thank you for the live feed and posts out here. Great being able to hear it but can't compare to being there running a car. I'll be back.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 07:41:38 PM
Here's an update to the Tegan Hammond spin.  I shot this photo as they were loading the car onto the trailer...and she's right in there doin her part.  According to Bret Kepner, the first thing she said to the course worker who got there was, "does this qualify me for a Spin Pin?"  I guess she's a real racer for sure.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 07:46:59 PM
Thank you so much to Ray, Slim and all the others for the pics and updates!!!!! You all rule!!!!!!
 :cheers:

Thank you all.  I'm gonna make a blatant plea for donations direct to my primary website: http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html) since I seem to be the only one posting ANYTHING from the salt.  I'll be back in the morning and we'll find out what's happened to whom and who does what.  I've gotta show up at Salt Talks for a while, but I'll post photos from impound and a coupla speed shots later this evening.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: noboD on August 11, 2013, 08:14:55 PM
Audio feed is nice :lol:....but...

I wish the announcers would say the make of car when it makes a run..
I know they try, but it is spotty.
Since the audience is not familiar with the names or car numbers, it would help.
Also, the SCTA results sheet need to have the car brand name too.

What I've done when the feed works is minimise the live feed page, then open the pre entry page from SCTA so I can floow by car numebr. STill doesn't cover all the info that would help us that don't know much. When the feed works I sure do enjoy it. Thanks to all connected with putting the event on and posting here.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SaltPeter on August 11, 2013, 09:26:56 PM
Thanks so much for the coverage and Pics, I have found the Live Audio comes and goes but it could be my end.

Good to hear Ralph Hudson is ok.


Pete :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: basher13 on August 11, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
Ya I need money also, I've posted a couple times, that should count for something! :-D

Get some sleep Ray, I'll come find you tomorrow and give you a snickers!
 :cheers:
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 09:44:01 PM
Hey Joe A:  This one's for you.  :)

The only speed shots I got all day...the Vesco 444 and the Dauernheim-Biglow-Davis lakester.

Then a coupla shots of the #6501 Corvette that supports the Wounded Warrior project.  Good stuff!

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 11, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
Audio feed is nice :lol:....but...

I wish the announcers would say the make of car when it makes a run..
I know they try, but it is spotty.
Since the audience is not familiar with the names or car numbers, it would help.
Also, the SCTA results sheet need to have the car brand name too.


Ive passed this along. Thank you for the feedback :)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 11, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
Ray yer the man...!!!

audio is great to have...no...tremendous to have..priceless really, and beggars cant
be choosy...but...Ron C. is iconic...the other gentleman is trying..but not in the same zip
code with respect to covering land speed racing...too much emphasis on "color commentary" since
his knowledge base with lsr is blatantly lacking...it interferes with the flow of the coverage and who actually just ran and what they did.....im hopeful over time that will change...THANKFULLY
powers that be have Ron C. there with him...

I thank SCTA Ron C. and the other fine gentleman for putting in the effort...

thank goodness for Landracing and the tidbits of tech coverage Ray and ....well Ray mostly are providing...!!

Joe



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 10:11:17 PM
Here are a coupla shots of a very interesting car (to me, anyway).  It's an Ardun, built by Zora Arkus-Duntov and Sydney Allard either just before or just after WWII.  It has a ton of British parts in it and an Ardun-head flatty.  There's a lot more info on it, but I'll have to work on the images of the info sheets...I'll put 'em on my Chevy Asylum site when I get back home.

Then there are a coupla photos of the Strasburg-Hiltunen lakester.  I don't know how they've done, but I was told that they're happy with the results so far.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 11, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
Robby Cohn had a little "issue" when he had a flat spin...he found that a Monza's rear hatch doesn't quite work like NASCAR flaps...matter of fact, when the hatch gets lifted by the air whilst going backwards at speed, it seems to fold itself over and breaks the windshield.  Not a good thing and Robby was kinda vocal about the whole deal.  But they're gonna try to get all the bits back together and run it again the end of the meet.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Brickster on August 11, 2013, 10:46:08 PM
From where I was watching at about the 2 mile mark the Hammond spin looked almost horrific. That car was headed for the pit area and appeared to be sideways on the return road. The thoughts of what would happen if a car went into the pits raced through my head.

Brick
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 11, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
any sightings or word on Hooleys orange Studebaker ???  #974    AA/BGCC

Just saw Hooley at the Red Garter! The "beast" is here!  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 11, 2013, 11:42:15 PM
Robby Cohn had a little "issue" when he had a flat spin...he found that a Monza's rear hatch doesn't quite work like NASCAR flaps...matter of fact, when the hatch gets lifted by the air whilst going backwards at speed, it seems to fold itself over and breaks the windshield.  Not a good thing and Robby was kinda vocal about the whole deal.  But they're gonna try to get all the bits back together and run it again the end of the meet.



Robbie called me today and said the course was slippery and numerous cars had spun, I hope that the course will get better and drier for tomorrow's runs.

Robbie, glad to hear you are OK and that you get the parts needed tomorrow to fix one of the highest record setting race cars on the lakes venues!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 11, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
In regards to the SCTA web site live audio broadcast I have coupe of comments, one Ron who has been doing the radio announcing does an excellent job for many years and knows our race cars and drivers, but the new guy Harold just does not have that background and says some to the silliest things on the air about BLM and other things, today I heard him say that on Wed. night the Bonneville 200 MPH club is having a banquet and all racers and spectators are welcome, just go to the Bonneville 200 MPH club booth and buy the tickets for $35 each, well if that true its news to me, I'm a member of the 200 MPH club and in the past if you wanted to attend the banquet a 200 MPH member would have to sponsor you and buy the tickets for you to attend and the banquet has limited setting too, so this news to me check out before Wed. Night , thanks for your time, Dave  :cheers:  PS, can we get Glen back to do the announcing!!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 12, 2013, 12:09:04 AM
.................^..................Like...we want Glen!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JonAmo on August 12, 2013, 02:22:38 AM
All, it has been a so so event so far.

First off Sat and Sun have been very windy. Tons of complaints about the course #1 being slippery and combined with wind you will have the spins and turnouts. I think I heard 8-10 spins there, that is pretty bad for Saturday for the first day of racing on the course. However, Poteet and Main went 443 exit, now analyze that.
Our personal experience is up to the 3 course was pretty shady, after that smoothed out.

Turbinator is there but needs several little things to finish before tech. Vesco has his hands full running the 444 car and now working on the turbinator at same time. Very busy area.

Skip Hedrick not having the Speedweek he hoped for. Turned away from Tech due to roll cage. The story is and please take with grain of salt. Roll cage did not pass due to tube diameter, although had excess of supporting structure. The only question I have is how did it get past tech the last 10 years? Chrome molly, tig welded, supported like heck with "more than is required structure"

Ralph Hudson was next to us when we left the line and mile 3/4 went down, I heard we was cracking jokes in hospital, going to be ok.

Tegan Hammond spin was definitley a "Viewing area scatter"

We went to course 2 Sunday morning and had a smoother to three course but top end was a bit rough. We managed a 240 exit on a good shakedown pass. 244 is in sight for qualifications.

Runs seem sparingly Sat and Sun mainly due to course conditions, wind, spings, broken parts, accidents and the four courses might just make the event more effiecient. Lines are short. Tonight I do not beleive there were any high speed runs in impound. Kinda validates the above comments.

Plenty of interesting stories out there just have to ask for them.

I hate to say this but everybody tries their best at everything they do, but this announcer is just terrible. Come one, come all, 200 mph club banquet open to anybody. "Just find the guys in the red hats" and you can talk with them. Give this guy a cheat sheet or something, I just don't get it.

Ray is doing a phenomenal job with pictures, but not a one man show, need a dedicated guy out there gathering the STORIES that bring the Speedweek feeling to the viewers, bring the smell of the nitro with words, explain the ground thumping nitro 911 car through the computer (a close alternative the the crowd gathering at edge of pits Al Teague runs), the Strasburgs lakester is a fantastic sight.

Ron Cohn crew has new glass in the rear of Monza. (I thought it was the rear that got blown out, I could be wrong but that was my visual on situation)

Rangers are out in force I have seen several people stopped by them.

Can't say enough for Mike the mayor who opened the store at 11 pm last night for a crew members plane that got a flat tire on the runway on landing after giving plane at the end of the day.

What Kieth Turk and Freiberge back on the salt with the Camaro.....
TO my knowledge fast freddy has not make a pass with new  liner (has small motor for sortin), George fields is stagnent so far. Rex's "Sabb Story" was all over the course. Can determine if wind tunnel info plays out till he gets way more speed in it.  

I really don't know to much been stuck in the pits working on the liner.

Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 12, 2013, 04:15:48 AM
thanks Jon, hope the liner goes well for you guys, I wish I was there so bad!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Chris V on August 12, 2013, 08:16:01 AM
Thanks "Ray The Rat"  for all your posting were getting hyped up for up coming BUB event. first time, running a 1972 Yamaha 350 2 stroke for my 75 year old wife Sandy to ride.   Chris Vetter, With team Tracy.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 08:25:50 AM
Yep.  What Jon said!  For those who weren't at the Salt Talks last nite, just about everything he wrote was mentioned by one or more person(s).

The only thing I can add is that Robby Cohn lost both the back glass (blown out) and the windshield (broken when the hatch folded over onto it). 

He's dead nuts on about Skip Hedrich.  Why is the cage/frame now insufficient when it's been just fine for a long time?  It wasn't because of corrosion inside, but diameter, according to what I was told.  There were several more statements made about it, but I'd better leave 'em unreported cuz they were said in anger.

As far as I know, the 2 Club banquet is only for members and guests. 

I also heard that course 1 will be moved (should have been done last nite) but since there weren't too many real high speed qualifiers in impound it shouldn't affect record returns (which I'm not gonna get to, since I'm still in the motel).

Last thing:  Mike Crawford (Wendover mayor and provider of the camping area at the east end of Wendover) should get the "Top Illuminator" award for bringing floodlights to the Salt Talks.

More when I get to the salt.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rlague on August 12, 2013, 08:30:46 AM
Thanks Jon for the update.  Saab is 2 "A" and one B to be picky......how is Tom Donney doing with the Sonett Saab 2 stroke?

Have fun, wish I was there.  Sam Wheeler is not coming this week......He was trying to make it, but won't.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 08:56:32 AM
Record Returns are live right now. I am at my desk all day.  I will try to post what I hear on the broadcast.
572   XXF    GR       FERGUSON RACING    CA
2012 record 187.292
Qualified yesterday at 203.134 and ran 203.650 this morning.

1534   B    STR       HOT ROD HOODLUMS    TX
2012 record 223.623
qualifies yesterday at 226
this morning
1/4 213
3 mile 219.778
4 mile 230.889
5 mile 234.523
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rlague on August 12, 2013, 09:03:10 AM
Is there an updated entry list somewhere on the interweb?  I can't find one one on the SCTA-BNI site is there one posted anywhere?  I can't get the pre-entry list to link up on the SCTA site either.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 12, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
Is there an updated entry list somewhere on the interweb?  I can't find one one on the SCTA-BNI site is there one posted anywhere?  I can't get the pre-entry list to link up on the SCTA site either.  Any ideas?

Look at post #211 by DallasV for his pre-entry spreadsheet.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12441.210.html

Hope this helps,
Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 12, 2013, 09:35:51 AM
Randy, driving the FlatCad, broke a record on his rookie run yesterday and backed it up this morning. 

Hooley and the crew will take the 974 Studebaker to tech today.

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 12, 2013, 09:53:13 AM
Stainless in the Amo Steele Streamliner qualified 246+ mph...its a start..:)...i see a AA license soming up soon..
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 10:26:15 AM
Barnyard Bearcat
record 298.
1/4 242
3 mile 250.625
4 mile 272.344
5 mile 282.515
exit 287
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 10:33:13 AM
Rex Svoboda
record 306
1/4 202
3 mile 208
4 mile 222

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: michael lueders on August 12, 2013, 10:37:39 AM
.................^..................Like...we want Glen!

AMEN!!!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 10:54:48 AM
Yesterdays runs are now up on the SCTA site.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 12, 2013, 10:58:08 AM
Stainless in the Amo Steele Streamliner qualified 246+ mph...its a start..:)...i see a AA license soming up soon..

(http://www.troll.me/images/victory-baby/hell-yea-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 11:05:29 AM
Some photos from the Course 2 staging lanes:

A couple of the Amo/Steele liner and a pair of Time/Only NASCAR-mobiles.  These got me thinking.  Is there an unofficial T/O record or speed ranking somewhere?  It could be amusing to claim "World's Fastest Time Only" run.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Plmkrze on August 12, 2013, 11:18:34 AM
Thanks for posting! I am back at work so you good folks keep me up to date when I'm on breaks or lunch. I listened to the live feed yesterday at home on Chrome. Worked great.


HEY Announcers you have an open mic!  IF folks say something behind you we can hear what is said.  So be careful and not let people behind you carry on conversations about how the BLM is screwed up and these new BLM reps are bureaucratic Acura holes. Ok, they may be Acura hats, but lets just keep that amoungest ourselves. lol

As my dear ole departed dad used to say "Don't discuss the obvious".

Keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 11:19:46 AM
From Impound (last nite)

A really kool '38 or so Buick coupe with a "memorial" type valve cover on the straight-8 motor.

Then a coupla shots of a Kenny Roberts Edition Yamaha 350 with a name inspired by Doc Freud.  Great folks on that team.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 12, 2013, 11:22:29 AM
Thanks Ray for the constant updates. By the way, has Pork Pie been spotted anywhere? Mark.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
Thanks Ray for the constant updates. By the way, has Pork Pie been spotted anywhere? Mark.
Yep, 2nd pic in post 248.  Sportin his Red Hat.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 12, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
Quote
Yep, 2nd pic in post 248.  Sportin his Red Hat.

What Pork Pie is saying: "Get out, I'm driving."
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 11:51:14 AM
Yeah, Mark.  PP's been around the whole meet. 

Here are the last of last nite's Impound photos.

The Bonneville Bobber, an absolutely gorgeous 55 Harley.

One way to keep stuff outta yer radiator while in impound is to tie on a team logo shop apron.  Seems to work pretty well,  :)

Shug Hanchard of the So What Speed Shop had to explain the new American Iron Roadster class to me.  This is his entry...we'll see who comes out of the meet with the new class record.

The clean one-owner XF/PP Black Creek Racing Ford (sponsored by my favorite shop, the A**hole Garage.)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 12, 2013, 11:53:57 AM
Thanks Ray for the constant updates. By the way, has Pork Pie been spotted anywhere? Mark.
Yep, 2nd pic in post 248.  Sportin his Red Hat.

Thanks Doug. Don't know how I missed that. Mark.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 11:55:25 AM
Mr Hotnuts
171.832 in the 4 mile on a 205? record
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 12, 2013, 11:56:23 AM
Thank you to Ray.  8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 12:12:05 PM
Here are some photos of various rods (although I'm not sure you can call a Rambler American a rod) that I've shot (and not posted before):

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
And 4 more:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 12:26:11 PM
Last batch.  Three new ones and a revision of one...I did it in sepia tones cuz it reminded me of what I might have seen in a magazine in the 50s or 60s.

Now I'm gonna go see if I can get some speed shots.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 12, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
  It seems that an exception could be made for Skip Hedrick's roll cage,especially if it has way more roll bars than the 4 point minimum. Chrome moly is stronger than mild steel but trickier to weld and I think thats why mild steel is recommended. A lot of Bville racers do there own roll bars and frames. Consideration in his favor should be made if it was pro built also.
  
  Skip should contack car technical chair Lee Kennedy they do make exceptions.

  It bugs me that Skip can be turned down on roll bars But SCTA/BNI will let a motorcycle with a blown V8 and no roll bars run.

  Skip should get his turned down entry in writing, he has a big investment in his car.

               JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 12:32:54 PM
80   B/BGMS HIZER RACING SPIRITS
record 231.516
mile 3 216.336
mile 4 238.447
mile 5 252.016

I assume this is not the LeSabre? Anybody have a pic of this car?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 12, 2013, 12:40:30 PM
Ray yer the man...!!!

audio is great to have...no...tremendous to have..priceless really, and beggars cant
be choosy...but...Ron C. is iconic...the other gentleman is trying..but not in the same zip
code with respect to covering land speed racing...too much emphasis on "color commentary" since
his knowledge base with lsr is blatantly lacking...it interferes with the flow of the coverage and who actually just ran and what they did.....im hopeful over time that will change...THANKFULLY
powers that be have Ron C. there with him...

I thank SCTA Ron C. and the other fine gentleman for putting in the effort...

thank goodness for Landracing and the tidbits of tech coverage Ray and ....well Ray mostly are providing...!!

Joe


In regards to the SCTA web site live audio broadcast I have coupe of comments, one Ron who has been doing the radio announcing does an excellent job for many years and knows our race cars and drivers, but the new guy Harold just does not have that background and says some to the silliest things on the air about BLM and other things, today I heard him say that on Wed. night the Bonneville 200 MPH club is having a banquet and all racers and spectators are welcome, just go to the Bonneville 200 MPH club booth and buy the tickets for $35 each, well if that true its news to me, I'm a member of the 200 MPH club and in the past if you wanted to attend the banquet a 200 MPH member would have to sponsor you and buy the tickets for you to attend and the banquet has limited setting too, so this news to me check out before Wed. Night , thanks for your time, Dave  :cheers:  PS, can we get Glen back to do the announcing!!!!!

Thanks for posting! I am back at work so you good folks keep me up to date when I'm on breaks or lunch. I listened to the live feed yesterday at home on Chrome. Worked great.


HEY Announcers you have an open mic!  IF folks say something behind you we can hear what is said.  So be careful and not let people behind you carry on conversations about how the BLM is screwed up and these new BLM reps are bureaucratic Acura holes. Ok, they may be Acura hats, but lets just keep that amoungest ourselves. lol

As my dear ole departed dad used to say "Don't discuss the obvious".

Keep up the good work!!


Thank you all for the constructive criticism. It is necessary to become better, and our mission is obviously to please the listeners. We really appreciate it!

:)

 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 12, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
Last batch.  Three new ones and a revision of one...I did it in sepia tones cuz it reminded me of what I might have seen in a magazine in the 50s or 60s.

Now I'm gonna go see if I can get some speed shots.


Hey, Ray--thanks for the updates! Lovin' the photos back East...

Gary
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: coloradodave on August 12, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
Awesome coverage Ray thanks so much, first time in 6 years I've not been able to make it, Dad's in impound as of first runs this morning if your over there taking pictures is #735
1000cc MPBF Black Sportster??
Thanks a bunch :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 01:13:24 PM
7800 A/BFS DALTON, JACKSON & MAYER
record 409.986

1/4 297.760
mile 310.089
chute out
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 12, 2013, 01:14:17 PM
OK, I've kept quiet about the 'non-Glen'.......But, really? "Feel free to drive your car thru the pits and enjoy the race cars". Ahh......Ok.

 I miss the "Take her to impound".

With the 'Rangers' being on the salt generating revenue, will they start saving the salt next year?

Chris
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 12, 2013, 01:16:00 PM
Oh yea, Ray..........Thanks for posting pix.....I have been following "Instagram" with the hashtag Bonneville and I never get tired of your shots. Maybe you need a cattle prod for the starting line next year.

Chris
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: thawley on August 12, 2013, 01:22:05 PM
It seems that an exception could be made for Skip Hedrick's roll cage,especially if it has way more roll bars than the 4 point minimum.

There must be details to this story we haven't heard yet. If the car's been running for years as it sits, I have a hard time believing they'd fail him now for something they've missed every year prior.

Seems more likely they've made changes to the car since it was last teched. But I'm just speculating from home.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Oldanontheway on August 12, 2013, 01:27:45 PM
Maybe you need a cattle prod for the starting line next year.

Chris

+!

old
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: GH on August 12, 2013, 01:53:20 PM
Ray The Rat or anyone else out there. Who is Gary Hart that is racing for time only???
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 12, 2013, 02:01:08 PM
630 AA/CFALT Spencer Racing
record 259.110
1/4 222.2
3 mile 228.451
4 mile 243.98
5 mile 249.040
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
Ray The Rat or anyone else out there. Who is Gary Hart that is racing for time only???


I don't know, other than I posted a photo of his car (8797) earlier.  Gary Miller is listed as co-owner.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: firemanjim on August 12, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Any pics of the othe side of the RZ 350, wondered what the blower looked like.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 02:51:59 PM
Here are some speed shots done a little earlier...I've been runnin back and forth between the camera and the computer and it's takin longer than...well, it's just takin longer.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 03:07:06 PM
A few more speed shots.

While I didn't get a shot of it, Speed Demon has been rebuilt after the fire and made a run attempt...but it shot at ducks for a mile,  then turned out.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 03:15:23 PM
Any pics of the othe side of the RZ 350, wondered what the blower looked like.

Not the best pic of the blower, since I was focused on the tailpipe, but better than noithing
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 12, 2013, 03:16:46 PM
He raced a Studebaker for years at the salt from southern Missouri & a VERY nice guy.

Ray The Rat or anyone else out there. Who is Gary Hart that is racing for time only???

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 12, 2013, 03:22:55 PM
Fast Freddie on a test run, best mph was in the 230's on a short pass.  Seems the rookie announcer doesn't know who Fred is and was quick to report speed.  Didn't get all of the mile info. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 12, 2013, 03:23:25 PM
Ray The Rat or anyone else out there. Who is Gary Hart that is racing for time only???


I wondered too.

Did you see that Randy upped your Buick record?

Norris broke the rearend in his Studebaker truck.

It is tough being here at home during Speedweek.

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 12, 2013, 03:24:49 PM
Hot Rod camaro, 4th mile 217, and slowed down.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: tf737sb on August 12, 2013, 03:46:33 PM
Even on vacation in Guatemala, I can still listen to Freddy- aka "The Lüg"- skate 'er on down at 230+. Technology is pretty sweet.

  :cheers:
-Hunter
J&S East Valley Garage
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
Fast Freddie on a test run, best mph was in the 230's on a short pass.  Seems the rookie announcer doesn't know who Fred is and was quick to report speed.  Didn't get all of the mile info. :cheers:

Good thing I'm not listening to the announcers...I'm on the officials' FM.  Here are some shots of Freddy's run.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 12, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
Here are some speed shots done a little earlier...I've been runnin back and forth between the camera and the computer and it's takin longer than...well, it's just takin longer.



That Studebaker truck (#898) is bitchin'...this whole thing is a conspiracy to make me spend more money on my car...  :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Here are some speed shots done a little earlier...I've been runnin back and forth between the camera and the computer and it's takin longer than...well, it's just takin longer.



That Studebaker truck (#898) is bitchin'...this whole thing is a conspiracy to make me spend more money on my car...  :-D

As I recall, there was a lot of pre-planning before Norris Anderson decided on what truck to build.  He chose that Stude cuz it was slipperier than any other truck in that class...and 622" of Chevy big block doesn't hurt, either.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 12, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
Here are some speed shots done a little earlier...I've been runnin back and forth between the camera and the computer and it's takin longer than...well, it's just takin longer.



That Studebaker truck (#898) is bitchin'...this whole thing is a conspiracy to make me spend more money on my car...  :-D

As I recall, there was a lot of pre-planning before Norris Anderson decided on what truck to build.  He chose that Stude cuz it was slipperier than any other truck in that class...and 622" of Chevy big block doesn't hurt, either.



Yup, that will definitely make a lot of things very aero-friendly...  8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 04:54:24 PM
Speed Demon just ran...apparently with a motor/class change: D/BFS.  He ran thru the 4 with an exit speed of 384.  I dunno if he qualified or not.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 12, 2013, 05:11:38 PM
Speed Demon just ran...apparently with a motor/class change: D/BFS.  He ran thru the 4 with an exit speed of 384.  I dunno if he qualified or not.


D/BFS      Poteet & Main Speed Demon G. Poteet 08/12 422.509

Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 12, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Well, here I sit in the line for inspection - finally.  I fiddled about most of the day yesterday - 'til noon, then had to set up for salt talks.  So this morning I got the final brackets for the bodywork fabbed and installed and mounted everything - and then the cousin and her family showed up.  So when I eventually got the bike a;l buttoned up and down here for inspection -- the first thing the inspector wanted was to have the tail section removed.  Crap - it took me quite a while to get that on there just right.  So -- before I went to the pit to take it off (didn't want to do that in the line -- would waste other people'e time - I made sure he saw and noted the bike with tail section -- so he didn't then ask us to show it WITH the tail.

But then, before I left this line -- he pointed out that the rules require a bike in gas class to have ALL of the nitrous system removed - not just the bottle.  No way in heck am I gonna remove the lines and solenoids and so on -- so what the heck, I'm now in a fuel class.

Ooops -- line is moving.  Later --

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 12, 2013, 06:00:40 PM
Another announcement that the 200mph club dinner was open to the public as long as you buy a ticket.  Has the dinner changed or are they hurting for money? :cheers:  Every time I have gone the banquet room is full. :?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 12, 2013, 06:05:50 PM
Thanks again for all the info  ,between the audio, pics and comments its just great coverage  :cheers:

Only thing i would ask if it is practical and can be passed on is at the audio , can there be a background radio or just racetrack track sound or something, so i know when the coverage has dropped out and can refresh , the occasional paper shuffling and mic bumps now actually helps
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: firemanjim on August 12, 2013, 06:16:44 PM
Hey, Ray, if you get a chance ask that fella what he did for oil to blower as I am building a 2 stroke with turbo too. Or get his contact info. TIA.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 12, 2013, 06:23:49 PM
Has anyone had the stream drop out. The stream has stopped more then once since i started listening this morning. when it go's out i hit refresh and it comes back. i was just wondering if i was the only one it was happening too.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 12, 2013, 06:30:26 PM
Ya, It drops out every so often. But I like to think they are doing the best they can.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 12, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Has anyone had the stream drop out. The stream has stopped more then once since i started listening this morning.

I just hit F5 to refresh. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 12, 2013, 06:51:03 PM
Well looks like thats the end of the stream for today. enjoyed every minute of it. still cannot wait to hear the turbinator II when it runs. wonder what there chances are of going 500mph at this meet.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 12, 2013, 06:55:37 PM
hope the salt drys out some more , bikes seem a bit limited by it and the number of spins must be near a record
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
Hey, Ray, if you get a chance ask that fella what he did for oil to blower as I am building a 2 stroke with turbo too. Or get his contact info. TIA.

If I see him, I'll ask, but there are a hell of a lotta people here.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 12, 2013, 07:59:09 PM
I have had to hit the 'refresh' about every 15 mins. or so..........That never happened when it was "hosted" by this site.......Oh well, working out the bugs & I'm glad to have the 'stream'.

Chris
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Dan on August 12, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
Wow thanks to all of the folks who are making it a little easier on us who for one reason or another were unable to make it this year. The information here is easing the pain.

I have been informed that the three intake manifolds that we are trying to get transported to Georgia or at least to the East of the Mississippi are now sitting in the impound trailer under the protection of Dan Warner and Dan Stokes. I am greatful for Seldom Seen Slims offer but if possible would like to see the manifolds head East after speed week. So if you know anyone who is going to be East bound and might be able to help please have them swing by the impound trailer and see if they have room for them. They are clean and wrapped in plastic wrap and don't take up too much space. Thanks again.
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 12, 2013, 08:28:50 PM

This is information I was called with so I hope it is untrue however if it is I hope they all will be OK!

Johnny Hotnuts crashed and should be OK..spun and then crashed rolled..car is a total..the cage did it's job. :cheers:

The driver of Derek McLeish's car pulled the chute over over 215 mph and the rear of the car lifted and the car went out of control and crashed..driver is fine from what I heard.

With Ralph's bike and Derek's car both going down they are both leading the SCTA points chase at El Mirage.   :-o

Another thing, I believe Derek's and Johnnys cars are Turbo Hayabusa powered :-o and both are also in the Modified sports class?   Derek has a 1000cc (I class) engine also.

Ralph's injuries are a little more serious than reported however he will be back I am sure, just not at this event.  His bike looks to have just slid and did not tumble/come apart when he went down.  He will return and get that record I am certain.

Get well racers!

J
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 12, 2013, 08:47:06 PM
yeah, from the pic I saw Jonny's car is totaled. He sounded OK but is headed to SLC for a check up. Keep it safe out there folks. :wink:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 12, 2013, 08:51:30 PM
Yeah I just saw his facebook pictures...holy heLL..glad he is OK :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 1leg on August 12, 2013, 09:24:58 PM
I'm here and didn't even know someone crashed, To much bench racing i guess. glad to here they are ok.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 09:36:43 PM
Thanks for the update, John.  Major bummer about Jonny and the McLeish driver!  Also a bummer to hear about Ralph's injuries.  Hope everyone is back to 100 percent asap.

Now.  I did a lotta speed shots before I had to leave the salt (I wasn't feelin too good, myself, but after lyin down for a coupla hours, I'm fine) so instead of posting a buncha stuff in groups of 4, I opened a Smugmug account and uploaded 'em there.  So I'm gonna put the links in this post and call it done.

Here we go:

Gordon Dreidger's flathead-powered Stude:

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-vLZnK2P/0/L/20130812_3899r8-L.jpg)

Bud Free's Free Spirit Gordini-powered Lakester:

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-HhjgP6t/0/L/20130812_3911r8-L.jpg)

Gordon Leland's C/GR:

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-bghNPzD/0/L/20130812_3923r8-L.jpg)

Original Fast Guy's C/BGL

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-g4bFZRQ/0/L/20130812_3933r8-L.jpg)

McCambridge Brothers' D/FL: (302 Chrysler power)

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-vjcr8rv/0/L/20130812_3968r8-L.jpg)

A turnout for "The Halophile" APS/BF 1350

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-MLRjdVr/0/L/20130812_3975r8-L.jpg)

One of my favorites, the Big Red Camaro:
(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-VwbCNwb/0/L/20130812_3985r8-L.jpg)

The Ron Hope's #755 modified roadster goes for a spin on course 2:

(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-KZ4mDMv/0/L/20130812_4020r8-L.jpg)
(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-GG6pKZW/0/L/20130812_4021r8-L.jpg)
(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-M75wKMs/0/L/20130812_4022r8a-L.jpg)

Steve "Papi" Chapelle:
(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-j8qQCZ9/0/L/20130812_4058r8-L.jpg)
(http://raytherrat.smugmug.com/Sample-Gallery/i-z4FLPXw/0/L/20130812_4062r8-L.jpg)

That's about it for tonite.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 12, 2013, 09:41:01 PM
Ray...we need more please........ :cheers:  email me your mailing address and I will send a check...really...please post more and tell us people off the salt what's going on..

Amo, better get your band back together and get us some updates since you know all of the racers...history, records etc..

Glen, get on the mic and kick some azz!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: barnsearcher on August 12, 2013, 09:54:10 PM
Glad everyone is going to be ok. I need to get word to Johnny I have his roll on film from about the 3 mile mark. Stopped by the next pit and left contact info but if anyone can tell him I would appreciate it. He can pm me
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 12, 2013, 09:55:08 PM
Ray...we need more please........ :cheers:  email me your mailing address and I will send a check...really...please post more and tell us people off the salt what's going on..

Amo, better get your band back together and get us some updates since you know all of the racers...history, records etc..

Glen, get on the mic and kick some azz!

Thanks, man.  PM sent.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 12, 2013, 11:49:53 PM
Ray The Rat or anyone else out there. Who is Gary Hart that is racing for time only???


  That's not you? :-o Must be a relative of you or linda :-D

                JL222 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 13, 2013, 12:08:56 AM
Hotnuts:
(https://sphotos-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1157747_10201317133146381_1316942550_n.jpg)

Glad to hear that he's ok, but, Dodge!  DW will never get that tattoo now!   :mrgreen:

Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Jack Gifford on August 13, 2013, 12:09:23 AM
... I did it in sepia tones cuz it reminded me of what I might have seen in a magazine in the 50s or 60s...
You have a good "eye"- came out just perfect.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JonAmo on August 13, 2013, 12:50:20 AM

Turbinator is through Tech, someone asked if 500 mph possible at this event. NOT likely. Basically New car, new driver, new everything and they just got through tech. I would expect some low speed runs and parachute test and systems checks.

George Fields pushing on George Poteet's record of 306 is really having issues getting any power down.
B&J Strasburg spun their lakester over 315 mph, they have packed up and left the salt. This is a 400 mph contender for a lakester, will be giving Freddy's 380+ number a run for their money.
Most everybody knew about Hammonds almost drive through the Red Flame for a buger incedent. Don't quote me here but may have had transmission issues.
Danny Boy Two had the rear end out of the lakester and did not see them on the salt.
Lee Sicillo was looking for a transmission.

Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 13, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
JH, you dodged the bullet this time-- glad to hear you're OK.

Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ   Wendover, UT
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JonAmo on August 13, 2013, 12:56:50 AM
Nish went down looks like ran it up in first gear maybe second and clicked it off. I heard Mike Nish is not driving. Might have been Terry in the seat.

They are moving courses tonight. 1st long course turned into a combo course today. Afternoon winds are up. There are tons of cars that have not left the pit yet due to the bad course conditions, other racers reporting bad courses and the winds.  With amount of spins, low number of 300 mph vehicles (I think only 4-5) so far results are confirmed that courses not as good as one would think.

Although there is more, I just have not made the attempt to find out more.

Chassis Engineering moved in next door to us, I cant wait to see those guy go, one of my favorite vehicles now, they are my hero's.

Ray the Rat is doing the bulk of the pictures and posting to bring info to the audience, and doing one heck of a job people. He literally is running his butt off.

Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 13, 2013, 01:27:46 AM
Little A, thank you for all of the info...racers, fans and LSR follower's need you back..get Glen, Ray, Freud, and whoever else you need and get this show going...  :cheers:

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: mc1984ss on August 13, 2013, 05:57:54 AM
Thank you everyone for the updates and the pictures! I am happy to hear that The chassis engineering car is there I was wondering if they made it. I also agree with you ray about the big red Camaro being a favorite. Any speeds from them?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 13, 2013, 06:37:35 AM
Johnny H.

Glad you are okay. From the looks of the front end of your car it must have been a rough ride.

Ray thanks again and thanks to all that post here. I am stuck in Florida working for the man and I am living vicariously through these posts and the live feed when I can.

BR

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wfojohn on August 13, 2013, 07:55:38 AM
FiremanJim,

You have a PM, please read it when you have time. Thanks, John Ritter
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 07:56:45 AM
Thank you everyone for the updates and the pictures! I am happy to hear that The chassis engineering car is there I was wondering if they made it. I also agree with you ray about the big red Camaro being a favorite. Any speeds from them?

I sure wish I could provide speeds with the photos, but the way things work....well, I just don't have enough hands (not to mention feet, cars, cameras and computers) to shoot the photos, then edit 'em while listening to the officials' FM radio (I own a special handset for this) and at the same time, listen to the FM radio broadcast, sort out the wheat from the chaff and write down the speeds.  One person can't do it.  Then multiply that by 4 for the number of courses and...well, it's just overwhelming.  To cover this event effectively, you need a minimum of 8 people; two for each course. 

Other than that, it's a piece o' cake.  LOL!

I'm outta here to head for the salt.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: revolutionary on August 13, 2013, 08:00:33 AM
Thanks again and keep up the good info!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Ole Don on August 13, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
It would be nice to have some music or the old race tapes from Ron C when things are quiet just so we know the site still works. Other than that, great work and a huge thank you to you younger guys who can still make the trip. Ray T rat, there will be a check in the mail soon.
   Ole Don
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 13, 2013, 09:00:52 AM
Looks like Stainless Steel car #1411 just spun out at the 5 mile, course 2 down for looking for parts, he was at around 24o when he spun, car and driver OK This was for the record run.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: BasementBorn on August 13, 2013, 09:25:30 AM
I really hate to do this but I'm a new rider with a new bike. Ran out of time before speed week so the bike wasn't tested before I got here needless to say I have yet to run. I did get through tech though. Is there any chance anyone has a bike they would let me do a rookie run on? I know its a fairly tall favor to ask.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: thawley on August 13, 2013, 09:28:16 AM
I really hate to do this but I'm a new rider with a new bike. Ran out of time before speed week so the bike wasn't tested before I got here needless to say I have yet to run. I did get through tech though. Is there any chance anyone has a bike they would let me do a rookie run on? I know its a fairly tall favor to ask.

Find Scott Guthrie. He knows just about every rider there.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
I saw on my facebook page that Lee Kennedy went 235 in the 5 for a 230 something record.  Congrats to them. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 09:38:00 AM
636 camaro spun around at 240+, lots of spins this year.   :evil:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 09:44:05 AM
Hot Rod camaro 462, 2 1/4-188, 3-190, 4-185 chute out.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: BasementBorn on August 13, 2013, 09:45:28 AM
I'll see if I can track him down thanks
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 13, 2013, 09:52:16 AM
John N...others.:)..here is the link to Ray site ..the PayPal function works sweet:
http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html

many  know the landracing donate button

yes extremely tough not being there....one selfishly cuz not on course getting after it....and not getting enough tech details about the thousands of various lsr scenarios out there...and now because so many of our friends and family having mishaps...( I know that's what we get for not being there...but it still blows big time)

Stainless being transported to University Hospital...

Joe
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 09:58:37 AM
John N...others.:)..here is the link to Ray site ..the PayPal function works sweet:
http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html

many  know the landracing donate button

yes extremely tough not being there....one selfishly cuz not on course getting after it....and not getting enough tech details about the thousands of various lsr scenarios out there...and now because so many of our friends and family having mishaps...( I know that's what we get for not being there...but it still blows big time)

Stainless being transported to University Hospital...

Joe



Hope Stainless is ok and his trip to the hostpital is only pre-cautionary. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 10:02:12 AM
John N...others.:)..here is the link to Ray site ..the PayPal function works sweet:
http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html

many  know the landracing donate button

yes extremely tough not being there....one selfishly cuz not on course getting after it....and not getting enough tech details about the thousands of various lsr scenarios out there...and now because so many of our friends and family having mishaps...( I know that's what we get for not being there...but it still blows big time)

Stainless being transported to University Hospital...

Joe



Hope Stainless is ok and his trip to the hospital is only precautionary. :cheers:

Amen to that!  I was on Course 1 and didn't even know about it until some guy brought photos of the car at the starting line.

Photos to come.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 13, 2013, 10:07:40 AM
Our prayers are with him going to SLC hospital, by ambulance that's a 2 hr and 30 minute ride to the hospital, I know because that's where I was after the car hit me in the cross walk last year in Wendover after the volunteer dinner. We pray for better news on his status and for doctors wisdom in treating him. Take care, Dave Bloomberg (Avanti Kid Racing)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 13, 2013, 10:25:40 AM
Which streamliner just did the 418?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 13, 2013, 10:26:37 AM
Poteet in the Speed Demon.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 13, 2013, 10:27:20 AM
Poteet in the Speed Demon.

Thanks!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: lsrjunkie on August 13, 2013, 10:35:22 AM
The coverage on here has been great! Keep it up guys! Not as good as standing there in person, but alas, I had to leave and come back to work.

I would love to have the live feed going here at the shop but can't seem to get it to work. Any ideas?

Also, has anybody heard how Buddy's Flat Cad is doing? Saw it sitting in impound Sunday. And I'd like to know if there is any news on Jeff Brock's Buick. He seemed to be having trouble breaking the 165mph mark. I'd really like to see that old car break 170 plus!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 13, 2013, 10:40:37 AM
I could not get the feed to work in IE. I had to download Firefox and a plugin and it works fine.

As for Buddy and the FlatCad, they did set a record. Look at their Build Diary for the info.

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 10:55:19 AM
Some daze is better than others and this ain't one of 'em.  I waited for 90 minutes to get a shot of the Salt Cat lakester...finally came back Burb to use my Smugmug account to upload/post photos.  It ain't workin.  I could only get it co come up on Internet Explorer (sucks) but their upload system is broke.  I'm also really bummed out about Jonny and Stainless...I feel real bad about 'em.

So. Here are some photos from the Course 1 starting line without doing the research to provide names/teams/classes, etc.  The ambulance is Stainless on the way for a checkup.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 13, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
Looks like Stainless Steel car #1411 just spun out at the 5 mile, course 2 down for looking for parts, he was at around 24o when he spun, car and driver OK This was for the record run.

  Can't believe all the lakesters that have spun this year that have never spun.

  The real story is the course conditions, how about a close up or video of course 1 from start to finish or whatever. Somebody? Maybe an interview with someone who has spun.

  Last year the course had crooves and high spots in it but not bumpy, like they couldn't grade it down low enough
to get it smoother. It felt like the 222 car could spin at any time and other years it has a glued in feeling.
  Wonder if thats how it is this year or wet or loose or what.

 Bvilleracer and I videoed it a few years back after couse was closed for the day.

  Going to try to call Ed Whiteley. Ed  works on the crew that sets up the mile and 1/4 mile banners.

  Hope Stainless is OK sounds like more than a spin if he's on the way to hospital.

             JL222


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Clay Pitkin on August 13, 2013, 11:01:54 AM
Hotnuts:
(https://sphotos-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1157747_10201317133146381_1316942550_n.jpg)

Glad to hear that he's ok, but, Dodge!  DW will never get that tattoo now!   :mrgreen:

Mike

Has anybody heard on JH condition?

Jonny, I am sorry I could not be there, I am trying to get my car ready for WOS,

I hope all the best for you, prayers are on the way!


On a side note, is it me or has there been more spins and crashes this meet ?

Just wondering
Clay
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 11:08:13 AM

Glad to hear that he's ok, but, Dodge!  DW will never get that tattoo now!   :mrgreen:

Mike

Has anybody heard on JH condition?

Jonny, I am sorry I could not be there, I am trying to get my car ready for WOS,

I hope all the best for you, prayers are on the way!


On a side note, is it me or has there been more spins and crashes this meet ?

Just wondering
Clay

I guess you haven't been following.  There have been a LOT of spins and several crashes.  I won't go into detail on 'em, cuz that ain't what we're here for.  But it's been anything but uneventful from that standpoint.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 11:14:03 AM
We just had another spin on course 1.  I didn't catch the number.

Here are 4 more photos, then I'm going to course 4.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 11:32:04 AM
Hotnuts:
(https://sphotos-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1157747_10201317133146381_1316942550_n.jpg)

Glad to hear that he's ok, but, Dodge!  DW will never get that tattoo now!   :mrgreen:

Mike

Has anybody heard on JH condition?

Jonny, I am sorry I could not be there, I am trying to get my car ready for WOS,

I hope all the best for you, prayers are on the way!


On a side note, is it me or has there been more spins and crashes this meet ?

Just wondering
Clay

He is being released from the hospital today, a little bruised but fine.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: lsrjunkie on August 13, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
Good to hear he is ok!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dave Haller on August 13, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
This meet appears to have the worst number of incidents since I have been participating over the past 20 years. Be safe out there folks, it's a hobby!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 13, 2013, 11:43:16 AM
Interesting course conditions...Jon said its predominately smooth and hard not soft and damp...they were 232 middle mile yesterday with 246 last mile, today 246 in middle mile, then crash....

Jon watched video....rolled at least 16 times...stainless seemed to think he stayed conscious throughout...cage intact, car completely totalled....many more details... ill hold back on for Jon and others to add as they see fit
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 13, 2013, 11:47:19 AM
Monday results are posted.
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/results_index.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/results_index.html)

edit - make that a partial list. All short course runs above vehicle #648 are missing. No run notes either.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 11:49:05 AM
Interesting course conditions...Jon said its predominately smooth and hard not soft and damp...they were 232 middle mile yesterday with 246 last mile, today 246 in middle mile, then crash....

Jon watched video....rolled at least 16 times...stainless seemed to think he stayed conscious throughout...cage intact, car completely totalled....many more details... ill hold back on for Jon and others to add as they see fit

Oh, sh*t!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 13, 2013, 11:49:38 AM
Interesting course conditions...Jon said its predominately smooth and hard not soft and damp...they were 232 middle mile yesterday with 246 last mile, today 246 in middle mile, then crash....

Jon watched video....rolled at least 16 times...stainless seemed to think he stayed conscious throughout...cage intact, car completely totalled....many more details... ill hold back on for Jon and others to add as they see fit



Dammit!


Sorry to hear the car is totaled..
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 13, 2013, 11:50:30 AM
I just talked to Buddy and he went 186 mph with the Flat Cad.  They are going to impound.  The car went straight with no problems.  The engine is not running clean and he thinks it has more in it.  Good news.  Congratulations to the crew.

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: floydjer on August 13, 2013, 12:03:56 PM
JH. Stainless et al...Good wishes are with you all.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 13, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
 Got a hold of ED said more spins today than in 15 yrs. Said course was good or better than some in past yrs?
 So he didn't know why so many spins. Said they were really busy putting up banners.
 
 Most spins between 1st and 2nd mile after start.

  Asked about grooves, and he said there was some of that + some loose salt after 3 days on same course.

  Said Freddy went 265 and clicked it at the 21/4 and went smooth and straight.

        JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: TerryW on August 13, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
Interesting course conditions...Jon said its predominately smooth and hard not soft and damp...they were 232 middle mile yesterday with 246 last mile, today 246 in middle mile, then crash....

Jon watched video....rolled at least 16 times...stainless seemed to think he stayed conscious throughout...cage intact, car completely totalled....many more details... ill hold back on for Jon and others to add as they see fit


Listening to the online feed. They just reported that Stainless has minor cuts and bruises and has been released.

Speed Safe out there!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
Got a hold of ED said more spins today than in 15 yrs.

I'll vouch for that from an unofficial gut feeling.

I'm on course 4 and I'll have some shots of real slow bikes/license passes, etc. in a bit.
 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: TURK on August 13, 2013, 01:04:46 PM
Glad to hear Stainless is OK, he's tough ,sorry about the car, but they can be fixed.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 01:30:43 PM
From course 4:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 13, 2013, 01:31:06 PM
They were going to release Srainless after nothing more than an ECG and listen to lung sounds....he said "to hell you are...your going to do more tests...I have good insurance..."  ... now getting CT scan...

I think the folks need to see pics of car... to understand the forces involved...and other factors from scene...not mentioned yet..

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 02:13:21 PM
There's been another incident on course 2.  I got to that radio channel late, but apparently the driver/car hit some debris and also a marker.  Car's windshield id smashed, I don't know any more than that at this time.  Driver/car: Dick Martin, car 443 (I think that's the car number...I could be wrong.)  Driver MAY be transported in ambulance.  Not sure at thus time.

Here are the last 4 images from course 4, which has now shut down as scheduled.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JonAmo on August 13, 2013, 02:26:59 PM
Group,

Stainless will be able to read all later, but he is OK. No broken bones that we know of, some scrapes and bruises, cage was still intact. Not released from hospital yet, waiting on results from cat scan etc. From the video I saw of the accident looks like a bunch of rolls. The car is gone.... Have four LSR tires for sale, one currently detached from vehicle..... I asked Burkdoll if he brought his fiberglass repair kit.....
More to come later.... Haven't release the car back to me yet that may be Wednesday before that happens.

Thanks all whom have sent notes to us.

Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 13, 2013, 02:29:13 PM
They were going to release Srainless after nothing more than an ECG and listen to lung sounds....he said "to hell you are...your going to do more tests...I have good insurance..."  ... now getting CT scan...

I think the folks need to see pics of car... to understand the forces involved...and other factors from scene...not mentioned yet..



VERY glad to hear that the docs were ready to release him. I have no idea, but I think if I rolled 16+ times going 240+, I'd want to get checked over as closely as possible.

Thanks for updates Joe.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
BMR #66 in the 2 1/4- 160, 3-164, didn't get a 4th mile time. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: LSR Mike on August 13, 2013, 02:46:38 PM
Group,

Have four LSR tires for sale, one currently detached from vehicle..... I asked Burkdoll if he brought his fiberglass repair kit.....


Thanks all whom have sent notes to us.

Jon

now there is a sense of humor... sorry to hear the car is a goner, good to hear Stainless will live to drive another day. What size are the tires? J/K :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 13, 2013, 02:48:07 PM
Group,

Stainless will be able to read all later, but he is OK. No broken bones that we know of, some scrapes and bruises, cage was still intact. Not released from hospital yet, waiting on results from cat scan etc. From the video I saw of the accident looks like a bunch of rolls. The car is gone.... Have four LSR tires for sale, one currently detached from vehicle..... I asked Burkdoll if he brought his fiberglass repair kit.....
More to come later.... Haven't release the car back to me yet that may be Wednesday before that happens.

Thanks all whom have sent notes to us.

Jon

Jon, sorry to hear about  this. Am sure glad Stainless is OK.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: LittleLiner on August 13, 2013, 03:23:53 PM
Via Facebook, Tonya Turk says the HRM Camaro blew engine on this mornings backup run and is done for the event. . . .
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Bob Drury on August 13, 2013, 03:25:45 PM
  Jon, thank God.
  Give my best to Bob and best of luck to you and Johnboy on packing up.   Have a safe trip home and I hope to see you all in one year.          Bob Drury
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 04:00:53 PM
speed demon  3-343, 4-392, 5-424.  432 exit.  I believe thats a qualifier.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 04:06:59 PM
cohn, thompson 3-194, 4-207, 5-213, exit 215
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Dan on August 13, 2013, 04:13:20 PM
The Land Speed people are a close family and it shows when these kinds of things happen. Praying for the safety of all of the people out there and extra for the drivers as this seems to be a crazy one. Glad those who have crashed are OK but it still stops your heart when you hear about it. A couple of days left and hope the rest of the week goes better than the last two days. Be safe out there.

A Big "Thank You" to all who stepped forward and offered to transport the manifolds back East for us. A fellow racer has offered to transport them and for that we are thankful. I have quickly learned that if you need something done just ask the "family" and they step up to the plate every time. I am so glad that Dave Bloomberg introduced me to Land Speed racing and I look forward to being there next year with our new car.
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 04:18:31 PM
#77 Hammond on the short course. 2 1/4-243, 3-254
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 04:24:32 PM
Sounds like Speed Demon wont be going to impound, they want a bigger bump to their record.  So if all is fine then they will get back in line and run again today if they have time. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
996 Midget 2 1/4, 116, 3-117 :cheers: Needs a few more mph :cheers:  Go going Chris
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kansas Bad Man on August 13, 2013, 04:37:23 PM
Group,

Stainless will be able to read all later, but he is OK. No broken bones that we know of, some scrapes and bruises, cage was still intact. Not released from hospital yet, waiting on results from cat scan etc. From the video I saw of the accident looks like a bunch of rolls. The car is gone.... Have four LSR tires for sale, one currently detached from vehicle..... I asked Burkdoll if he brought his fiberglass repair kit.....
More to come later.... Haven't release the car back to me yet that may be Wednesday before that happens.

Thanks all whom have sent notes to us.

Jon


I just sent a fairly long post to this thread.  Don't know where it went.  It didn't show up. 

                     ?????????????????????????????


                                      Max



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 13, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
Quote
they want a bigger bump to their record

Ya gotta love somebody that isn't happy with four hundred and twenty four freakin miles per hour
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 13, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Valley Fever Streamliner got their A liscense at 208.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SaltPeter on August 13, 2013, 04:43:12 PM
996 Midget 2 1/4, 116, 3-117 :cheers: Needs a few more mph :cheers:  Go going Chris

Way to go  :mrgreen: :cheers: 8-) :cheers:

Gotto be amazed at the Demon :-o

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 13, 2013, 04:43:26 PM
Good to read Stainless is ok , but real sorry the car is totalled
Jon you and Stainless i thought were still a way to go to find its limits

when you get beyond the dissapointment i hope you can look forward to a better  V2
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 13, 2013, 04:45:40 PM
Just heard that a crew member from Speed Demon stopped by to talked to the announcers.
He told the guy's that Poteet's 424 pass was his 30th over 400!

30th over 400 MPH!!!!

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: LittleLiner on August 13, 2013, 04:46:48 PM
Ray the Rat.  I love your work and reporting!  hang in there!!!

I just sent a small donation to your Chevy Asylum web site
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 13, 2013, 04:49:12 PM
67 LSR junkies online right this minute.  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 04:51:39 PM
Gossip from the pits.  Where to start?  Rob Freyvogel threw a tread on one of his rear tires and asked if I'd help find one.  In searching around, I found Robbie Cohn who told me that the salt is BAD.  That was backed up by Ed Van Scoy.  I found the tire next door in Keith Turk's pit...and they'd spun and blown the motor. 

A transmission heard on the radio:  "Tell the racers that the center of course 1 is torn up already, but the sides are good."  Another rumor states that there's been a meeting to discuss what to do with the courses. 

Pork Pie just stopped by to tell me that he saw a video of Stainless' crash and it was one of the worst he's ever seen. 

I don't intend to cast a pall over the whole meet, but there have been what seems like a record number of spins, several crashes but so far nothing worse.  I'm sure gonna be sayin some prayers for a safe remainder of the meet.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 04:52:50 PM
Ray the Rat.  I love your work and reporting!  hang in there!!!

I just sent a small donation to your Chevy Asylum web site

Thanks, man.  I appreciate the support from you and everyone else who's been very kind and generous in their donations.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 04:55:44 PM
Another spin at the 1/4 on course 1.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 13, 2013, 05:04:31 PM
Ray the Rat.  I love your work and reporting!  hang in there!!!

I just sent a small donation to your Chevy Asylum web site

Thanks, man.  I appreciate the support from you and everyone else who's been very kind and generous in their donations.


Ray, nice to chat with you again at Salt Talks. I enjoyed your "editorial" on all the yellow vested "photographers"! :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 13, 2013, 05:37:06 PM
And another spin on course 1.....car 1553.

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
Ray the Rat.  I love your work and reporting!  hang in there!!!

I just sent a small donation to your Chevy Asylum web site



Ray, nice to chat with you again at Salt Talks. I enjoyed your "editorial" on all the yellow vested "photographers"! :-D

Thanks, man.  I appreciate the support from you and everyone else who's been very kind and generous in their donations.

Thanks, bro.  I enjoyed the chat, too.  Hotrod (Larry) started a thread on starting line etiquette and did a very good job of explaining what's acceptable and what's not.  In the military, we used to say, "there's always that 10 percent that doesn't get the word."  Seems to be the opposite here.  When Pork Pie stopped by here (I'm at the 2 on course 1) he told me about a couple of goofballs that had followed him out past the 5 with no CB, no Press sticker in the car window but had vests.  He told me that he got sorta adamant about turning 'em around, at one point suggesting that he'd get in touch with Joann Carlson who could find someone to escort them off the salt...permanently.  

In the last coupla hours we've had at least 3 drivers get lost and cross courses 2 and 1 from course 3.  I dunno why we haven't had something bad happen.  

Anyway, here are 2 cars that made it past me without a spin or turnout:



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 13, 2013, 05:52:58 PM
Streaming done for the day ??
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 13, 2013, 05:55:52 PM
No. They are broadcasting right now.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 13, 2013, 05:58:23 PM
must be my end then , thanks
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 13, 2013, 06:02:11 PM
Sumner just made his second license pass in the 974.

John

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 13, 2013, 06:05:34 PM
John, I stepped away for a few minutes and didn't hear Sum's run. What were the speeds?

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 13, 2013, 06:05:48 PM
must be my end then , thanks

Sometimes you have to hit the refresh button. Then it will come on.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
Sumner just made his second license pass in the 974.

John



Sumner running it?  Kool!

Here's a shot on the return road:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: BHR301 on August 13, 2013, 06:16:37 PM
Just heard them talking about the American Iron Roadster class requiring a steel body..where is that requirement shown in the rule book?

Bill
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 13, 2013, 06:24:25 PM
must be my end then , thanks

Sometimes you have to hit the refresh button. Then it will come on.

think i wore it out   :-(
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 13, 2013, 06:25:03 PM
John, I stepped away for a few minutes and didn't hear Sum's run. What were the speeds?

Gregg

I think he went about 173.  They made a quick turn around from his first pass.  I have not talked to them since they made the passes.  Sumner was excited this morning and ready to drive.

As a side note I have heard that the car received an award from the veterans group the Wounded Warrior Project.  This is very special to all of us who are a part of this car.

John

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 13, 2013, 06:33:33 PM
John, I stepped away for a few minutes and didn't hear Sum's run. What were the speeds?

Gregg

I think he went about 173.  They made a quick turn around from his first pass.  I have not talked to them since they made the passes.  Sumner was excited this morning and ready to drive.

As a side note I have heard that the car received an award from the veterans group the Wounded Warrior Project.  This is very special to all of us who are a part of this car.

John



VERY cool award! How does one get involved with the WW project and their car? We are interested.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 13, 2013, 07:15:39 PM
John, I stepped away for a few minutes and didn't hear Sum's run. What were the speeds?

Gregg

I think he went about 173.  They made a quick turn around from his first pass.  I have not talked to them since they made the passes.  Sumner was excited this morning and ready to drive.

As a side note I have heard that the car received an award from the veterans group the Wounded Warrior Project.  This is very special to all of us who are a part of this car.

John



VERY cool award! How does one get involved with the WW project and their car? We are interested.

I have no knowledge of this at all.  My information was second hand.  I am sure that in the near future we will find out more.

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 13, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Thank you everyone for the updates and the pictures! I am happy to hear that The chassis engineering car is there I was wondering if they made it. I also agree with you ray about the big red Camaro being a favorite. Any speeds from them?

I sure wish I could provide speeds with the photos, but the way things work....well, I just don't have enough hands (not to mention feet, cars, cameras and computers) to shoot the photos, then edit 'em while listening to the officials' FM radio (I own a special handset for this) and at the same time, listen to the FM radio broadcast, sort out the wheat from the chaff and write down the speeds.  One person can't do it.  Then multiply that by 4 for the number of courses and...well, it's just overwhelming.  To cover this event effectively, you need a minimum of 8 people; two for each course. 

Other than that, it's a piece o' cake.  LOL!

I'm outta here to head for the salt.


From a newbie stuck at home, I think youre pretty awesome with the reports! Thanks so much Ray!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Land Speed Lady on August 13, 2013, 07:21:27 PM

I would love to have the live feed going here at the shop but can't seem to get it to work. Any ideas?


Get on Firefox, Safari or Chrome and not on Internet Explorer, which seems to have issues with the feed. IE has issues with everything actually, so its not a surprise. Let us know if that works for you. :)  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 13, 2013, 07:44:59 PM
Now that's a wing with a Studebaker attached to it. 

Looks good, good racing.

BR


Sumner just made his second license pass in the 974.

John



Sumner running it?  Kool!

Here's a shot on the return road:


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: javajoe79 on August 13, 2013, 08:02:50 PM
Sumner just made his second license pass in the 974.

John



Sumner running it?  Kool!

Here's a shot on the return road:


Holy cow!  Haven't seen that car since Wilmington last year. What a wing!   Also by the looks of it they went to turbo or centri blower?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 13, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
John, I stepped away for a few minutes and didn't hear Sum's run. What were the speeds?

Gregg

I think he went about 173.  They made a quick turn around from his first pass.  I have not talked to them since they made the passes.  Sumner was excited this morning and ready to drive.

As a side note I have heard that the car received an award from the veterans group the Wounded Warrior Project.  This is very special to all of us who are a part of this car.

John



VERY cool award! How does one get involved with the WW project and their car? We are interested.

I have no knowledge of this at all.  My information was second hand.  I am sure that in the near future we will find out more.

John

The car is the #6501 D/GT Corvette owned by Dan Heerings of Holland, Mi. 

Hope that helps,

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 13, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
Sumner just made his second license pass in the 974.

John



Sumner running it?  Kool!

Here's a shot on the return road:




Hmmm...that looks like a Studebird...or a Superbaker!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 13, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
Bret Kepner, long course timing slips, actually it's course 1 and course 2 timing slips, have had 26 spins.

It is weird.  

Course #1, our traditional  "long course" has a long time between runs. Many fast cars have gone to course 2 to run.

Now anyone seems to run on course #1 that wants to.  In the past the only cars that ran on the long course had to run

over 175 in the quarter mile lights. That isn't the case now. Maybe they can only go to the 3.

It's just strange.

Besides, its pretty mnad hot.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 13, 2013, 08:40:29 PM
Thanks for your reports Ray. Now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,go get some rest. Mark. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Cyclone on August 13, 2013, 10:12:35 PM
Big thanks to all for the updates and pictures.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 14, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
Bret Kepner, long course timing slips, actually it's course 1 and course 2 timing slips, have had 26 spins.

It is weird.  

Course #1, our traditional  "long course" has a long time between runs. Many fast cars have gone to course 2 to run.

Now anyone seems to run on course #1 that wants to.  In the past the only cars that ran on the long course had to run

over 175 in the quarter mile lights. That isn't the case now. Maybe they can only go to the 3.

It's just strange.

Besides, its pretty mnad hot.

FREUD

  It always amazes me that I never see competitors at he end of the day [bville or El Mirage] checking out the course, or SCTA/BNI officials during the day, maybe they do, but have never noticed a hold up for course check.

  Bvilleracer and I check at end of day when we have a chance and still light.

 Had problems hooking up last year, and course had long grooves and higher areas running with course which
meant tire contack patch was not making full contack. Wonder if it's like that this year.

 Also it was reported last year that the salt was the best in years, but for us and others it wasn't because course sure as hell was not grated smooth. I'M sure BNI is grading the best they can for the conditions and equipment
they have. I do have an idea for grading smooth a hard surface but not sure how fast or even if it would work but a test machine on a small scale could be tried.

  Sounds like course was hard for awhile but still lots of spins. Maybe its to hard or lacking the potash is causing the problems.

 Wish I was there to see myself and take pics and videos.

 Anyhow BNI needs to make a through investigation on why all the spins and crashes.

              JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 14, 2013, 12:19:08 AM
Seth  Hammond said that the reason their lakester spin was because of a trench in the course.

The tire tracks came right out of the trenched part of the course.

Everyone thought that we had great salt but it doesn't appear that that is the situation.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 8pack on August 14, 2013, 12:22:49 AM
Soft spot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cjq1fKCAoY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Jack Gifford on August 14, 2013, 02:20:29 AM
... four hundred and twenty four freakin miles per hour
If that's still with the 'D' engine- WOW!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RidgeRunner on August 14, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
 



[/quote]


 .......or lacking the potash is causing the problems.......


[/quote]


An interesting point, one I have wondered about more than once over the years.  A cake doesn't bake with the same results when you change the ingredient mix....

Ed
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: floydjer on August 14, 2013, 08:33:13 AM
Hey Freud...Wave so we can see you..................
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 14, 2013, 09:20:24 AM
Good Morning,

Just want to pass on a little info. that I read over on Bangshift regarding the big hitter streamliners that are on the salt this year. It appears that Nish is done, as they burnt some pistons and are said to be questionable for Cook's Shootout. What a bummer, these guys need a break.

Not sure what's going on with Speed Demon, other then they've gone through a lot of parts. It wasn't said if and/or when they will run again.

Sounds like things are looking good for the Dalton, Jackson, and Meyer Flashpoint Streamliner, as they are performing routine maintenance and changing gears ratios to go for a 400+mph number. They ran a very respectable 382mph yesterday and say it was a bit soft, so they're going to throw a bit more at it.

Bangshift also mentions that the Turbinator has been working feverishly to get everything buttoned up and hope to turn a wheel on the salt today.

Thanks to Ray for all of your photo's and updates and thanks Jon Amo and others for there updates as well. This sucks being at home, but you guys and your hard work make sitting here at the desk the next best thing to being out on the salt. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
Thanks for the streamliner info, Tom.  Real bummer about Nish.  I hope they can make it to the Shootout.

I've been following one team this morning, the 3838 A/BGMS Corvette built (and so far) driven by Rob Freyvogel.  They changed the engine tune for this morning's run and apparently went the wrong way, cuz they fired off a lotta shots at ducks and other fowl, but came up short on their record return.  Back to square one.

Coupla photos:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 10:25:39 AM
Some photos from Record Returns:

Stoney Fritz's twin 1670 Yamaha stretch bike.

I don't know anything about this H/PS car.

Another UFO: a 250 cc Yamaha.

Last photo is another unknown Honda 175.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 10:45:06 AM
The last of the Course 2 starting line photos:

An unidentified 1350 class Harley.

Shug Hanchard's So What Speed Shop C/American Iron Roadster.

Finally, the rider of the 350 cc bike from Ecole Performance gets some help from his friends in the form of a pushoff.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 14, 2013, 10:48:14 AM
Soft spot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cjq1fKCAoY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  I would call that an extremely loose course.

  No wonder so many spins if other courses the same.

  Skinny tire conditions :-D

              JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Rcktscientist on August 14, 2013, 10:56:07 AM
We are all very happy to see all of the Drivers have emerged from some horrendous incedents without major trauma. I hope BNI will do a thourough investigation of the spins and incidents, where they took place on which track, winds, time of day, etc. to try to find root cause. This is no ones failing, just trying to understand and improve for future meets. Being a builder I am curious to understand specifics of configurations, clearance from helmet to cage, type of padding, type of Hans device, etc. This info helps me continue to improve and build safer cars.

I also will miss seeing the cars that were destroyed. LSR racing has unique vehicles. Each one has taken countless hours and represents the dedication of the designers and builders. The loss of some iconic, in my mind, cars this week changes the landscape and I hope the Owners/Drivers return with new vehicles.

I also am again revisiting Downforce vs. Neutral designs. On a slick track, cars like Poteet's have huge downforce and are extremely stable. If you have the HP... We have seen several low downforce Lakesters spin, that is rare. Maybe we can start another thread for this discussion.

Finally, Way to go Dalton! Let's see the next 400MPH contender!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Flipper_1938 on August 14, 2013, 11:05:30 AM
How did the Flat Cad guys do this morning?  Did they back up yesterday's pass?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 14, 2013, 11:11:47 AM
How did the Flat Cad guys do this morning?  Did they back up yesterday's pass?

When they fired the engine this morning they found a head gasket leaking.  They are changing the gasket and should run again today.

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SteveM on August 14, 2013, 11:29:53 AM
Did anyone catch whether #8217 H/DT entry (Aaron's Salt Machine) 1981 VW Rabbit pickup was able to set a new record this morning. 

It looks like his last run yesterday should have qualified.

8217    H         DT         Aaron's Salt Machine    100.165    101.628    101.002    101.628
8217    H         DT         Aaron's Salt Machine    103.201    101.547    95.382    101.547
8217    H         DT         Aaron's Salt Machine    106.238    103.524    106.217    106.217

The record as of yesterday morning was 105.581 mph.

Steve.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 11:53:00 AM
I was shooting the cars (and bikes) in the course 2 staging lanes and was about to head over to the course 1 lanes when Iran into Dan Kaplan.  He said, "are ya syre ya wanna leave this course?" and pointed to something that had just come into view:  The Richmond & Stark AA/FS car fixin to make its very first run on the salt.  I shot these photos of it and I'll stick around to see how the virgin run goes.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 14, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
Very nice looking. Thanks Ray.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: nrhs sales on August 14, 2013, 12:06:06 PM
wow that is pretty!  Twin engines?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: firemanjim on August 14, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
Dang, I need to talk to these blown 2 stroke guys about oil pump for turbo!!!!!  Anyone know them?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: lsrjunkie on August 14, 2013, 01:03:47 PM
Awesome pictures Ray!  :cheers: Keep em coming!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 01:10:21 PM
wow that is pretty!  Twin engines?

Yes.  2 386" Chevy Smallblocks.  Since it was the virgin run, Lee Kennedy paced it as they pushed off.  After both engines were making a little power, they shut it down; I figger that's as planned.

And there's always one photographer who selfishly spoils things for everybody else.



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Dan on August 14, 2013, 01:11:52 PM
Help I can't find it! I have been looking for something that would help me see what kind of car Stainless was driving before the crash. The pictures posted here after the crash don't give much clue as to what the car looked like before. Just curious as to how different parts for the car held up under those kinds of forces. Part of building a new car and wanting to learn and be safe. If you can help me with this I would appreciate it. Glad that he is OK and will return but it is sad the car is gone.
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 14, 2013, 01:23:35 PM
Amo Steele streamliner: http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4840.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4840.0.html) thru 2011.

Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 14, 2013, 01:24:22 PM
Help I can't find it! I have been looking for something that would help me see what kind of car Stainless was driving before the crash. The pictures posted here after the crash don't give much clue as to what the car looked like before. Just curious as to how different parts for the car held up under those kinds of forces. Part of building a new car and wanting to learn and be safe. If you can help me with this I would appreciate it. Glad that he is OK and will return but it is sad the car is gone.
Dan

The pictures of a crash posted in this thread was of Johnny Hotnuts vehicle, I havent seen any of the Amo-Steele streamliner.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 01:24:49 PM
Help I can't find it! I have been looking for something that would help me see what kind of car Stainless was driving before the crash. The pictures posted here after the crash don't give much clue as to what the car looked like before. Just curious as to how different parts for the car held up under those kinds of forces. Part of building a new car and wanting to learn and be safe. If you can help me with this I would appreciate it. Glad that he is OK and will return but it is sad the car is gone.
Dan

I guess you didn't go thru all the posts on this thread, then.  Reply 248 shows a photo of it.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Rcktscientist on August 14, 2013, 01:37:20 PM
wow that is pretty!  Twin engines?

Yes.  2 386" Chevy Smallblocks.  Since it was the virgin run, Lee Kennedy paced it as they pushed off.  After both engines were making a little power, they shut it down; I figger that's as planned.

And there's always one photographer who selfishly spoils things for everybody else.

There will be until officials put ropes and designated areas for crew, spectators and photographers. Most organizations do that but it may take someone getting hurt before they take better control.

Great new Streamliner, 4 wheel drive? Are motors physically joined or independent like MT's Autolite car and Noel Black's?




Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Dan on August 14, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
OK now the fog is clearing. The crash photos are of Hotnuts car and now i am not sure if the Amo-Steele streamliner also crashed. I am thinking now that it did not. Is that correct? Thank you Ray for the great coverage and stories. You make the pain of not being there a little less intense. Hope I didn't accidently start a rumor that the streamliner crashed. :oops:
Dan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 14, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
Avanti, yes the Amo-Steel 'liner did crash the other day.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 14, 2013, 01:48:32 PM
In deed!

Interesting course conditions...Jon said its predominately smooth and hard not soft and damp...they were 232 middle mile yesterday with 246 last mile, today 246 in middle mile, then crash....

Jon watched video....rolled at least 16 times...stainless seemed to think he stayed conscious throughout...cage intact, car completely totalled....many more details... ill hold back on for Jon and others to add as they see fit


Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 14, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
OK now the fog is clearing. The crash photos are of Hotnuts car and now i am not sure if the Amo-Steele streamliner also crashed. I am thinking now that it did not. Is that correct? Thank you Ray for the great coverage and stories. You make the pain of not being there a little less intense. Hope I didn't accidently start a rumor that the streamliner crashed. :oops:
Dan

Reported as one of the worse crashes ever seen.  Car is demolished.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 14, 2013, 01:50:36 PM
Got salt lakester, 2 1/4-279 3-287 chute is out. :cheers:  Needed a bit more, but could have been a test run. :-P
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 14, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
OK now the fog is clearing. The crash photos are of Hotnuts car and now i am not sure if the Amo-Steele streamliner also crashed. I am thinking now that it did not. Is that correct? Thank you Ray for the great coverage and stories. You make the pain of not being there a little less intense. Hope I didn't accidently start a rumor that the streamliner crashed. :oops:
Dan

I don't believe that any images of the crash or the car have been posted?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 02:01:30 PM
While waiting for the streamliner, here were a few other cars that ran:

I think the 426 car still belongs to Willy Boelke, but I can't find it in the program.

Chuck Waldbrige's 393 B/CBFALT coupe.

The Iron Donosaur Racing C/BFL.

The photo doesn't do justice to the metallic green paint on this Corvette entered by Valkyrie Motorsports.



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 02:06:20 PM
OK now the fog is clearing. The crash photos are of Hotnuts car and now i am not sure if the Amo-Steele streamliner also crashed. I am thinking now that it did not. Is that correct? Thank you Ray for the great coverage and stories. You make the pain of not being there a little less intense. Hope I didn't accidently start a rumor that the streamliner crashed. :oops:
Dan

I don't believe that any images of the crash or the car have been posted?

Not on here.  The images of Jonny Hotnuts car came from his Facebook page.  Several photographers have photos of the Amo-Steele crash, but they're refraining from posting them out of courtesy to the team.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 14, 2013, 02:11:35 PM
They qualfied for the record yesterday. Did they back it up this morning?
3838 A BGMS Vinson / Allison Gang 217.424 234.329 266.787 276.629 278.521 276.629
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 02:15:34 PM
wow that is pretty!  Twin engines?

Yes.  2 386" Chevy Smallblocks.  Since it was the virgin run, Lee Kennedy paced it as they pushed off.  After both engines were making a little power, they shut it down; I figger that's as planned.

And there's always one photographer who selfishly spoils things for everybody else.


There will be until officials put ropes and designated areas for crew, spectators and photographers. Most organizations do that but it may take someone getting hurt before they take better control.

There was such an area on course 1 for the first couple of days.  It didn't really help.  The officials need to have someone other than the starters responsible for "crowd control."

Quote
Great new Streamliner, 4 wheel drive? Are motors physically joined or independent like MT's Autolite car and Noel Black's?

I don't know the particulars on the car, although it IS 4wd.  I saw if for the first time today.  I'd think that having the motors/drivetrains coupled like the Target 550 liner is a better way to go as opposed to having 'em independent.  But there aren't any hard and fast rules, and others may have a different opinion.  For example, when I saw the position of the motor in the Amo-Steele liner (tail-hanger), I was very surprised....but Stainless told me that it "looked good on paper."  Take that for what it's worth.  I'm gonna suspend judgement until I know more about the cause of the crash.


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 02:17:16 PM
They qualfied for the record yesterday. Did they back it up this morning?
3838 A BGMS Vinson / Allison Gang 217.424 234.329 266.787 276.629 278.521 276.629

Refer to post 414: "the 3838 A/BGMS Corvette built (and so far) driven by Rob Freyvogel.  They changed the engine tune for this morning's run and apparently went the wrong way, cuz they fired off a lotta shots at ducks and other fowl, but came up short on their record return.  Back to square one."
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 14, 2013, 02:20:44 PM
Amo-Steele facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/amosteele.racing (https://www.facebook.com/amosteele.racing)

Mike
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 02:44:29 PM
The Dalton, Jackson & Mayer A/BFStreamliner just ran, going after Al Teague's record of 409.998 and went out the back door at 340.  Still got a way to go.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Bob Drury on August 14, 2013, 03:12:20 PM
  Ray, in ref to your post #442, The Treit & Davenport streamliner is built to run both motors coupled  or both motors separate and with either RWD, FWD only, or 4WD.
  This is possible because the rear motor is coupled to the rear end after passing thru a B&J 4spd transmission and belt drive gearbox which can/does transfer power to the "idler"  power shaft that runs 25 feat +or- to a similar belt gear box that centers back up to the front differential.
  The front motor faces forward (as does the rear motor) and sends power through its B&J 4spd trans to a third belt drive gearbox and ties into the power shaft.
  The different configurations are accomplished by adding or removing gilmer (blower) belts and/or removing the rear drive shaft.
  Incidently, Les Davenport built a throttle pedal which can feather either engine independently from the other simply by the driver rotating his ankle applying more foot pressure to either side of the pedal.  It, like the rest of the car is amazing.            Bob
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SaltPeter on August 14, 2013, 03:21:48 PM

I just found this on SCTA Results

3419B    250CC     M-BG       Scott Guthrie Racing    206.125    212.339    220.295    210.383    214.368    220.295

Is this right :? :?

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 03:37:24 PM
  Ray, in ref to your post #442, The Treit & Davenport streamliner is built to run both motors coupled  or both motors separate and with either RWD, FWD only, or 4WD.
  This is possible because the rear motor is coupled to the rear end after passing thru a B&J 4spd transmission and belt drive gearbox which can/does transfer power to the "idler"  power shaft that runs 25 feat +or- to a similar belt gear box that centers back up to the front differential.
  The front motor faces forward (as does the rear motor) and sends power through its B&J 4spd trans to a third belt drive gearbox and ties into the power shaft.
  The different configurations are accomplished by adding or removing gilmer (blower) belts and/or removing the rear drive shaft.
  Incidently, Les Davenport built a throttle pedal which can feather either engine independently from the other simply by the driver rotating his ankle applying more foot pressure to either side of the pedal.  It, like the rest of the car is amazing.            Bob

Yes, you're absolutely right...but the only configuration that I'm aware of having been tested is the coupled one.  Personally, I'd prefer driving a coupled configuration...but I know Les has a lot more experience than I do.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 03:39:34 PM
Dang, I need to talk to these blown 2 stroke guys about oil pump for turbo!!!!!  Anyone know them?

Jim, I just ran into 'em and told 'em what you're asking for.  They told me they'd send ya a PM.  So yer covered.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 14, 2013, 03:40:29 PM

I just found this on SCTA Results

3419B    250CC     M-BG       Scott Guthrie Racing    206.125    212.339    220.295    210.383    214.368    220.295

Is this right :? :?

Pete


I'm going to go out on a limb and say no - that's not right.

I saw a pic of John Levie on a SGR turbo Busa at one point, perhaps the paperwork got mixed up.

If I'm wrong, I'll apologize and eat my helmet.

Dean
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
Dean, I don't think ya need to get quite that drastic...I found bikes 3411 and 3412 pre-entered for Scott Guthrie Racing, but that's all that's in the program. 

Anyway, as I stepped outta my Burb to get a shot of the Speed Demon, I was assaulted by an aircraft doing a low level fly-over...I wasn't quite ready for it.

However, I waited and waited and visited with Bonneville Bill while the Demon sat at the starting line for quite a while.

While that was going on, several other cars made runs, including the #235 Le Levant I/GLakester and

The #1936 "Bonneville Bob" AA/GRMRoadster. 

A little more in the next post.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Plmkrze on August 14, 2013, 04:05:31 PM
Thanks for posting the pic of 158 Iron Dinasour!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

If you see Don Gilmore tell him PLM KRZE Paul said to GO FAST, BE SAFE and HAVE FUN!!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SaltPeter on August 14, 2013, 04:08:11 PM

I just found this on SCTA Results

3419B    250CC     M-BG       Scott Guthrie Racing    206.125    212.339    220.295    210.383    214.368    220.295

Is this right :? :?

Pete




I'm going to go out on a limb and say no - that's not right.

I saw a pic of John Levie on a SGR turbo Busa at one point, perhaps the paperwork got mixed up.

If I'm wrong, I'll apologize and eat my helmet.

Dean


If it is correct then I just found my new way to go 200  :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kix on August 14, 2013, 04:10:11 PM
In regards to the SCTA web site live audio broadcast I have coupe of comments, one Ron who has been doing the radio announcing does an excellent job for many years and knows our race cars and drivers, but the new guy Harold just does not have that background and says some to the silliest things on the air about BLM and other things, today I heard him say that on Wed. night the Bonneville 200 MPH club is having a banquet and all racers and spectators are welcome, just go to the Bonneville 200 MPH club booth and buy the tickets for $35 each, well if that true its news to me, I'm a member of the 200 MPH club and in the past if you wanted to attend the banquet a 200 MPH member would have to sponsor you and buy the tickets for you to attend and the banquet has limited setting too, so this news to me check out before Wed. Night , thanks for your time, Dave  :cheers:  PS, can we get Glen back to do the announcing!!!!!

I hate to say it, but the broadcast has really been a disappointment....  and I was on the salt... so I can't imagine how it was listening on the internet.  They are getting better as the week goes on... and I'm all about continuous improvement... so I'll offer to donate one of my rule books so the new guy can learn to decipher the class designations and such.  Maybe Ray could put together a pictorial representation of cars from each of the classes so he knows what he is talking about when he sees it?

I would suggest you stick more to the facts, like Glenn did... it worked for many years.  A little color is nice, but there were countless times when we waited for hours to see a certain car... and the announcers didn't even know it ever went down the track because they were waxing nostalgic about something nobody cared about.  I would also suggest that we aren't all able to decipher who car "444 something" is.... but we would all know what you were talking about if you told us that Jimmy Barton just went around at 260mph in Wayne Jesel's truck.

Also, maybe the new guy can keep the giggles, and tounge-in-cheek slurs to yourself...  I don't personally have any less respect for a guy that builds a vintage engined motorcycle and races it for five years to reach 70mph, than I do for George Poteet.  Maybe more, because that guy probably doesn't have millions of dollars to pay a full time crew like Goerge.  And unless you have worked your arse off every night after work, passed on weekend fun and vacations, worn out your friends and family... and finally got that record you've been chasing... you have no idea what its like, and no right to opine on anyone's efforts on the salt.  If you want respect, show some.

Just my $.02

Kix
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
Continuing the Speed Demon story, it was first pushed back from the starting line and eventually taken back to the pits.

But the #911 roadster came up next and had a hard time getting it started...but eventually did, but running at about 280 (don't trust my memory) at the 4.  We were wondering why he hadn't gone to the 5, and then we remembered that the car only has enough fuel to run to the 4.  Mystery solved.  Sounded as good as ever.

I just heard that they're gonna be makin another run shortly.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 04:20:23 PM
Maybe Ray could put together a pictorial representation of cars from each of the classes so he knows what he is talking about when he sees it?

It's already in the program.  If that doesn't help...well, my photos won't, either.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 14, 2013, 04:23:39 PM
Ray do you know if the turbinator II is in line to make a pass today.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 14, 2013, 04:25:16 PM
In regards to the SCTA web site live audio broadcast I have coupe of comments, one Ron who has been doing the radio announcing does an excellent job for many years and knows our race cars and drivers, but the new guy Harold just does not have that background and says some to the silliest things on the air about BLM and other things, today I heard him say that on Wed. night the Bonneville 200 MPH club is having a banquet and all racers and spectators are welcome, just go to the Bonneville 200 MPH club booth and buy the tickets for $35 each, well if that true its news to me, I'm a member of the 200 MPH club and in the past if you wanted to attend the banquet a 200 MPH member would have to sponsor you and buy the tickets for you to attend and the banquet has limited setting too, so this news to me check out before Wed. Night , thanks for your time, Dave  :cheers:  PS, can we get Glen back to do the announcing!!!!!

I hate to say it, but the broadcast has really been a disappointment....  and I was on the salt... so I can't imagine how it was listening on the internet.  They are getting better as the week goes on... and I'm all about continuous improvement... so I'll offer to donate one of my rule books so the new guy can learn to decipher the class designations and such.  Maybe Ray could put together a pictorial representation of cars from each of the classes so he knows what he is talking about when he sees it?

I would suggest you stick more to the facts, like Glenn did... it worked for many years.  A little color is nice, but there were countless times when we waited for hours to see a certain car... and the announcers didn't even know it ever went down the track because they were waxing nostalgic about something nobody cared about.  I would also suggest that we aren't all able to decipher who car "444 something" is.... but we would all know what you were talking about if you told us that Jimmy Barton just went around at 260mph in Wayne Jesel's truck.

Also, maybe the new guy can keep the giggles, and tounge-in-cheek slurs to yourself...  I don't personally have any less respect for a guy that builds a vintage engined motorcycle and races it for five years to reach 70mph, than I do for George Poteet.  Maybe more, because that guy probably doesn't have millions of dollars to pay a full time crew like Goerge.  And unless you have worked your arse off every night after work, passed on weekend fun and vacations, worn out your friends and family... and finally got that record you've been chasing... you have no idea what its like, and no right to opine on anyone's efforts on the salt.  If you want respect, show some.

Just my $.02

Kix

Agree 100%. We had so much trouble with the FM on the salt we turned it down and kept the CB up. When I got home I tried to get it to stream and would get 30 seconds then it would drop. Guess I am lucky, when I lost the signal I didn't have to listen to the inaccurate drivel. Find new announcers!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 04:25:26 PM
Some news about the 3838 Corvette.  They've sustained some drivetrain damage which results from (quoting Rob Freyvogel) "too much horsepower."  It's still drivable for some licensing passes, but not for competition.
 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 14, 2013, 04:26:38 PM
Some news about the 3838 Corvette.  They've sustained some drivetrain damage which results from (quoting Rob Freyvogel) "too much horsepower."  It's still drivable for some licensing passes, but not for competition.
 

Tough problem! Sorry to hear their efforts are done.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 04:34:32 PM
Ray do you know if the turbinator II is in line to make a pass today.

I haven't seen it.  I'm near the course 1 starting line, but there are only a coupla cars there and only a few more for course 2.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 14, 2013, 04:46:11 PM
Public sale of 2 Club Banquet tickets is in fact TRUE.

I still owe them $1.00.

I am unsponsored and attending.

I gotta hear Pork Pie's story.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 14, 2013, 04:48:03 PM
Public sale of 2 Club Banquet tickets is in fact TRUE.

I still owe them $1.00.

I am unsponsored and attending.

I gotta hear Pork Pie's story.

FREUD

Had a whirlwind trip but was happy to once again shake your hand! 8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: AJR192 on August 14, 2013, 04:58:54 PM
Ray, the jet coulda been the BLM on patrol. Drones are next. Watch yer backside.........
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
Ray, the jet coulda been the BLM on patrol. Drones are next. Watch yer backside.........


LOL!  Thanks for the tip. 

Some more info on the 1238 Richmond and Stark liner.  It's 4wd, but not coupled.  Additionally, the throttles are not split...so ya got split drive lines, but a common throttle. 

When they made their last pass, the rear engine was spewing raw fuel out the exhaust and the rear wheel wells filled with salt.  They just towed back to the pits for further work.


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 14, 2013, 05:26:12 PM
Thanks for all the really nice photos, Ray. Good job on reporting the activities, too.

Did anyone take a picture of the car that Stainless was driving after it crashed? I'm glad that he and JH both came out of their "events" in good shape, considering the severity of the crashes. Looking at pictures of this type of damage gives one an idea of the magnitude and vectors of the forces involved in high-speed crashes.

Regards, Neil  back home in Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 05:28:31 PM
Just in:  Course 1 will be closed at 5pm today for "maintenance"; course 3 will close down at the end of the day, any qualifiers on that course will make record returns on course 2.

Tomorrow will be the last full day of racing (duh...I'd lost track) and qualifying for a next-day record return.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RZ350 on August 14, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
Thank you so much to Ray, Slim and all the others for the pics and updates!!!!! You all rule!!!!!!
 :cheers:

Thank you all.  I'm gonna make a blatant plea for donations direct to my primary website: http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html) since I seem to be the only one posting ANYTHING from the salt.  I'll be back in the morning and we'll find out what's happened to whom and who does what.  I've gotta show up at Salt Talks for a while, but I'll post photos from impound and a coupla speed shots later this evening.



Sent ya some $$$, I wish I could be on the salt to hand it to you in person, but too much other way less fun stuff going on!!!!! ;)

Keep up the good work!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 14, 2013, 06:50:16 PM
Sumner and Hooley, announcer said it was a charger type looking car.  haha.   B license 2 1/4-188, 3-186
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Bob Drury on August 14, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
 Ray, you are doing a great job and I will be sending you a donation tomorrow.
  One more note and not trying to be critical, but the 911 roadster ran 295 on a five mile pass Sun or Mon.
  They are running a C motor (373 c.i. max vs 500 c.i. max) to do it (a trick learned from the BRM/Fogie driven roadster).
  Believe me, anyone who is running back and forth on the Salt with no shade all day, every day is a Hero in my book, and you are a HERO RAY !!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 14, 2013, 07:58:22 PM
Are they done for the day. there is no more audio comming from the stream. did the turbinator II ever get to run or not. at one point the guys where talking about the car and then the stream started buffering like it has all day. today was the worst it has been. so i never heard if the car ran or not. i lost count of how many times i had to refresh to get the stream back. hope tomorrow is a better day for streaming. i have one question when you are at the salt watching the racing are you allowed to watch the cars from any where on the course IE if you want to sit in your car down course say at the 2,3 or 4 mile and see the cars at speed is that ok.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WZ JUNK on August 14, 2013, 08:01:02 PM
Sumner just got his A license with a run of around 213 mph.  That at least 4 runs today.  The most we have ever had I believe.  Good job guys.

John
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 14, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
One regret I had from this weekend was not introducing myself to Ray and Freud at the Salt Talks Saturday. Have to remedy that next year. Thanks ray and freud for all you do.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Saltfever on August 14, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
Robbie, glad to hear you are OK and that you get the parts needed tomorrow to fix one of the highest record setting race cars on the lakes venues!

I certainly agree with that. They have an incredible record but somehow their achievements are missed by many. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 14, 2013, 08:09:06 PM
Usually spectators can see the cars go by a high speed at the end of the pits,(towards floating Mountain)  that is near the 4 mile point on course 1.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kansas Bad Man on August 14, 2013, 08:12:21 PM
In deed!

Interesting course conditions...Jon said its predominately smooth and hard not soft and damp...they were 232 middle mile yesterday with 246 last mile, today 246 in middle mile, then crash....

Jon watched video....rolled at least 16 times...stainless seemed to think he stayed conscious throughout...cage intact, car completely totalled....many more details... ill hold back on for Jon and others to add as they see fit


Mike


A quick Stainless update.

Just talked to him.  He's doing well at the hotel in Wendover.  Plans to head back to Wichita in the morning with the remains of the race car in tow.  Our plans haven't changed.  I'll be towing the boxcar on the flatbed trailer, and he'll be towing my streamliner with his dually to attend the WOS.  After that we'll be staying over and I'll be running my Vincent streamliner at the Mike Cook Shootout.  They cut Stainless' fire suit off, so he'll be needing a fire suit as he plans to pilot the boxcar.  He sounded in good spirits.  Mentioned he had a black eye, and is a bit sore.  

                                   Max  
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 14, 2013, 08:16:20 PM
One regret I had from this weekend was not introducing myself to Ray and Freud at the Salt Talks Saturday. Have to remedy that next year. Thanks ray and freud for all you do.

Frankie, come to WoS in a few weeks and you can probably meet both of them.....and me as well!!!!
Ray should be there doing the wonderful job he does and Triet's liner should be there as well with (I hope) the good Dr. Freud.
Also, Jon (SSS) I think is planning a Salt Talks II so there will be more folks for you to meet! My offer is still open to him to help with the setup.

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 14, 2013, 08:19:54 PM
Max,
Many thanks for the update on Stainless. I look forward to meeting you guys at the WoS.  :cheers:

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Calkins on August 14, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
I have been laying low on here the past few years.  This year, I had the chance to join a group of older gentlemen from Iowa, and I was able to finally visit the salt for the first time.  After probably seven years of trash talking and mind picking back and forth with Chris Gilinsky, I finally got the meet the beast known as Jonny Hotnuts Saturday morning.  I am so very glad that he was able to jump up (probably flip the bird) and brush himself off after such a horrible crash.  I was on the front row at about the 2.5, and seen it all.  It scared the Subaru out of me.  I also witnesses the Hammond spin.  Can that lady drive, or what?  Great job!!

I hope everyone had as much fun as I had.  For those still out there, be safe all, and go fast!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Papi on August 14, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Ray- It was great to see you on our way to the line.
Thank you for everything you do and your dedication. Best, -Papi
 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Luckyontheducky on August 14, 2013, 09:54:19 PM
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A quick Stainless update.

Just talked to him.  He's doing well at the hotel in Wendover.  Plans to head back to Wichita in the morning with the remains of the race car in tow.  Our plans haven't changed.  I'll be towing the boxcar on the flatbed trailer, and he'll be towing my streamliner with his dually to attend the WOS.  After that we'll be staying over and I'll be running my Vincent streamliner at the Mike Cook Shootout.  They cut Stainless' fire suit off, so he'll be needing a fire suit as he plans to pilot the boxcar.  He sounded in good spirits.  Mentioned he had a black eye, and is a bit sore.  

                                   Max  

Max,  Did he say why did he needed 9 staples on the very top of his head? (A friend of ours forwarded me the pic).  Did his helmet split or did he crash the gurney as well?   :-D

Good luck with the Vincent, wish I could be there!

Todd
Savannah, Ga
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: robfstr on August 14, 2013, 10:19:47 PM
Ray do you know if the turbinator II is in line to make a pass today.

For Turbinator II progress go to Team Vesco web site, scroll to bottom of page and click on Twitter.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 14, 2013, 10:23:38 PM

A quick Stainless update.

Just talked to him.  He's doing well at the hotel in Wendover.  Plans to head back to Wichita in the morning with the remains of the race car in tow.  Our plans haven't changed.  I'll be towing the boxcar on the flatbed trailer, and he'll be towing my streamliner with his dually to attend the WOS.  After that we'll be staying over and I'll be running my Vincent streamliner at the Mike Cook Shootout.  They cut Stainless' fire suit off, so he'll be needing a fire suit as he plans to pilot the boxcar.  He sounded in good spirits.  Mentioned he had a black eye, and is a bit sore.  

                                   Max  


Great to hear that Stainless will be piloting again this season.

Best of luck to the whole team  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Eddieschopshop on August 14, 2013, 10:54:33 PM
Had a great SpeedWeek,  (although I did come home earlier than planned due to melted piston).  I was a rookie this year although I have helped a friend in the past.  Got nearly everything I had hoped to do accomplished.  Got licensed up to AA,  set a record albeit lower than my AA license would imply and had a great time.  New car, new driver,  new crew not a bad week.

Wanted to say Thanks to all who put on the event as well as all who helped us have a great week! 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 14, 2013, 11:14:16 PM

A quick Stainless update.

Just talked to him.  He's doing well at the hotel in Wendover.  Plans to head back to Wichita in the morning with the remains of the race car in tow.  Our plans haven't changed.  I'll be towing the boxcar on the flatbed trailer, and he'll be towing my streamliner with his dually to attend the WOS.  After that we'll be staying over and I'll be running my Vincent streamliner at the Mike Cook Shootout.  They cut Stainless' fire suit off, so he'll be needing a fire suit as he plans to pilot the boxcar.  He sounded in good spirits.  Mentioned he had a black eye, and is a bit sore. 

                                   Max 


Great to hear that Stainless will be piloting again this season.

Best of luck to the whole team  :cheers:

I just got back from the 2 Club Award dinner.  Stainless was there, and while he's got one hell of a shiner and is sore all over, he's with us.  Thank God.

To everyone who has has had kind words and made contributions, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.  (No, I haven't been drinking...LOL!)  I'm just very grateful to you all.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Hot Rod Lincoln on August 14, 2013, 11:38:50 PM
Had a great SpeedWeek,  (although I did come home earlier than planned due to melted piston).  I was a rookie this year although I have helped a friend in the past.  Got nearly everything I had hoped to do accomplished.  Got licensed up to AA,  set a record albeit lower than my AA license would imply and had a great time.  New car, new driver,  new crew not a bad week.

Wanted to say Thanks to all who put on the event as well as all who helped us have a great week! 

Congrats... what class record did you knock off ?

nice on the AA license  8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 14, 2013, 11:53:41 PM
Hi Justin.  It is good to see you back on the forum.

Any useful info for us BUB guys and gals would be helpful with respect to the course.  Does it appear to be a problem in a few localized areas or is the salt somehow different this year?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Saltfever on August 15, 2013, 12:40:03 AM
(edit. . . )
 i have one question when you are at the salt watching the racing are you allowed to watch the cars from any where on the course  IE if you want to sit in your car down course say at the 2,3 or 4 mile and see the cars at speed is that ok.
No. Spectators can go no farther than the limit line at the end of the pits. After that the only people out in "no mans land" must have either a driver or crew arm band. Usually the pits are so long the limit line is about the 3 mile or a little less. Further, for your vehicle to go past the limit line it must have a Pit Sticker displayed in the windshield. The DMZ is patrolled and they look for that stuff. Now after all that being said . . . it all depends. Saturday and Sunday is a festering cluster of humanity and the DMZ is carefully watched. By Monday the event starts to thin out and by Tuesday all volunteers are getting tired. About that time it gets kind of "looser" out there and by Thursday there are so few people around nobody cares. All that is for the long course next to the pits. The other courses have less traffic (or people) and seem to have less patrol. However, with less people you also stand out easier. The best way is to volunteer and help somebody and buy your pit credentials.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on August 15, 2013, 01:13:43 AM
Stainless wanted to make the 2 club dinner so we all could thank Pork Pie for making the Bockscar crew proud of the job he did driving the car last year. The first open wheel car to go over 200 mph with only 60ci on gas. He did a great job. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: John Noonan on August 15, 2013, 01:50:18 AM

I just found this on SCTA Results

3419B    250CC     M-BG       Scott Guthrie Racing    206.125    212.339    220.295    210.383    214.368    220.295

Is this right :? :?

Pete


I'm going to go out on a limb and say no - that's not right.

I saw a pic of John Levie on a SGR turbo Busa at one point, perhaps the paperwork got mixed up.

If I'm wrong, I'll apologize and eat my helmet.

Dean

If a 2,000cc Blown Hayabusa is only running 220mph unfaired they better turn it up!  Get after it Scott and team.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 08:22:48 AM
Good morning racers and crews, good luck out there on the salt, lets hope the courses hold speed better! any word on car #111 Vesco Turbinator streamliner, will it make a pass today, and what year was the last time it raced on the salt, thanks Dave  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 09:01:17 AM
Good morning racers and crews, good luck out there on the salt, lets hope the courses hold speed better! any word on car #111 Vesco Turbinator streamliner, will it make a pass today, and what year was the last time it raced on the salt, thanks Dave  :cheers:

I bleeve that the last time it ran was 2001.  I could be off a little on that, but it's close. 

From their latest Tweet, they say that they fired the motor yesterday and are evaluating the data.  If that's good, they'll give it a run.

More info here: http://www.teamvesco.com/vesco111.html (http://www.teamvesco.com/vesco111.html)

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 09:30:42 AM
Thanks Ray for that update and all that you do for us racers stuck at home, wish I was there and everyone have a safe trip home, and to all the volunteers thank you for putting the best race on planet earth.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 10:29:21 AM
Speed Demon getting ready to go on course no!, heads up
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 15, 2013, 10:31:03 AM
Speed Demon getting ready to go on course no!, heads up

436 mile 5, 448 out the back...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 15, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
Speed Demon, 2 1/4-333, 3- 355, 4-403, 5- 436, ext. 448
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug on August 15, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
Speed Demon, 2 1/4-333, 3- 355, 4-403, 5- 436, ext. 448
448 exit speed
You would think those guys announcing that would be a little bit excited. Ughh.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 10:35:21 AM
Not much happening here except that Speed Demon just ran with a 448.642 exit speed.  They may get a record yet.

Seems like we have several speed reporters.  Kool!  I won't worry about it, then.


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 10:37:30 AM
Congrats to Speed Demon (car #7151) on course no. 1, they just did 3mile= 355.04 4=403.97 5= 436.146mph and exit speed of 448.942 so it was still accelerating and got good traction, so they will make they backup pass in the morning, good driving George and congratulations  :cheers:

PS folks I think this is with the small "D" (305 ci) engine, amazing!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 15, 2013, 10:47:19 AM
I could be mistaken but I think they are running in b-class with a 388 motor. Maybe Ray can correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 15, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
car 7800 going after Al Teagues record.  2 1/4-290, 3-299, chute out.  They said that is sounded like he was in and out of the throttle and that it might have missed a gear?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
I think when Speed Demon ran as car #715 when they had a "B" engine in it, but I think they did blow that motor, then put the "D" engine in and changed the car to #7151.  :?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 11:18:22 AM
I could be mistaken but I think they are running in b-class with a 388 motor. Maybe Ray can correct me if I am wrong.

I think you're right, Mark.  I just heard that they'd cooked a coupla pistons in the B motor, but took it apart and replaced 'em.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 15, 2013, 11:24:08 AM
Ya Ray. Plus I think they had another extra b-motor with them. Like I said, I could be mistaken, which I am a lot of times. Some thing about getting old.
P.S. I think they took the D-motor out after they made a couple of runs on it.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SPARKY on August 15, 2013, 11:24:30 AM
it is reported that the 636 Camaro is back in impound---if so that is 2 down and one to go for the BC team---do I see a class change in the works---if it's  ProCharger blow through  BBC is still healthy. :roll:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Ray and Mark, thanks for the update on Speed Demon's engine size for that run, Dave :oops:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 15, 2013, 11:39:16 AM
Ray and Mark, thanks for the update on Speed Demon's engine size for that run, Dave :oops:

Your welcome Dave. 8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: hotrod on August 15, 2013, 11:49:59 AM
Morning all!
I just got home, had to come home to go to work but had a good time all things considered.

I had a close up view of both the Johnny Hotnuts and the Amo-Steele incidents. Both drivers are very lucky that the safety equipment the SCTA insists on did its job.
So glad to hear Johnny and Stainless are ok, I was really worried when I saw the situations unfold.

I personally embargo all crash related pictures except for the car owners and the technical staff from the SCTA, those crash images have already been passed on to the SCTA for their evaluation.

The following picture of the Amo-Steel streamliner was taken almost exactly 2 seconds before the car got sideways.

From my vantage point viewing the car directly from the side I saw no hint of a problem right up until the last moment, it seemed to be running "hot straight and true" as the old navy guys used to say about a torpedo.

It happened very fast and stainless got the chute out as quickly as any human could be expected to react when things went south.

If you guys want copies of the crash images let me know by PM and I will get you full resolution images for your analysis.

Larry
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 15, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
Very cool to here the local guys ( red Camaro 636 ) are back in impound. Thanks for the update Sparky!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 15, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
Larry:

Wow what a difference 2 seconds will make. Looks like a good pass in that frame.

I respect your embargo on the later images. They are far more valuable to the right people analyzing what happened and how to make things safer than some gauwkers looking at the pics on the internet. All that matters is that the safety equipment did its job and the drivers are ok. It is also nice that you witnessed the chute release on Stainless's car. That's always a Monday Morning Q back remark..."if the just pulled the chute." What people that don't do this fail to understand is at Bonneville speeds the mind is always playing catch up. A lot happens in the 1/4 to 1/2 second it takes our minds to process and our hands to react when a car is going 440 ft. a second.

Stainless and Johnny glad you are ok. Larry thanks for the update.

BR

Morning all!
I just got home, had to come home to go to work but had a good time all things considered.

I had a close up view of both the Johnny Hotnuts and the Amo-Steel incidents. Both drivers are very lucky that the safety equipment the SCTA insists on did its job.
So glad to hear Johnny and Stainless are ok, I was really worried when I saw the situations unfold.

I personally embargo all crash related pictures except for the car owners and the technical staff from the SCTA, those crash images have already been passed on to the SCTA for their evaluation.

The following picture of the Amo-Steel streamliner was taken almost exactly 2 seconds before the car got sideways.

From my vantage point viewing the car directly from the side I saw no hint of a problem right up until the last moment, it seemed to be running "hot straight and true" as the old navy guys used to say about a torpedo.

It happened very fast and stainless got the chute out as quickly as any human could be expected to react when things went south.

If you guys want copies of the crash images let me know by PM and I will get you full resolution images for your analysis.

Larry
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
I don't really don't have experience in streamliners, just in coupe/sedans at 216mph, but looking at the picture of streamliner #1411 F/FS that crashed, Question would be would the streamliner be more stable if the rear wheels were moved farther to the rear of car, its just looks like a lot of leverage on the car if it gets just a little sideways, then thus the spin, just a thought and I'm probably wrong! What do you guys think? Dave
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 15, 2013, 12:26:30 PM
Go Team Vesco!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: hotrod on August 15, 2013, 12:48:22 PM
I should probably clarify, my reference to "if you guys" want images was directed at the car owners of the cars involved in those incidents.

After I have talked to them I "might" consider making copies available (under a tightly controlled usage stipulation) to other bonneville car owners (I have received a couple of requests from other car owners) on a request by request basis.
The initial embargo applies to everyone except the owner/builders of the specific cars involved and the SCTA technical staff.

I first got into photography of the bonneville cars (although I have been doing photography for almost 50 years) to do my homework to in the future possibly build a car myself.
As a result my primary focus has always been physical systems and operations of the cars and driver safety rather than "artsy" photos or the cars.
I do take beauty shots now when the opportunity shows itself, but I also take lots and lots of documentary shots of the cars on the course and in the pits to document construction details and what the cars are doing at speed.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 15, 2013, 12:51:13 PM
Thanks for clarifying hotrod. Good luck with your photos.  8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
After a bit of a delay, I finally have a few more photos to post.

The Dalton-Jackson-Mayer liner,

"Fast Freddy" on course 1 (shot from course 2),

The Four Aces/Dave Frost Triumph 500,

And a bike that I have no info on.


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Liberatore on August 15, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
A BIG thanks from all of us that can't be there, Ray, Ron, Harold,and The SCTA are doing a fantastic job of filling us all in on the goings on at Speedweek. Anyone that doesn't think so might try to remember how spotty coverage was just a few years ago, we are very grateful for what you have been able to accomplish. Also thanks to everyone that figured out how to do this, SSS, Chris, and the rest, in spite of the grumbles that you may hear, most of us are really digging it!  Tom - Pepperoni Bros.  See you at WOS! :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 15, 2013, 01:13:58 PM
Sorry off subject but just want to say hi to ZZCRUZIN Mark, your just a youn'ng I'm 74 yrs old, I see you live in Reseda, I live in Canyon Country, give me a phone call and stop my and see my Bonneville Avanti, take care, Dave Bloomberg (661) 251-6969

PS, my car is race ready for D/CBGC and is SCTA legal for 2013, 800hp turbo engine car for sale $45K top speed so far 216mph.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
A few more:

The Black Creek Racing 1953 Ford pickup,

A fixed-wing, low-altitude flyover ('m still keepin an eye open for the drones and black helicopters),

The Bean Bandits flathead lakester and

the B.M.C. Racing street roadster.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SPARKY on August 15, 2013, 01:48:25 PM
GO FREDDY GO
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug odom on August 15, 2013, 01:56:43 PM
I would be interested in how Stainless got his black eye.
 When I tipped our modified sports over at El Mirage I got mine from my helmet cheek pads pushing the lens out of my glasses.
 As I kept turning over and bouncing along the lens beat the heck out of my face.
I now wear a much smaller pair of glasses under my helmet.
I just wonder if the same thing happened to him.
Doug Odom in Big Ditch
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 15, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
Sorry off subject but just want to say hi to ZZCRUZIN Mark, your just a youn'ng I'm 74 yrs old, I see you live in Reseda, I live in Canyon Country, give me a phone call and stop my and see my Bonneville Avanti, take care, Dave Bloomberg (661) 251-6969

PS, my car is race ready for D/CBGC and is SCTA legal for 2013, 800hp turbo engine car for sale $45K top speed so far 216mph.

Hey Dave. I will give you a call a little later this evening. Mark.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 15, 2013, 02:04:19 PM
Ray:

The drones are the size of flys now. You won't notice them. The fixed wings are just a distraction to get you to look up while the missile arrives at your back. Don't worry the government will keep you safe as long as you don't bother it. No I am not paranoid....but who's asking?

BR
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: CTRon on August 15, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
Is fast freddys liner a new car? Or is it his old lakester converted to a liner?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 02:32:56 PM
Bill: Even paranoids have enemies...ya gotta keep the tinfoil in yer hat fresh.

CTRon: From what I gathered in talking to him, it's a new car...but he wasn't really specific on that...and my memory sux.  (Not enough tinfoil.)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 02:38:00 PM
Richmond/Stark liner:  They'd had a few problems but told me they had 'em fixed.  They got it running on both motors with a pushoff and sounded really good.  They ran 231 on a licensing pass.  There's some question if that was the right speed for the license they were shooting for, but we'll have to wait for more info on that.

Photos:

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: racefanwfo on August 15, 2013, 02:50:07 PM
Did anyone else lose the stream. It has been good all morning and just a little bit ago it went away and it says its offline. I have been trying to refresh but no go. The stream just came back.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
The long-awaited Turbinator:

It seems to have been awaited by every photographer left on the salt.

Whoops, there were more...

Finally under way and away from photogs but...

...there was this SCTA vehicle pacing it, so Dave Spangler did as planned, shut down around the 1 mile (wild guess.)  But it ran and without any apparent problems.

According to the team's latest tweet (https://twitter.com/teamvesco (https://twitter.com/teamvesco))the car ran 235 mph.  They're analyzing the data from their collection systems...let's hope it's good and they can make it back out this afternoon.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 15, 2013, 02:54:13 PM
Ray:

Have you seen any of these? Might need a metallic suit!


Bill: Even paranoids have enemies...ya gotta keep the tinfoil in yer hat fresh.

CTRon: From what I gathered in talking to him, it's a new car...but he wasn't really specific on that...and my memory sux.  (Not enough tinfoil.)

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 03:08:16 PM
Ray:

Have you seen any of these? Might need a metallic suit!


Bill: Even paranoids have enemies...ya gotta keep the tinfoil in yer hat fresh.

CTRon: From what I gathered in talking to him, it's a new car...but he wasn't really specific on that...and my memory sux.  (Not enough tinfoil.)


Yeah, but there seems to be a difference of opinion as to whether it's a concept drawing or "fer reel" or "fauxtography."
http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/insectdrone.asp (http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/insectdrone.asp)

If they're fer reel, I kilt 2 of' em in my motel room last nite.  :)

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 15, 2013, 03:12:45 PM
Hey 'person', your "PRESS" vest is on backward. Ray, THANKS for the pix, even though fools are getting in your way. I will get some coin headed your way after the HAMB DRAGS this weekend.

Chris Nelson
Kansas

The long-awaited Turbinator:

It seems to have been awaited by every photographer left on the salt.

Whoops, there were more...

Finally under way and away from photogs but...

...there was this SCTA vehicle pacing it, so Dave Spangler did as planned, shut down around the 1 mile (wild guess.)  But it ran and without any apparent problems.

According to the team's latest tweet (https://twitter.com/teamvesco (https://twitter.com/teamvesco))the car ran 235 mph.  They're analyzing the data from their collection systems...let's hope it's good and they can make it back out this afternoon.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 03:42:01 PM
Hey 'person', your "PRESS" vest is on backward. Ray, THANKS for the pix, even though fools are getting in your way. I will get some coin headed your way after the HAMB DRAGS this weekend.

Chris Nelson
Kansas

Didja notice the flip-flops on his feet?  Great way to get hurt. 

Enjoy the HAMB drags, man.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 15, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
Is fast freddys liner a new car? Or is it his old lakester converted to a liner?

  New car, built at his shop in Prescott Az. in 1 year :-o

  Skin was done in Texas at George Fields shop.

  Any times on Freddy's last pass?

              JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Jawno on August 15, 2013, 03:48:16 PM
Tin Foil? Well, that's my problem. All this time I've been using aluminum foil. :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 15, 2013, 03:48:49 PM
I hve an all day meeting tomorrow and will not be able ot log on...so here is my 2 cents.

Ray and Slim thanks for the updates and photogs.

Chris 996 if you are out there it is time to disconnect the rev limiter and go for the last few MPH.

SCTA Volunteers, although the event is not as good from my vantage point this year, it still took a lot of work to put it on, keep the racing on the salt and keep our teams safe. Thank you.

Announcers, I appreciate your effort. There are some good observations here to make your show more of what the LSR people seem to want. But I appreciate you doing your best. With all do respect, if I ever qualify for a record I will track down Glen where ever he is and offer to buy him the largest breakfast plate at the truck stop if he will record in my phone... "Mr. Reilly take it to impound."  No offense but he is the icon.

To the teams that had bad luck, I wish them the best and look forward to seeing them back out later this year or next.

To the teams that set records or qualified for records, congratulations. You are the 1% of the 1% of us that participate.

Freud, you were kind of low key but I am sure you were working the pits and all four courses. I appreciate your wit and wisdom.

BR
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: theazoldcrow on August 15, 2013, 03:49:16 PM
Wear it on your head,,,,, don't chew it !
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 15, 2013, 03:58:30 PM
Hey -- remember me?  I'm the buy they call "Slim".  And I've been kinda letting youse folks take on the meet without me.  I see that Ray has been doing yeoman duty on keeping photos and other stuff here.  And Me?  I've been trying to race the Icebreaker (the old ZX12R with the Charlie Toy body and ice motif paint).  I'm not going to give you the full sad silly story of why it took 'til Wednesday to make my first run - that'll be later.  In the meantime, I did make run #2 of the event an hour ago.  And I might as well have been on a bicycle.  That is -- course #1 was slick enough the I had to pedal it for at least four miles.  I just couidn't get it to hook up worth a dang.  About the 4 1/2 I felt it was finally better so gave it a bit more throttle -- and therefore has a nice increase in the exit speed.  I was right around 157-158 for the first four miles, and 167 in that last mile -- 177 back door.  But wow, I was busy driving and throttling and watching the bars go back and forth as the back end of the bike would hook up and then spin and hook up and then spin.  I was watching the tach and thought that maybe I wasn't in top gear - that's how extra-high the revs seemed to be because of spinning it.  So I tried shifting -- no, I was in 6th.  Then I started wondering if all that spinning was going to hurt the rear tire - so I'd lift again 'til I figured it was once again working okay.

So I'll run course #2 tomorrow morning and hope for way better salt.  I'm not trying for any records -- just want to have the fun of riding the fast bike on the salt.  Let's see what I do in the morning, okay?

PS  If you feel like offering $$ to the site for the coverage, what there's been of it -- I'll thank you.  And for sure -- send a buck or three to Ray the Rat.  Whether you send it directly to him (I guess by mail, in a check form) or to landracing.com by using Paypal -- I'll see to it that what you mark as his portion gets to him.  He has been working hard and deserves a good pat on the back - and one in the wallet - for the efforts.

Later - -
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kix on August 15, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Nice to finally meet you on the salt Jon, keep it straight up!

Lot's of new people following along this year... maybe a quick reminder/tutorial on how we can contribute would be useful?

Kix
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: paso54 on August 15, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
Good to see your back out on the 12r slim good luck for tomorrow  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rlague on August 15, 2013, 04:23:34 PM
Jon,

I was wondering where you were hiding.  good to hear from you and good luck with that beast.

Dick
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 04:29:45 PM
Nice to finally meet you on the salt Jon, keep it straight up!

Lot's of new people following along this year... maybe a quick reminder/tutorial on how we can contribute would be useful?

Kix

Go to the top of the page and click on the "Donate" button.  Piece o' cake. 

And ya don't need to send a check to me...I have the same Donate setup on my main site: http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html)

Thanks again to those who have been so helpful already,

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Hot Rod Lincoln on August 15, 2013, 04:33:30 PM
I hve an all day meeting tomorrow and will not be able ot log on...so here is my 2 cents.



SCTA Volunteers, although the event is not as good from my vantage point this year, it still took a lot of work to put it on, keep the racing on the salt and keep our teams safe. Thank you.

Announcers, I appreciate your effort.
There are some good observations here to make your show more of what the LSR people seem to want. But I appreciate you doing your best. With all do respect, if I ever qualify for a record I will track down Glen where ever he is and offer to buy him the largest breakfast plate at the truck stop if he will record in my phone... "Mr. Reilly take it to impound."  No offense but he is the icon.



Been listening on and off this week at work. I too appreciate the effort. Our family is missing the salt this year.

Last year on Thursday Aug 16 at about 10:00 am I heard over race radio while headed down the chase road after my brother   "..... mile 3 Hot Rod Lincoln just ran a 165.423 on a 162.2 record. Hot Rod Lincoln you are clear to go to impound"  (It was our cars 4th full throttle run of the week)  It still puts a smile on my face.

Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Saltfever on August 15, 2013, 04:38:41 PM
Did anyone else lose the stream. It has been good all morning and just a little bit ago it went away and it says its offline.
It was good all day yesterday with only 2 or 3 refreshes! Today I have had to refresh constantly starting around noon Utah time. There have been some very long breaks in commentary today and the silence appears to be a broken link which is not the case. I caught myself reaching for the refresh a couple of times but increased the sound to hear the background noise and it was still streaming.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: tf737sb on August 15, 2013, 04:39:37 PM
Ray-
 Saw the pic off 44 this afternoon, do your remember the speed?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 15, 2013, 04:48:04 PM
Nice to finally meet you on the salt Jon, keep it straight up!

Lot's of new people following along this year... maybe a quick reminder/tutorial on how we can contribute would be useful?

Kix

Go to the top of the page and click on the "Donate" button.  Piece o' cake. 

And ya don't need to send a check to me...I have the same Donate setup on my main site: http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/Welcome.html)

Thanks again to those who have been so helpful already,



Thanks for everything, Ray--I sent a little something your way. And Jon, you and this great site are next on my list...

Gary
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sodbuster on August 15, 2013, 04:51:04 PM
SSS, I tried to 'record' your run on my iPhone, but the 'stream' site kept crashing.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 04:51:19 PM
Ray-
 Saw the pic off 44 this afternoon, do your remember the speed?

Man, after a week out here in the sun and fun I don't even remember if I got here this morning.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 05:10:38 PM
While I'm waiting to see if the Turbinator and the Richmond & Stark liners are gonna run again, here are some photos I shot a little while ago. 

I'm not gonna look 'em up in the program, cuz it's 107 in the shade (if you can find any) here and I'm just burned out.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 15, 2013, 05:20:28 PM
Is that the Flower of Scotlands first run ?

streaming is very intermittant again for me today  , appreciate all the updates here  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 05:32:09 PM
Is that the Flower of Scotlands first run ?

streaming is very intermittant again for me today  , appreciate all the updates here  :cheers:

Go here: http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/results_index.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/SpeedWeek%202013/results_index.html) and look for it in the run logs.  I thought I saw it earlier, but there's only one of me and for most of the week there have been 4 courses.



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 15, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
Four more photos and I tink I'm gonna be outta here.  I've been told that the Turbinator has found some problems with fuel feed (I have no idea how true this is) and "might" run again in the morning.

I'll be out to see if the Speed Demon continues its string of "one way" runs and if anyone else can contend for the Hot Rod trophy.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RZ350 on August 15, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
PS  If you feel like offering $$ to the site for the coverage, what there's been of it -- I'll thank you.  And for sure -- send a buck or three to Ray the Rat.  Whether you send it directly to him (I guess by mail, in a check form) or to landracing.com by using Paypal -- I'll see to it that what you mark as his portion gets to him.  He has been working hard and deserves a good pat on the back - and one in the wallet - for the efforts.

Later - -

Sent a few dollars to you Jon, keep up the good work on this site, and go fast!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 15, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
Dalton, Jackson & Mayer running A/BFS on Teague's 409 record ran a 364 at the 4 mile. No 5 mile speed. Long way to go.

Ran 382 in the 5 yesterday with a 369 in the 4.

It took Teague many years to hit 409.         
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on August 15, 2013, 06:19:04 PM
Just an update on ME!!!!

As some know I took a wild ride a few days ago. They ran me into SLC and were about to let me go when the guy asked what happened and was told that I rolled a car at about 200. The guy freaked and said it is protocol for all high speed crashes to have a neck brace/board and then taken to the UU trauma center for evaluation regardless of symptoms.

They kept me strapped to that Dodge board all night. When the trauma team seen me, they said 'yeah, that guy really jumped the gun HA, HA, but better for them to be safe then sorry'.

Long story short, the car is a wreck.....oh well, it was time to build another.
I have some black eyes from the G-forces, and a few bruises but other then having an ugly (er) face, I am in good shape.
 
Thanks for all the well wishes and support from my friends. Also a huge thanks to the crash crew at the salt. I was back at work today, fixing all sorts of problems.

~JH


BTW:

I was reading here at LR.COM that Stainless was at UU getting checked and I was going to pop in with my dress on and say hello. Turns out he was quicker to the gate then I was and had already split..





Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Saltfever on August 15, 2013, 06:21:13 PM
(The Green Demon Sprint Car in Ray's photo above)

The Green Demon is Damion Gardner. T/O and he is trying to record 200mph which would become the world’s fastest sprint car. Licensing runs went fine but yesterday he spun near 200 . . . today same story. He says at the top end the front hooks a rut and then the rear hooks a different rut which starts the spin. I think it is the typical 410 SBC Sprint motor. One gear only with in-out box!  Will try again tomorrow morning.

Nice professional video.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkB-79eW3o&sns=em

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 15, 2013, 06:33:18 PM
JH.....Thanks for the update and glad to hear you're doing OK.
Sorry about the car but at least you can be thankful and proud of the cage you built.
Be sure to start a thread in the Build Diary when you start your new project!

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Saltfever on August 15, 2013, 06:36:04 PM
Welcome back, Johnny and wish you all the best. Always enjoyed your build threads in the past but definitely looking forward to another one with your new “experience” factored in.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 15, 2013, 06:49:11 PM
JH, glad to hear the update. Gald I got the chance to meet you and see the car on Friday. Sparky has an Opal GT at his place if you are interested. Not sure what he wants for it but I could find out.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 15, 2013, 07:02:04 PM
(The Green Demon Sprint Car in Ray's photo above)

The Green Demon is Damion Gardner. T/O and he is trying to record 200mph which would become the world’s fastest sprint car. Licensing runs went fine but yesterday he spun near 200 . . . today same story. He says at the top end the front hooks a rut and then the rear hooks a different rut which starts the spin. I think it is the typical 410 SBC Sprint motor. One gear only with in-out box!  Will try again tomorrow morning.

Nice professional video.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkB-79eW3o&sns=em



Uh, that's how they drive them things!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kansas Bad Man on August 15, 2013, 07:02:49 PM
Morning all!
I just got home, had to come home to go to work but had a good time all things considered.

I had a close up view of both the Johnny Hotnuts and the Amo-Steele incidents. Both drivers are very lucky that the safety equipment the SCTA insists on did its job.
So glad to hear Johnny and Stainless are ok, I was really worried when I saw the situations unfold.

I personally embargo all crash related pictures except for the car owners and the technical staff from the SCTA, those crash images have already been passed on to the SCTA for their evaluation.

The following picture of the Amo-Steel streamliner was taken almost exactly 2 seconds before the car got sideways.

From my vantage point viewing the car directly from the side I saw no hint of a problem right up until the last moment, it seemed to be running "hot straight and true" as the old navy guys used to say about a torpedo.

It happened very fast and stainless got the chute out as quickly as any human could be expected to react when things went south.

If you guys want copies of the crash images let me know by PM and I will get you full resolution images for your analysis.

Larry


This is what Stainless told me.  He said that the run was straight and felt good prior to entering the five.  In a split second he saw a tire track groove going to his left.  He then felt the car following the groove to the left.  He had the car at full lock steering to the right.  The car didn't respond.  He hit the chute button.  He said that when he felt the chutes the car was already at a 45o to the track and too late for the chutes to prevent the crash.

                                    Max
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 15, 2013, 07:08:08 PM
Quote
the front hooks a rut and then the rear hooks a different rut which starts the spin.

I would assume that since it's a sprint car that he was going down the course sideways at full lock and the ruts straightened him out and spun him.  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 15, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
 
 SCTA/BNI has all kinds of safety rules but runs cars down a loose rutted course.
 It would be good to let the driver and crew of a high speed car be escorted by an official to check out the course conditions before making a pass. Following right after a car making a pass wouldn't hold things up.

  BNI needs to come up with a fast way to improve the courses during the day.

  Don't no much about the drags or how many, do they need more of them?

  Also on the drags they have [made from railroad tracks I believe] have they ever been sharpened or replaced.

  Can better or more wheel packers be utilized.

   I asked about this in the past and been told everything has been tried but did notice a toothed blade had been welded on a drag last year.

     JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Rcktscientist on August 15, 2013, 07:54:00 PM
JH, Gonna miss seeing your car, definitely unique. Duct tape won't fix this one. Glad you're OK and have a positive attitude. I have a '79 280ZX I'm trying to decide what to do with..... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: hotrod on August 15, 2013, 08:03:58 PM
I think it is a bit more complicated that just a more aggressive drag to groom the salt.

Until the salt thickness improves, they will have to find a balance between grooming the salt to a flat uniform surface and scraping all the salt away down to the hard pan clay trying to improve the surface. Out at the return road this year for course #2 at 3.5 miles the salt is only 1/4 - 3/8 inches thick.

Not much you can do about the course if you have to worry about completely destroying the salt surface to get it smooth.

For the near term, car owners will have to accept as a fact of life in this sport that the track will never be really smooth but more like a dirt track surface and they will need suspension geometries that resist following irregularities in the surface and allow for other considerations like weight on the steering wheels at speed when aero loads may be making them very light on the surface and cause them have limited ability to counter steer against outside influences like wind gusts or track irregularities.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: javajoe79 on August 15, 2013, 08:26:12 PM
So they pumped alot of brine back onto the salt this year right? Is it possible that the "new" salt can seem really good but actually be less dense then salt that has been sitting there for thousands of years? Is there any sort of durometer for salt?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 1212FBGS on August 15, 2013, 08:58:45 PM
well...... since we race on the "highest crown" of the evaporation basin, it is the first to dry out.... that's why we race there this early in the season..... that said, you should realize it is the highest point and it takes one crapload of salt to fill up the low spots before it will "ever" fill the area we race.... and since they don't pump it directly onto the area where we race, how long do you think its gonna take to put anything down? most of the area we race on out past the 3 has only had less than an inch of salt crust for many, many years..... Its funny how the pumps never break down when they pump the salt off the basin but fail when putting it back.... I think last year is the first year that the "pumps" didn't break down and stop the replenishing.... send your money to Save the salt !!!....
When I look at the SCTA-BNI run logs, it seems that lots of people made some pretty good passes, not as many records as previous years but I think every race vehicle that showed up had the same course to run on.......  Looks to me like cars that had questionable handling and steering this years surface compounded those problems.... if you had a good car you went good.... if your car sucked you got a spin pin..... I'm thinkin' the course was not 100% of the problem.....
Kent
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 15, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
Jonny, during the short silent interludes during the crash could you hear Segovia?

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 15, 2013, 09:30:45 PM
It seems that - starting with Tuesday's results - SCTA/BNI edited out the "comments", such as "spin".  On the results for the first three days, I counted 34 spins/crashes, or about 11 per day.  Seems like a lot.

Some cars (e.g. Poteet & Main) seemed to have no course-related problems whatsoever, regardless of their speed.    While I certainly wouldn't go so far as to say the cars that spun or crashed "sucked", it would appear that some cars have been less affected by the marginal course conditions than others. 

I do think that the design elements (rear-mounted "tail-hanger" engine or relatively short wheelbase with narrowed front track) of the two cars that crashed hard may have contributed to making it extremely difficult for the drivers to recover once they got into a bad situation.

I didn't witness Jonny's crash, but I did look at what was left of the vehicle afterwards.  I was quite close to Stainless's crash, which I viewed through binoculars.   It was horrific to say the least.   From what I saw, I'm amazed and very relieved that no serious injuries were inflicted.  Hopefully, we'll all learn from what has been experienced at this meet.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jimmy six on August 15, 2013, 09:43:12 PM
I'm sorry to say what they call what Damion is driving a sprint car. We watch him a lot since Perris is his home track. I may be able to call the high sides OK for safety but will never be able to accept the nose. It does have a Shaver 410 and has the power but if it makes 200 (I did see a 196 out the back) but that ain't no sprinter ...JD. Leaving for home in the morning
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 15, 2013, 10:19:05 PM
Jonny, during the short silent interludes during the crash could you hear Segovia?

FREUD

More likely the sound of a harp, Freud.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 15, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
At his level it may have been a one string banjo.

Just a plucker.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 15, 2013, 10:38:42 PM
Hot Rod... I'm just saying, BNI needs to look at improving the course any way they can.

  I've been preachin suspension for years and a lot needs to be learned [including me] about optimum shock and 4 bar setup, trouble is most books are for pavement and the several books I have don't do a good job of explaining what to change in loose conditions.

 Looks like Speed Demon has a handle on it but what could it do on a good course?

 Be interesting if they could apply as much early throttle as in past years.

 Kent..yea Save The Salt needs to get the salt on the course. They talk about all the TONS of salt, is water counted as part of the weight?

  From comparing some of the faster car times at the 21/4 from years past it looks like they just couldn't hook up.

  Really not much reporting on the salt conditions. But there was a video from the bike and Slims report which helped explain the loose coditions.

              JL222

  
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: hotrod on August 15, 2013, 11:04:16 PM
I think one of the issues is the way the salt cures from year to year and the drying conditions.

This year as many recall on Thursday and Friday, there were lots of areas where there was a top layer of "stick to your shoes" salt that was in the process of drying but was still too wet to cement to the layers below. As it dried out it got harder and to casual examination it appeared to be good hard consolodated salt again but I suspect that in that top layer it needs time to cross bond between the salt crystals after it "appears" to be ready to race, before it really bonds to lower layers and forms a cohesive layer. 

If that is the case it might behave similar to snow crust on top of a weak layer of snow and under high shear load (ie a car sliding) the weaker top layer breaks free sooner than you would expect and results in more tendency to spin for cars that are marginal.

Maybe it needs a bit more time to cure and cross bond especially on course #1 before we consider it "ready to race".

There is probably some research out there that would help figure out the proper drying conditions and time delays (much like curing concrete needs a period of time 28 days to cure to reach full strength after it sets -- I suspect the salt does too as it also is constructed of an interlocking matrix of crystals)

Maybe BNI needs to talk to some engineering schools and see if there are some bright graduate students who would be willing to do a paper or controlled studies of how to form a really firm hard racing surface after a late July or August wet down as we had this year?

It is common knowledge that the racing surface varies from year to year but why and how does that happen? Why in two apparently similar years you get different salt behavior and racing performance out of a surface that on casual inspection is ready to race on and hard and dry?

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 15, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
Here are a couple of things to ponder:

First of all, tonight was the Volunteer Party at the Wendover Community Center.  While there I learned that this event had about 550 entrants (pre-entries less no-shows/cancellations plus entries at the salt), of which about 330 were cars/trucks, 220 were bikes.  The were something like 146 new records set - but strangely enough, 96 or so were by bikes and the rest by cars/trucks.  The usual is just the opposite of that -- lots more car records than bikes. n I don't know why there's a difference and none was offered.

A few days ago I was talking with Mike Cook (who runs the Shootout).  He was telling Nancy and me that Intrepid, the mining company across the road, was chatting with him about the conditions way down at the freeway end of the international course -- the one that the Shootout uses.  The big pipe that spews the salty water back onto the course down there worked fine -- but since it was just one - the salt spread out from that one point.  The guy from Intrepid said to Mike something like "Hey, if you want it spread more evenly we'll just add a handful of new pipes along the dike.  And they did just that, and now that end of the course sure looks wonderful - 'specially when compared to last year.  At the Shootout in '12 the first mile or so looked like salty dirt - much brown, not much white.  It was back enough that many of the vehicles would start at the half mile or even farther down, forfeiting the extra length in exchange for better course.  They has less room to accelerate -- but made up for that lack by having a much smoother surface from which to start.  This year -- well, Nancy and I drove down there a couple of times, and it is, indeed, pretty good looking and solid white and pretty smooth, too.  And we didn't run into wet spots.  Last year, you might remember hearing that the water's edge was so close to the end of the course - that the Ack Attack bike chose not to run, expecting the conditions to be too bad for good racing.  So -- the salt spreading/pumping had APPARENTLY (that is, who can prove anything out there where Mother Nature is involved) has made a big difference.  I'll letcha know during the Shootout if things really are better.

And that's enough for now.  I made one run again today - and might have been on a bicycle.  The #1 course wasn't very good -- and I had to pedal the throttle for about 4 1/4 miles (ergo the bike comparison :-D).  I managed a 167 in the last mile - but the back door speed was 177.  See -- finally!  some traction.  Tomorrow I'll run on course #2 and see if it really is better.  There's no question that the start line is better at #2, though.  On the line at #1 there is mostly clean salt, but at the #2 line there are LOTS of black stripes left by spinning tires as the racer/push trucks left the line.  Take that for what it's worth, but I'll run #2 tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 15, 2013, 11:08:53 PM
So they pumped alot of brine back onto the salt this year right? Is it possible that the "new" salt can seem really good but actually be less dense then salt that has been sitting there for thousands of years? Is there any sort of durometer for salt?

The salt was flat as a pancake, they didn't even need to drag the return roads. Several folks have mentioned the mining pulling the potash out. Best quote I heard was "if you take one ingredient out of a cake it will not be the same" fwiw

tHIS IS ALL SPECULATION THAT I AM ONLY PASSING ON.  oops, caps lock.

Also, I did the sprinkler thing on the truck and had less sticky salt than ANY of my other years there!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 15, 2013, 11:33:06 PM
T-man, thanks for finding me..

I enjoyed being able to put a face to a name.

Again, a BIG THANKS.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Saltfever on August 16, 2013, 12:35:28 AM
One gear only with in-out box!

Uh, that's how they drive them things!
Sorry, T-Man I was making a subtle point. We have all stood on the line and heard a strong car with a 4-speed grunt and groan trying to pull away with LSR rear end ratios. Some never clean-out and shoot ducks for a mile before turning out. (5 & 6 speeds, with their very low starting gear don't seem to have the same problem). Think about it. If you use either 7,500 or 8,500 RPM, 200mph, and 28" Goodyears; Damion's rear gear is either a 3.10 or 3.54. That is a single high gear pull from 35 mph to 200 mph! That is not the same as a sprint car pull with 5.86s from 35 to 85mph. Maybe I'm easily impressed . . . I just thought his tuning and motor were interesting.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: ratpatrol66 on August 16, 2013, 01:00:18 AM
Freud,
Great to meet you, send my best to Marlo.

Craig
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 08:08:38 AM
Good morning racers, please let us know when Speed Demon makes his record pass this morning with his repaired B engine, I think his race # is 7151 instead of his original race number 715, is that true, have fun and be safe guys,  Dave  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Speed Demon is next car for course #1 heads up folks
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Buzz Lightbeer on August 16, 2013, 08:36:11 AM
Just caught the last bit of live streaming for Speed demon exit speed mile5, 451mph:-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 08:36:40 AM
Congrats to Speed Demon, mile 3= 353.582 mile 4=403.436 5= 438.226 exit= 451.933 that gives him an average around 437 for both runs, fantastic George and Ron  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
Later this morning after all the record runs have been made, Vesco turbinator streamliner is asking permission to make a run, that would be its second pass at this event, more to come that's official, not sure of my info, Dave
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 09:12:36 AM
Vesco Turbinator jet engine is warming up in the pits for a run later!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 16, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
Go Turbinator II !!!


And HUGE congrats to Poteet & Main, wow wow wow.

Dean
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 16, 2013, 09:15:46 AM
Ok, so does anybody really know which engine Speed Demon ran yesterday and today?  As I recall, with the (386") B motor they were #715.  Then, with the (299"?) D motor, I believe they were #1715.  I left just after their run yesterday, when they were #7151.  So, was this the (347"?) C motor?   SCTA still hasn't posted results for Thursday (which they're calling "Friday"), August 15, on their website.  

Also, did they run on the infamous Course No. 1 again this morning?   With 451 out the back door, I think it can be assumed that any problems they may have had were minor.  
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
Vesco streamliner hopes to run around 9am Utah Mountain time, 8am Pacific time.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 16, 2013, 09:24:16 AM
Speed Demon raced OK with no problems on course number one, I don't know for sure which engine, my guess is the repaired B motor.  :?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: javajoe79 on August 16, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
I think one of the issues is the way the salt cures from year to year and the drying conditions.

This year as many recall on Thursday and Friday, there were lots of areas where there was a top layer of "stick to your shoes" salt that was in the process of drying but was still too wet to cement to the layers below. As it dried out it got harder and to casual examination it appeared to be good hard consolodated salt again but I suspect that in that top layer it needs time to cross bond between the salt crystals after it "appears" to be ready to race, before it really bonds to lower layers and forms a cohesive layer. 

If that is the case it might behave similar to snow crust on top of a weak layer of snow and under high shear load (ie a car sliding) the weaker top layer breaks free sooner than you would expect and results in more tendency to spin for cars that are marginal.

Maybe it needs a bit more time to cure and cross bond especially on course #1 before we consider it "ready to race".

There is probably some research out there that would help figure out the proper drying conditions and time delays (much like curing concrete needs a period of time 28 days to cure to reach full strength after it sets -- I suspect the salt does too as it also is constructed of an interlocking matrix of crystals)

Maybe BNI needs to talk to some engineering schools and see if there are some bright graduate students who would be willing to do a paper or controlled studies of how to form a really firm hard racing surface after a late July or August wet down as we had this year?

It is common knowledge that the racing surface varies from year to year but why and how does that happen? Why in two apparently similar years you get different salt behavior and racing performance out of a surface that on casual inspection is ready to race on and hard and dry?


  Kind of my thoughts but way more in depth. I have some avalance study from college so your comment about the similarities between snow layers and salt layers makes sense to me.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Calkins on August 16, 2013, 09:38:24 AM
From Facebook...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1174861_3348493966589_887641433_n.jpg)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 16, 2013, 09:42:34 AM
Hammond spin photo sequence. Shot by a pals nephew, firstimer on the salt. He held his ground and kept shooting as all around him dove!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lccm1zeDk0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: bvillercr on August 16, 2013, 09:45:44 AM
Hammond spin photo sequence. Shot by a pals nephew, firstimer on the salt. He held his ground and kept shooting as all around him dove!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lccm1zeDk0&feature=player_embedded

Way to stand his ground.  Nice shots. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 16, 2013, 09:48:15 AM
Hammond spin photo sequence. Shot by a pals nephew, firstimer on the salt. He held his ground and kept shooting as all around him dove!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lccm1zeDk0&feature=player_embedded

Way to stand his ground.  Nice shots. :cheers:

I think that was the 15 year old, newly minted car guys. Mark is trying to get them interested.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 16, 2013, 10:13:49 AM
Did the Turbinator run yet? The live feed keeps dropping...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: maj on August 16, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
Sounds like there going to turn off the streaming before Turbinator runs  :x
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 16, 2013, 10:22:04 AM
Sounds like there going to turn off the streaming before Terminator runs  :x

Yeah, it was on long enough for me to hear that...   :x
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Rcktscientist on August 16, 2013, 10:23:23 AM
Hearty Congrats for George and the Speed Demon Crew! :cheers: Waited until the last day to put 2 awesome runs together.

The Speed Demon gets down the course with no problem because of Downforce. That car has a bunch of it making it very stable. That equates to Drag that takes HP to overcome, which is why Mr. Dutwieler comes in.

It is interesting SCTA stopped posting Spins-Crashes, reaks of NHRA.

There is a lot of speculation about the Salt Condition. It obviously had issues this year, but isn't that what makes Bonneville well Bonneville? If they didn't keep putting restrictions on Top Fuel cars you would be seeing high 300 or low 400 MPH runs on the quarter. Now that's a fast Lakester. The salt or dirt at El Mirage is the variable that the racer needs to overcome. If it rained would everyone be griping about the SCTA?

I do think that the courses should be shut down every few hours for a 20 minutes or so for a sweep and to allow a crew person to check out the track surface for grooves, soft spots, etc., at least for the higher speed vehicles.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Hot Rod Lincoln on August 16, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
From Facebook...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1174861_3348493966589_887641433_n.jpg)

nice....    :cheers:      show-off    :roll:  ;)

that is one well built car with a hell of an owner(s) and crew..... Congrats

how many times over 400mph for him now ?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 16, 2013, 10:27:46 AM
Earlier in the thread someone posted 30+ 400mph runs I believe? Maybe it was 40?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 16, 2013, 10:31:12 AM
According to Vesco's Twitter, Turbinator is on the line and ready to go!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rouse on August 16, 2013, 10:32:12 AM
Well that's it for the broadcast.

What happened to 8Pack, is he OK, I hear he went down just before the broadcast went out.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 16, 2013, 10:38:54 AM
Vesco also tweeted that the #444 may not make it, as they're running out of time.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 1212FBGS on August 16, 2013, 10:47:11 AM
The Speed Demon gets down the course with no problem because of Downforce. That car has a bunch of it making it very stable. That equates to Drag that takes HP to overcome, which is why Mr. Dutwieler comes in.

that car looks pretty darn neutral to me..... i dont see where you see downforce...... Turbinator is #111 not #444
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 16, 2013, 10:47:29 AM
Sounds like Damion Gardner is done for the meet as the "Green Demon" spun again this morning. 195mph was his best speed of the week in his quest for 200mph. He's still the Worlds Fastest Sprint Car though.

I'm guessing Damion's got Salt Fever and he'll be back.

If any of you are out near Perris California tomorrow night, head on over to Perris Auto Speedway and watch Damion run with the USAC/CRA sprint cars. It's one heck of a show!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 16, 2013, 10:49:27 AM
I know that Turbinator is #111. I was commenting on the #444 Little Giant. They had planned to try and run both cars from what I understand.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Rcktscientist on August 16, 2013, 10:58:06 AM
The Speed Demon gets down the course with no problem because of Downforce. That car has a bunch of it making it very stable. That equates to Drag that takes HP to overcome, which is why Mr. Dutwieler comes in.

that car looks pretty darn neutral to me..... i dont see where you see downforce...... Turbinator is #111 not #444

You see that big flat bottom that slopes up at the back of the car? At 400MPH what do you suppose the air pressure is there?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 16, 2013, 11:01:11 AM
Turbinator DID make a run, looked very much like the previous run.  I've gotta go turn in my vest and get home, so I'll post photos of it later.  The 444 car is in the staging lane on course 2 now....no idea if either will make another run.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Texican on August 16, 2013, 11:08:55 AM
Turbinator DID make a run, looked very much like the previous run.  I've gotta go turn in my vest and get home, so I'll post photos of it later.  The 444 car is in the staging lane on course 2 now....no idea if either will make another run.


Thanks, Ray.
  Since the gerbils ran out of peanuts; now is not even crickets chirping, we had no idea what was going on.
Jim
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 16, 2013, 11:11:52 AM
Thanks again for all your coverage Ray!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 16, 2013, 11:21:08 AM
Thanks much Ray. Have a safe trip home. Mark. 8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tom Slick on August 16, 2013, 11:39:17 AM
From Vesco's Twitter:

@teamvesco: #Turbinator 2 ran a second time at 247 mph. Hit a coursse marker causing minor body damage. Will work on fuel pressure issue for next meet
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SteveM on August 16, 2013, 12:16:53 PM
Fantastic coverage, Ray - as well as everyone else. :cheers:  Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Steve
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: High Gear on August 16, 2013, 12:20:20 PM
Thanks to everyone for the great coverage.
See you at the Shootout.

Gary
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: USFRAMONTE on August 16, 2013, 12:28:36 PM
I have followed this thread all week long and have thoroughly enjoyed it.  Many thanks to Ray and everyone
else that posted photos and times.  I was fortunate enough to be out on the salt Saturday for the opening ceremonies and first day of racing.
I have spent the last several years and many long hours pulling a drag to groom the tracks.  In my experience there is very little that can be done with a drag beyond knocking down the pressure ridges and
smoothing the racing surface (a little).  It is amazing how different the salt can be from year to year.  In looking at the tracks and the pits this year it does seem to me that the salt put down by the pumping project appeared to stay on the surface this year and not blend or mix with the existing salt.  My personal opinion is that the rains just prior to Speed Week had alot to do with that.  When they made their first
dragging efforts in June the surface was bonded and hard. I feel like the rains tend to disolve the new salt
first and bring it to the top.  This is just my opinion, no scientific facts to back any of it up.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dakin Engineering on August 16, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
Monte,
  Which course will the USFRA use?

Sam
#6062
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: USFRAMONTE on August 16, 2013, 12:52:39 PM
Sam,
I plan on going out to check the courses sometime next week.  We most likely will make a decision on which courses to use a few days prior to WOS.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 16, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
From Vesco's Twitter:

@teamvesco: #Turbinator 2 ran a second time at 247 mph. Hit a coursse marker causing minor body damage. Will work on fuel pressure issue for next meet

"Next meet"???  I wonder if that'll be WoS, Cook's Shootout, or WF.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Larry C on August 16, 2013, 01:18:59 PM
Next meet is BUB, we begin next weekend. I hear entries are up and many over seas riders along with a couple of liners. Looking forward to a great M/C week.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 16, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
Monte, sorry to have missed this the last couple of years. Miss your smiling face to. Hope to see you soon, Mark. The bearded one.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 16, 2013, 01:48:05 PM
I was referring to the next meet for Turbinator.  

I realize that Bub is the next meet on the calendar, but I very seriously doubt if Turbinator will be there.

I certainly like your idea of requiring passengers on sidecars, though.  Without a passenger, perhaps sidecars should just be considered tricycles!  Not that that's a bad thing, since the speed record for a tricycle is considerably higher than anybody ran at Speedweek this year!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Larry C on August 16, 2013, 01:58:38 PM
Also very anxious to see Turbinator run again, and yes I continue to be a strong proponent of real sidecars with real passengers. I appreciate the engineering that goes into some of the machinery that runs in the S/C class Speedweek but the dinky platform on a wheel on a stick is just not acceptable to this traditional sidecar racer. Thank goodness we are fortunate to have different venues where we can all exercise our passion for speed.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 16, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
Where can one volunteer for duty as a monkey?
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 16, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
The Zoo :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: saltwheels262 on August 16, 2013, 03:17:16 PM
thanks for the great coverage and pics, ray.
will be getting to that donate button at the top of the page this weekend.

franey
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: desotoman on August 16, 2013, 04:05:10 PM
First post since I got back from Bonneville.

I watched as J.Hotnuts went by me on Course #1, everything looked good and sounded good, then for some reason the car started drifting and went into a barrel roll, then end over end. Pretty violent crash. I am glad he is doing OK and did not get hurt worse than he did. Sorry about the loss of his racecar.

While at the Motel I heard about JonA and Stainless's car making it to impound. I was very happy for them. I did not go out to the salt the next day until around noon, then was informed about the bad news. I am glad to hear that Stainless is doing OK physically, I am sorry for the loss of the car to both Stainless and JonA.

I thought the announcers did a better job as the meet went on. One thing I noticed is some times they had a hard time reading what the racers put on the entry forms. This has also been a problem in the years past for the people who do the trophies. So I think this is one area where the racers have to step up and make their writing more readable.


Tom G. counting on you to bring more detail oriented info from the scene ..:)


Joe,

Sorry, I walked out the door after my last post, so I never saw this post until now. I did not bring my computer with me, and I don't have a smart phone, so Sorry I was no help on reporting from the salt. Next time I will be sure to bring my computer with me. Again sorry for your Brother and Stainless's loss, but glad Stainless will be OK.

Tom G.


 DeSotoman...the tire cop who wants US to stop talking but he can't.



John,

I am no tire cop just was answering Joe's post, explaining better what I was talking about in my previous post. 

Tom G.




  Tom...before shootin your mouth off about wide tires only being rated to 300 mph. you shold have checked

 closer on the specs of Goodyear Eagle Land Speed Tires.  NONE are rated over 300.

  Tom the expert :roll:

            JL222 :cheers:



John,

I am no expert, and really don't think I am shooting my mouth off, (sorry you do, I still respect you) but for general information, I did see the ratings on all the Goodyear Landspeed Tires. There are 500+ mph Skinny tires, no they are not Goodyears, they are Mickey Thompson Tires, (M/T) and that is what I was talking about. 

Tom G.

More food for thought, not putting Rob on the spot only posting his finding for his car:


The 2291 wide tires did not work very well for us. They did accelerate very good to about 220 then they became a bit evil to drive on. Put skinnys back on and had much better results.


SSS,

I think there would be value in having a Heading for LSR Tires, in the Tech Information Section of this site. All of the information posted in various places on this website about tires is useless to the new guy starting out, and eventually IMO would end up being posted under a Tire thread which anyone could go to for answers about others experiences. A donation is on the way.


Tom G.

PS. Thanks to the SCTA and all of the volunteers who make Speedweek possible. Thanks to RTR for the great photo's and commentary on this thread. A donation is on the way Ray.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 16, 2013, 04:18:12 PM
The Speed Demon gets down the course with no problem because of Downforce. That car has a bunch of it making it very stable. That equates to Drag that takes HP to overcome, which is why Mr. Dutwieler comes in.

that car looks pretty darn neutral to me..... i dont see where you see downforce...... Turbinator is #111 not #444

  I wonder if Speed Demon has got traction control figured out, 323 in the 21/4 :-o where other cars with wings and fast
speeds in the past can't get a decent time anywhere.

  JL222
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 16, 2013, 04:25:20 PM
Trimmers, maybe your son wants to ride in a sidecar.  He would be a chimp off the ol' block.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kansas Bad Man on August 16, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Also very anxious to see Turbinator run again, and yes I continue to be a strong proponent of real sidecars with real passengers. I appreciate the engineering that goes into some of the machinery that runs in the S/C class Speedweek but the dinky platform on a wheel on a stick is just not acceptable to this traditional sidecar racer. Thank goodness we are fortunate to have different venues where we can all exercise our passion for speed.


It seems that you and Trimmer have pretty much decided for the rest of us what side car racing should be.  You derided a side car on a stick.  There is no such thing.  The requirements are quite stringest to pass tech.  Three point mounting, not a single stick as you suggest, a platform large enough for a person to sit on, and a detachable 130+lbs. weight, which replaces the weight of a human being.  The human has an advantage over a fixed weight, as the human is mobile, and moves his weight to assist the driver of the motorcycle.  The advantage to the side car racer definately goes to the one with the monkey.

A real side car normally has a seat, a windowshield, a trunk for storage and so on.  I don't think your "real" side car has any of these things.  Just my opinion.

                              Max
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 16, 2013, 04:44:34 PM
  Yea, Tom wide tires do not like loose conditions or marbles. Glad I missed this meet as even the skinnys couldn't
 hook :-D  And were not above using skinnys if conditions require them.

  Looks like the future is traction control :cry:

  No hard feelings Tom, just sticking up for the fattys and it sounded like only the WIDE Goodyear LSR tires were rated
to 300mph.

  It would be interesting to know, what speeds the Goodyear LSR tires have been tested to on the Great White Dyno.

        JL222 :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 16, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
Thanks TomG...:)..

Stoney Fritz crashed his bike this morning as well..

""crashed this am trying to boost his record. Hit a rut b4 3 mi.  In SLC univ Hosp. 7 broken ribs..1 in places inflaming his spleen. Lining around left lung punctured. Scapula broken. Trauma team has not cleared him yet"

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Rcktscientist on August 16, 2013, 04:54:07 PM
The Speed Demon gets down the course with no problem because of Downforce. That car has a bunch of it making it very stable. That equates to Drag that takes HP to overcome, which is why Mr. Dutwieler comes in.

that car looks pretty darn neutral to me..... i dont see where you see downforce...... Turbinator is #111 not #444

  I wonder if Speed Demon has got traction control figured out, 323 in the 21/4 :-o where other cars with wings and fast
speeds in the past can't get a decent time anywhere.

They get the power to the ground fast for sure, all incrementals are other worldly. It's a question of balance and technology. Downforce, traction control and a 7 speed Liberty Transmission is a big part of the quick acceleration. They have been working years to get it to come together and it's great to see them set records. There are several AA/FS now, each with a very different approach. Will be interesting to see how they do.

 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Larry C on August 16, 2013, 06:04:33 PM
Max, this is an old news conversation like I said "Thank goodness we are fortunate to have different venues where we can all exercise our passion for speed"
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jl222 on August 16, 2013, 06:18:58 PM
The Speed Demon gets down the course with no problem because of Downforce. That car has a bunch of it making it very stable. That equates to Drag that takes HP to overcome, which is why Mr. Dutwieler comes in.

that car looks pretty darn neutral to me..... i dont see where you see downforce...... Turbinator is #111 not #444

  I wonder if Speed Demon has got traction control figured out, 323 in the 21/4 :-o where other cars with wings and fast
speeds in the past can't get a decent time anywhere.

They get the power to the ground fast for sure, all incrementals are other worldly. It's a question of balance and technology. Downforce, traction control and a 7 speed Liberty Transmission is a big part of the quick acceleration. They have been working years to get it to come together and it's great to see them set records. There are several AA/FS now, each with a very different approach. Will be interesting to see how they do.

 

  The 7 speeds might help them from falling out of power band [or whereever band they want] but it's not going to help acceleration if they blow the tires off. I suspect traction control.
  We have to short shift the 222 car at a low power level less than 40% throttle and will still blow tires away in 3rd gear, full throttle only in high gear but still managed a 280 mph 21/4 time.  2011 only 40% throttle in high
gear before spinning on wet course. Started raining or had rained at the 3 mile on run. Chute was soaked when
picked up.

  I know one reason Freddy D overgeared and short shifted his lakester was the tires would blow off. Not sure
but think he had 320 mph 21/4 also.

  Looking into traction control for speed and safety.

        JL222

        
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: CG on August 16, 2013, 06:22:07 PM
Hammond spin photo sequence. Shot by a pals nephew, firstimer on the salt. He held his ground and kept shooting as all around him dove!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lccm1zeDk0&feature=player_embedded

Way to stand his ground.  Nice shots. :cheers:

I think that was the 15 year old, newly minted car guys. Mark is trying to get them interested.

It was Wyatt the 13 year old ... His brother and I were looking for cover lol.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Stan Back on August 16, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
A few comments . . .

I got back yesterday after taking about a 100 (finished) photos each day Saturday thru Wednesday.  Each day they were supposed to be posted on the SCTA site.  Some ran a little late.  I was on all 4 courses, but it was impossible to include names and times and get them posted that night.  Hopefully some racers will see their vehicle on the salt for the first time.  This was my focus. 

I've spent quite a bit of time today catching up with what happened.  I'd try the FM for a few minutes between courses and then give up.  I'd given the announcers my pre-entry sheets that I'd re-sorted in numerical order and posted the three-digit class record on each  for their reference.  I thought they did an okay job with this.  But all the other unrelated comments were, in my opinion, not needed.  It certainly is not required to be talking all the time, especially if you're not on subject.

I was one of the yellow-vested folk.  Yes, once in a while, I'd get in someone's way, but it was by accident.  Ron Jolliffe asked me over on #1 to herd the cats, but I really had no authority and courtesy was not even considered by quite a few.  One time we were all lined up at 45º off the starting line, and one German fellow stood out by 20 feet from the line.  I explained the principle to him, and he obligingly stepped back 1 foot.  (No, it was not PP.)

All in all, I worked about 9 hours each day, and didn't have a clue as to what was transpiring.  My car and bike shots are included with the SCTA results.

I hope someone finds them enjoyable.

Stan
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 16, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Jim, there was a bag of cat food in every bag of kitty litter that was used.

You should have asked Lee Kennedy to have some shared with you.

That may have made your job easier.

Congratulations on your induction into The Kilo Klub.

It was a beautiful ceremony.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 16, 2013, 07:11:06 PM
To answer my earlier question, I checked the results on the SCTA website.  According to that (which would jibe with the third entry number) Speed Demon qualified yesterday and set the record today with the "C" motor.  If I remember correctly, it's 347".   
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: LittleLiner on August 16, 2013, 07:52:07 PM
. . .  I worked about 9 hours each day, and didn't have a clue as to what was transpiring.  My car and bike shots are included with the SCTA results.         
I hope someone finds them enjoyable.   

Stan,  Thank you for the photos and your other efforts  . . you (and others) make 'viewing' speedweek from afar possible,       Art
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 16, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
Stoney Fritz....was cleared by trauma so to speak...cleared for surgery basically
tomorrow to plate the rib with multiple breaks, and a chest tube to help reinflate
the left lung....not sure yet if fx scapula will require surg repair....

he is at University Hospital in SLC...



Thanks alot Stan for the images...im wondered how all those great shots got in there each day..!! VERY much
enjoyed them....for without...much more would have been missed...!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 16, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
I know we had all hoped for an event without mishaps, but I guess it was not to be.   

Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery for Stoney!   
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 16, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
A few comments . . .

I got back yesterday after taking about a 100 (finished) photos each day Saturday thru Wednesday.  Each day they were supposed to be posted on the SCTA site.  Some ran a little late.  I was on all 4 courses, but it was impossible to include names and times and get them posted that night.  Hopefully some racers will see their vehicle on the salt for the first time.  This was my focus. 

I've spent quite a bit of time today catching up with what happened.  I'd try the FM for a few minutes between courses and then give up.  I'd given the announcers my pre-entry sheets that I'd re-sorted in numerical order and posted the three-digit class record on each  for their reference.  I thought they did an okay job with this.  But all the other unrelated comments were, in my opinion, not needed.  It certainly is not required to be talking all the time, especially if you're not on subject.

I was one of the yellow-vested folk.  Yes, once in a while, I'd get in someone's way, but it was by accident.  Ron Jolliffe asked me over on #1 to herd the cats, but I really had no authority and courtesy was not even considered by quite a few.  One time we were all lined up at 45º off the starting line, and one German fellow stood out by 20 feet from the line.  I explained the principle to him, and he obligingly stepped back 1 foot.  (No, it was not PP.)

All in all, I worked about 9 hours each day, and didn't have a clue as to what was transpiring.  My car and bike shots are included with the SCTA results.

I hope someone finds them enjoyable.

Stan

Stan: Just went through your photos on the SCTA page...beautiful! Definitely an inspiration for all of us who haven't run a car on the salt yet but are trying to get there. Thanks for the great work!

Gary
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 16, 2013, 09:34:28 PM
This is Pork Pie,

using Ray the Rat's user....so as I'm sitting here in Ray's living room.

First, as I said at the 200 mph Banquet....to all the racer's who had the bad luck that their racer went out of order, a great and fast recovering, and a happy birthday to Stainless and our Hotnuts who walked away after their scary crashes. And a special thank you to the SCTA/BNI for the today safety standards which make this possible.

About Stainless crash....I have heard from this video (done by the Hot Rod magazine) and so as they said on the radio...the video showed 17 "loops"....but I haven't seen the video.....Ray had mixed up my picture with the video

Anyway, I saw the crash from a other view...standing at the 5 1/2 mile, ready to make the parachute picture from Stainless and the streamliner....I just had got the racer in the focus at the 4 mile when he went out of control...
I need a moment to get him back in focus, but from there on I done picture of the crash.....and what I saw during framing the crash I can say it was one of the heaviest I have ever seen....

it is tough to make picture from a crash...but may be tougher when it is the car from your team.....in this moment you better stay cool and get the pics.....

about this picture....they went only to Jon Amo, as the co owner of the streamliner....and to the SCTA via Lee Kennedy.....this pics will never show up on any places....they are only for investigations of the incident and the reaction of the construction...

This picture are uninterested for the public....if the public like to see "sensations" they can view reality shows....but not this kind of picture.....this one are just for the safety issues....

see ya

Pork Pie
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 16, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
Thanks for being there Porkie.

The odds are poor when the goal is a parachute shot.

You never know where it will happen.

Just look where Turbinator pulled his chute: before the 3.

Jonny Hot Stones didn't get to the normal chute release point either.

A lot of experience helps create luck but 'chute shots are always a gamble.

You captured documentation that was more important than the 'chute shot.

Ya done good.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 16, 2013, 10:32:05 PM
Thanks for being there Porkie.

The odds are poor when the goal is a parachute shot.

You never know where it will happen.

Just look where Turbinator pulled his chute: before the 3.

Jonny Hot Stones didn't get to the normal chute release point either.

A lot of experience helps create luck but 'chute shots are always a gamble.

You captured documentation that was more important than the 'chute shot.

Ya done good.

FREUD

Pork Pie again

Freud,

parachute picture are always a luck to be on the right place.

but in a moment like Stainless incident everything has to step back....and the parachute picture didn't count anymore....important is in that moment to frame the situation so we can learn from this experience.

Stainless and Jonny were both very lucky that they walked away with minor injuries....during the crash I gave Stainless not 10 cents.....for me it is a miracle....so more I was happy to seeing him at our table at the 200 MPH Club banquet.....and his inner smile was wider than the room where we had the banquet.....Stainless, thanks that you make it to THIS banquet

...wished we had a bigger table that you, Freud, also could join us....but we had really no space left over, we was sitting shoulder to shoulder after we had add another chair, so we was 11 instead of 10 on the table....we was on the limit....sorry for that.

and thanks again for the funny picture of my speech....

I'm looking for seeing you in September

Pork Pie


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: firemanjim on August 16, 2013, 11:11:30 PM
Joe, thanks for report on Stony, been waiting with baited breath to say the least! Good friend and I tuned the beast. Good juju sent!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 17, 2013, 08:08:04 AM
Stoney Fritz....was cleared by trauma so to speak...cleared for surgery basically
tomorrow to plate the rib with multiple breaks, and a chest tube to help reinflate
the left lung....not sure yet if fx scapula will require surg repair....

he is at University Hospital in SLC...



Thanks alot Stan for the images...im wondered how all those great shots got in there each day..!! VERY much
enjoyed them....for without...much more would have been missed...!!!


Thanks for the report Joe. Tough year for land speed.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 17, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
Pork Pie:

Well said. People who spectate must learn that LSR is all about the journey regardless if the record you chase is 60 MPH or 600 MPH. If someone wants sensation or countless replays of a crash, well there are other venues they can consume to live out that fantasy Most people that dig the crash footage are people that don't have the will or stones to attempt anything bold.

Pork Pie and anyone else that refuse to distribute crash photos to anyone but the car owner and SCTA I say good for you.

My 2 cents.

BR



This is Pork Pie,

using Ray the Rat's user....so as I'm sitting here in Ray's living room.

First, as I said at the 200 mph Banquet....to all the racer's who had the bad luck that their racer went out of order, a great and fast recovering, and a happy birthday to Stainless and our Hotnuts who walked away after their scary crashes. And a special thank you to the SCTA/BNI for the today safety standards which make this possible.

About Stainless crash....I have heard from this video (done by the Hot Rod magazine) and so as they said on the radio...the video showed 17 "loops"....but I haven't seen the video.....Ray had mixed up my picture with the video

Anyway, I saw the crash from a other view...standing at the 5 1/2 mile, ready to make the parachute picture from Stainless and the streamliner....I just had got the racer in the focus at the 4 mile when he went out of control...
I need a moment to get him back in focus, but from there on I done picture of the crash.....and what I saw during framing the crash I can say it was one of the heaviest I have ever seen....

it is tough to make picture from a crash...but may be tougher when it is the car from your team.....in this moment you better stay cool and get the pics.....

about this picture....they went only to Jon Amo, as the co owner of the streamliner....and to the SCTA via Lee Kennedy.....this pics will never show up on any places....they are only for investigations of the incident and the reaction of the construction...

This picture are uninterested for the public....if the public like to see "sensations" they can view reality shows....but not this kind of picture.....this one are just for the safety issues....

see ya

Pork Pie
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Gary Perkinson on August 17, 2013, 09:59:34 AM
+1000

Pork Pie:

Well said. People who spectate must learn that LSR is all about the journey regardless if the record you chase is 60 MPH or 600 MPH. If someone wants sensation or countless replays of a crash, well there are other venues they can consume to live out that fantasy Most people that dig the crash footage are people that don't have the will or stones to attempt anything bold.

Pork Pie and anyone else that refuse to distribute crash photos to anyone but the car owner and SCTA I say good for you.

My 2 cents.

BR



This is Pork Pie,

using Ray the Rat's user....so as I'm sitting here in Ray's living room.

First, as I said at the 200 mph Banquet....to all the racer's who had the bad luck that their racer went out of order, a great and fast recovering, and a happy birthday to Stainless and our Hotnuts who walked away after their scary crashes. And a special thank you to the SCTA/BNI for the today safety standards which make this possible.

About Stainless crash....I have heard from this video (done by the Hot Rod magazine) and so as they said on the radio...the video showed 17 "loops"....but I haven't seen the video.....Ray had mixed up my picture with the video

Anyway, I saw the crash from a other view...standing at the 5 1/2 mile, ready to make the parachute picture from Stainless and the streamliner....I just had got the racer in the focus at the 4 mile when he went out of control...
I need a moment to get him back in focus, but from there on I done picture of the crash.....and what I saw during framing the crash I can say it was one of the heaviest I have ever seen....

it is tough to make picture from a crash...but may be tougher when it is the car from your team.....in this moment you better stay cool and get the pics.....

about this picture....they went only to Jon Amo, as the co owner of the streamliner....and to the SCTA via Lee Kennedy.....this pics will never show up on any places....they are only for investigations of the incident and the reaction of the construction...

This picture are uninterested for the public....if the public like to see "sensations" they can view reality shows....but not this kind of picture.....this one are just for the safety issues....

see ya

Pork Pie
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Avanti Kid on August 17, 2013, 11:29:18 AM
We all agree with those statement, thanks for keeping those photos private,  Dave
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JonAmo on August 17, 2013, 12:28:09 PM
Well Stainless is moving around, slow but moving. His swelling around his "coon" eyes has went down. Chin swelling down, still has dizzy spells when moving head too fast or side to side. He is still amazed he walked away without any major trauma, broken bones. He will be traveling back to Kansas today with his grandson driving the truck and trailer.

After all he is "Stainless", he will be working on the Bockscar to have it ready for WOS.

Thanks everybody
Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: mtkawboy on August 17, 2013, 12:32:21 PM
One of the hilites of the meet was finally meeting the world famous Pork Pie. I could not believe he flys here from Germany 3 times a year for land speed racing
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on August 17, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
He has a love for LSR, this is why we had him drive the Bockscar and we are happy to welcome him into the 200MPH club. He is a great friend :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zzcruzin on August 17, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
Well Stainless is moving around, slow but moving. His swelling around his "coon" eyes has went down. Chin swelling down, still has dizzy spells when moving head too fast or side to side. He is still amazed he walked away without any major trauma, broken bones. He will be traveling back to Kansas today with his grandson driving the truck and trailer.

After all he is "Stainless", he will be working on the Bockscar to have it ready for WOS.

Thanks everybody
Jon


Jon, thanks for update. Glad to hear good things about Stainless. Goes to show that you built a car that is not only beautiful but proved itself on safety and construction for the driver. You are to be commended for that. I have always admired that beautiful streamliner. Hope to see it back on the salt in the near future. Good luck to you and Stainless, Mark.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Bret Kepner on August 17, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
A few notes:

Can't say enough for Mike the mayor who opened the store at 11 pm last night for a crew members plane that got a flat tire on the runway on landing…

That’s the most vague possible comment on one of the most hilarious incidents of SpeedWeek 2013!

80 B/BGMS HIZER RACING SPIRITS
I assume this is not the LeSabre?

It’s the new “Courtney Memorial” Berkely.

Just heard them talking about the American Iron Roadster class requiring a steel body..where is that requirement shown in the rule book?

I believe the requirement is plainly stated in the name of the class.


One more note and not trying to be critical, but the 911 roadster ran 295 on a five mile pass Sun or Mon.

Incorrect. The new fuel tank DID allow them to finally run to the Four but they only drained 2.5 gallons after that pass. It never went to the Five.


For the record:

Four cars, (Poteet, Dauernheim, Strasburg and Dalton), clocked over 300 mph.

Five drivers, (Hudson, McLeish, Hot Nuts, Steele, Fritz), were involved in crashes…not counting numerous collisions with Mile Markers.

Based on my count as they happened, the total number of spins throughout the week on all four courses was thirty-seven.

It was great to see everybody; congratulations to the new “Kilo Klub” members!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 17, 2013, 01:30:46 PM
Car wash opportunities in SLC:

On West North Temple I found three places.

The first two are on Redwood Street.

On the South East corner there is a Shell Station. When their washer is working it

even does the underside. Pay inside unless you buy gas from them. Then you can pay

at the pump. It wasn't working on Friday so I don't know what the cost is. I have used it in the past.

On the North West side (just diagonally across the street) is a Chevron.

Drive around behind the building to access it. Credit or debits accepted.Their facility is

first class w/o brushes. Their water cleaned the salt stains off of the alloy wheels on my Caddy.

Three prices. I chose the middle one for $6.00. You drive in, stop and sit while the wash is done.

Pull ahead and the blower does a good dry job. Lighted display tells you what to do.

At 1680 ,on the North side of the street, is a multiple wash place with wands. I used it a long time ago.

If you haven't done any washing since driving off of the salt I'd suggest it as the place to stop.

I have no idea of the cost.  The cross street is either 1600 or 1680 and I think it's 1680.

Get your rental car in town and save the airport taxes that are over $40. The taxes are over 40%.

A $12.50 taxi ride ( I was told it is a locked fee) takes you to town.

The other alternative is the light rail for $2.50 that you catch at the East end of  terminal #1 at SLC.

The rental car people can not drop you at the airport but they can pick you up at the light rail stop.

If you board the train in downtown there is no cost to ride to the airport.  I don't know the frequency but the wait

was not long for me. ENTERPRISE took me to the rail stop.

SLC has mean rental car taxes. They are still paying for the Winter Olympics and will be for a long time.

I hope you had an enjoyable time on the salt. To me it was strange. For a first timer it is your only standard by

which to judge. Many reliable cars had traction problems. Others just ripped the lid off the event.

SO goes it.

I want to THANK the people that looked me up. It was joy to meet all of you. Next time I may remember

your face and forget your name.  But then again I may not remember either your name or face.

That's the way it happens when you get older than many trees.

We plan to have the TARGET 550 car at World of Speed. I hope you can share it's maiden runs with us.

Don't expect anything earth shattering. It's all shake down and seat time.

FREUD

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Track T-4 on August 17, 2013, 03:11:43 PM
This was our first time to the salt and Speedweek.  We spent Saturday, Sunday and Monday there and had a super time.  A big THANK YOU to everyone on this thread who offered suggestions and advice on everything to make our experience even better - rental cars, lodging, eateries, when to attend, do's and dont's, what to wear, what to take, invites to stop by and see their cars, commentary and photos on this forum, and much more.  Everyone we met in Utah was friendly and helpful from Wendover to Park City (we also took side trips to Salt Lake City and Park City). 

We met a bunch of fellow hot rodders who shared their shade and friendship with us all three days.  One of them took each of us for a spin in his vintage hot rod and did a few donuts, when my wife returned from her ride - she was behind the wheel, had done a few donuts, and was covered in salt...absolutely made her day! 

After concerns about using a rental car - they didn't ask and we didn't tell.  After the third day the $5 bulk wash at Land's End pretty much did the job on removing the salt and I only spent another $6 doing a more detailed wash. On the floors we used the sticky-sided plastic normally used to protect home carpets, even used it to wrap the pedals without needing tape.  The stuff is a little difficult to manage but it lasted all three days and hardly required any vacuuming when removed.

Maryland is a long way away so I'm not sure when we'll get there again but this year was certainly a memorable experience.    :cheers:

               
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 17, 2013, 03:43:21 PM

For the record:

Based on my count as they happened, the total number of spins throughout the week on all four courses was thirty-seven.


In looking at the published results, my count on spins/crashes is 47 - and that doen't include any that took place on record runs.  There were obviously more, as the results didn't include the "comments" for Tuesday's runs, and seemed to list precious little for the long course runs. 
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: thundersalt on August 17, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
 "the total number of spins throughout the week on all four courses was thirty-seven."

36 of them was the sprint car :evil: :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SPARKY on August 17, 2013, 05:17:50 PM
Jon,  Thanks for the update---SS take care going home and when you get home
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: azgearhed on August 17, 2013, 06:26:41 PM
Hello from BC Racing. I did not access the forum while I was at Speedweek but I'm gonna give a recap of our week here. We drove up on Thursday and went though tech on Friday. We have 3 drivers and only 1 hat so we intended to fix that imbalance. We just installed a Racepak system on our car so Roger made a checkout pass Saturday  on course 1 to the 2 1/4 to baseline and check function. Sunday A.M. Mark ran on course 1 and clicked it early with shift problems. I ran later at 2 pm on course 1, went 219 in the middle and skatin' big time. We went to course 2 and made a run @4:15 and I ran 232 @ the 3, more stable, but ran out of fuel (hope we don't do that again). I made another run @ 5:52 going 206 in the 2 1/4 with handling problems (tracks in the course I think).  Monday I ran @ 11am, course 2 and went 254 in the last mile on our own 251 record. Tuesday out of impound were in line for the run on 2 when Stainless crashed, so because of a long (1hour) clean up, they moved the rest of the backup runs over to the loose course 1. (what a yah gonna do?) I was @ 240 to the 4 when the car seemed to grab a groove and hooked hard to the right. They said I spun 5 times, first spin ever for the car 26 runs @ bville and 10 at ElMo. We went out later in the day after inspection and on course 2 and I ran about 230 and hit a course marker on the left side of the track. Gettin' driving lessons I guess-caved in the air dam and blew out the windshield . After a pow wow, Roger and Don went to SLC to get a new windshield (thanks Robby Cohn) and Mark fixed the air dam. Wednesday am, class change to AA/CBGALT, Roger made a run @ 12:30 going 256 to the 4 on a 249 record. Thursday backed it up with a 254. We were gonna try some more but in inspection we found a hole burned in the blower to intercooler silicone tube the size of a bratwurst and water out of #6 spark plug hole. But a pretty good week all in all.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Don Martin on August 17, 2013, 06:33:26 PM
Got home from Speedweek last night. Second year Cliff and I drove out from Tennessee. We call it fact finding missions to learn and see all we can. We stay with a local family that are the nicest people you can meet. Plans are to stay with them next year when we bring our wives and our C/GCC 53 Studebaker. The people involved with LSR are the best on earth. Many thanks to the SCTA volunteers for there hard work. We spent alot of time in and around tech, asking questions and listening. We took part in the rookie orientation for the second year. Thanks Nathan. We dropped off a transmission to Provo and Judy ( great people ). For years I wanted to go to Speedweek and heard about salt fever. I know now there is no cure for it as I am making plans for next year the day after getting home. The count down has started. See you on the salt.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 1212FBGS on August 17, 2013, 08:06:32 PM
After my experiences with the bunch of em, The SCTA would be the last people I would give crash pix too..... They don't need em..... They are much happier creating there own idea and story of what caused the accident....
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jh333 on August 17, 2013, 08:37:44 PM
There is a sure cure for salt fever, just let the Sheriffs oops I mean tech inspectors tell you how smart they are and how dumb you are. SURE CURE FOR YOUR FEVER! !!!!!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: SabreTooth on August 18, 2013, 12:26:58 AM
Stoney Fritz....was cleared by trauma so to speak...cleared for surgery basically
tomorrow to plate the rib with multiple breaks, and a chest tube to help reinflate
the left lung....not sure yet if fx scapula will require surg repair....

he is at University Hospital in SLC...

Got the bad news somewhere in Montana travelling back home to Alberta Friday. I met the ever jovial Stoney "Evil Penguin" Fritz for the first time this year and we were rooting for him on his new twin engined bike. If I recall, he set one record after a close call earlier in the week and we wished him good luck and success for the rest of the week as we left The Salt Thursday. Joe, thanks for the initial report and update.

Stoney, wishing you a full and speedy recovery. That's one serious "off." You  may not be feeling very lucky at the moment but luck you must have, although one less life off the tally I'm sure.

Get well soon and my wishes well to the all the racers involved in injury incidents this past week.

Jim
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JamesLaMere on August 18, 2013, 12:53:51 AM
Thank you to everyone who volunteered to make the 65th SpeedWeek a great event!

Question: why is 1 1/2" chrome-moly tubing considered inferior to 1 5/8" mild steel?

For those interested, posted an initial selection of my photos at:

http://www.facebook.com/jameslamere/media_set?set=a.10201924458660979.1073741853.1469690395&type=1
 
See you at World Finals!
James LaMere
Denver, CO
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Beairsto Racing on August 18, 2013, 02:23:50 AM
Copied from the Yamaha Warrior forum...thanks Justin.

Update on Stoney-Just got back from visiting with him and he is doin good. He is in pretty rough shape but doing good considering. He has 7 broken ribs, 2 of which were broken in multiple places and putting pressure on his spleen and one of them punctured the membrane around his lung. They have completed surgery on the ribs and plated/pinned them back together so they are no longer putting pressure on anything. Because the membrane around the lung was punctured fluid was allowed to get in and they were worried about the lung collapsing but it did not. They now have a tube into that area and have it mostly drained but left the tube in to allow it to continue to drain. He also fractured his scapula but they don't think they will have to do surgery on it. The doc said there is enough muscle back there that they are pretty sure it will stay put until healed. He will have to spend 4-5 days in the hospital here in SLC and then drive home. They wont allow him to fly due to the lung issue so his wife and a friend that was out there helping him drove all the stuff back to California and his wife will fly back to Utah tomorrow night and then drive him home once he is released.

"Onto the rest of the story-He was hauling arse!!! He said that they were 12 mile an hour faster in the first mile than any of there previous runs and he was in 5th seeing about 17-18 lbs of boost when he went down. He says it was probably his fastest run and that he is pretty sure he was north of the 200mph mark when he went down. He said the track was pretty loose and some of the big race cars had put some pretty good ruts in it so he was trying to stay all the way to the edge. He was headed over to the edge when he saw a rut and ended up hitting it which resulted in some pretty bad head shake and then the tank slap started. He said it was slapping stop to stop and he could see he was coming up on one of the signs on the side of the track so he tried not to look at it so he wouldn't go that direction, that's when he got launched off and the bike went down on the left side and didn't flip but just slid. Unfortunately Stoney still hit the sign with his body and that's what caused most of the injuries. He did have a couple cameras mounted, unfortunately one was on the left side by the intercooler and may have not survived but the other was mounted on top of the fuel tank and he hopes to be able to recover some footage from it.

Overall it turned out better than it could have so he is staying positive and I told him everyone here is pulling for him and he says thanks, he really appreciates all the support everyone here has given him."

Scott

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: PorkPie on August 18, 2013, 05:22:45 AM
Hi Folks,

I'm back home....a little bit toasted from the long travel....but I found the key for the apartment, so that I had not to climb over the roof to get in my place :roll:

I will be back for World of Speed/Shootout.....meanwhile all the best to all my friends at the salt....and a fast recovering to all who had the bad luck to crash with their racer.

Looking for to seeing you again in a few weeks.....
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: gkabbt on August 18, 2013, 09:50:14 AM
Stainless, VERY GOOD to see you logged on. Hope any swelling and soreness you have is fading.
I look forward to meeting you at WoS!  :cheers:

Gregg
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: yamagamma on August 18, 2013, 10:56:28 AM
A dedicated lane for "motorcycles only" would resolve most of the track condition safety issues for the bikes. With 2 serious bike crashes this year, SCTA should seriously consider this option, especially considering the large number of bikes being entered in this event nowadays.

Simple solution!




 

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 18, 2013, 11:00:21 AM
Thank you to everyone who volunteered to make the 65th SpeedWeek a great event!

Question: why is 1 1/2" chrome-moly tubing considered inferior to 1 5/8" mild steel?
 
See you at World Finals!
James LaMere
Denver, CO

BTW: I will be doing some engineering studies on the 1 1/2" vs 1 5/8" tubing so if any one has any questions or comments PM me over the next few weeks.

I was crewing on XsStress @ Bonneville '32 Ford so no time for posts. CW & CCW spins @ 217 and a final pass @ 233. Not bad for a little deuce coupe!  :-o

I will put some pixs up later and will also be at BUB, WoS and Top Speed. Shoulda moved to Utah this year!  :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 18, 2013, 11:27:23 AM
Thank you to everyone who volunteered to make the 65th SpeedWeek a great event!

Question: why is 1 1/2" chrome-moly tubing considered inferior to 1 5/8" mild steel?

For those interested, posted an initial selection of my photos at:

http://www.facebook.com/jameslamere/media_set?set=a.10201924458660979.1073741853.1469690395&type=1
 
See you at World Finals!
James LaMere
Denver, CO

It isn't all about tensile strength. One important factor is energy absorption in a crash. Mild steel deforms when stressed past its yield limit into its "plastic range" and this is where the energy absorption takes place. Chrome-moly has a higher yield strength but a smaller plastic range , so its energy absorption is less. Energy absorption of the structure reduces the "G" loads on the driver.

Up to the yield point, there is no energy absorption; the material is just strained (deflected) like a spring-- it stores energy but then releases it when the force is removed.

The larger diameter tube is stiffer in bending; the steel alloy doesn't matter.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 18, 2013, 12:56:22 PM
Chrome moly is good stuff and a skilled welder can make a nice and safe lightweight bike frame with it.  One drawback is it needs the "skilled welder" and the tubes can break near the welds with no warning if the welding including before and after steps are not done right.  Some of the Honda dirt bikes in the early 70's had chrome moly farmes.  They looked great and we somehow managed to break them.  Honda eventually figured out a solution.  My fix was to ride a Yamaha.  It had a frame made from higher strength mild steel and it never broke.

My experience is, for the average homeboy, he is better off using the more forgiving carbon steel for his work, and where light weight is critical, having something professionally welded from chrome moly is OK.     
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: superleggera on August 18, 2013, 02:14:33 PM

Back in the shop in Phoenix, AZ.  Interesting year on the salt.  Three big streamliners of friends never made it there which was unfortunate.  Then again the salt conditions left a lot to be desired given the spins and more and no clue how they would have done given that.  The SCTA folks and volunteers did an admirable job as usual -- if it wasn't for them, this event just wouldn't happen -- thanks for making it happen!  Also it was good to catch up with friends I hadn't seen for a year as well as make new ones -- and helping others with wrenching or technical assistance as needed since we had nothing to crew upon for this year due to the above streamliners not arriving.  Still a lot learned going through the pits, watching competitors and eyeball engineering what others have already built.  Already at work here today for 2014 for a few entrees of my own.

And Freud -- looked for you but never found you -- but at least you caught up with Dave and Misty.  See ya' next year as I'm confidant that I'll be a lot easier to find then!

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: thundersalt on August 18, 2013, 02:31:21 PM
A dedicated lane for "motorcycles only" would resolve most of the track condition safety issues for the bikes. With 2 serious bike crashes this year, SCTA should seriously consider this option, especially considering the large number of bikes being entered in this event nowadays.

Simple solution!




 


There is a motorcycle only line. It's called Bubs
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Hot Rod Lincoln on August 18, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
There is a sure cure for salt fever, just let the Sheriffs oops I mean tech inspectors tell you how smart they are and how dumb you are. SURE CURE FOR YOUR FEVER! !!!!!!!

we heard more than a few teams had a bad taste in their mouths after tech.  that's a bumber......
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 18, 2013, 02:56:40 PM
There is a sure cure for salt fever, just let the Sheriffs oops I mean tech inspectors tell you how smart they are and how dumb you are. SURE CURE FOR YOUR FEVER! !!!!!!!

we heard more than a few teams had a bad taste in their mouths after tech.  that's a bumber......

Remember, there are two sides to every story.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Stainless1 on August 18, 2013, 03:55:45 PM
I spent the last 4 hours reading

Yep the announcers sucked... I told Miriam some of the issues while waiting to run.  If Dumb would just announce cars and speeds it might work, but comments of "how disappointing to run 145 on a license pass against a 165 record" just runs me the wrong way.  I turned the FM off unless we were running... (kind of reminds me of running the early Bub meets, competitors don't need to know what's going on).... and we still didn't get all the speeds to know if we qualified because they skip the last mile and announce the exit... sometimes.

Thanks to all the well wishers... I am doing better every day... still have all my parts... cant say the same for the car, oh well, that's racing.

See ya on the salt  8-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 18, 2013, 04:02:36 PM
Chrome moly is good stuff and a skilled welder can make a nice and safe lightweight bike frame with it.  One drawback is it needs the "skilled welder" and the tubes can break near the welds with no warning if the welding including before and after steps are not done right.  Some of the Honda dirt bikes in the early 70's had chrome moly farmes.  They looked great and we somehow managed to break them.  Honda eventually figured out a solution.  My fix was to ride a Yamaha.  It had a frame made from higher strength mild steel and it never broke.

My experience is, for the average homeboy, he is better off using the more forgiving carbon steel for his work, and where light weight is critical, having something professionally welded from chrome moly is OK.     

Lots of experimental aircraft are fabricated with thin-wall 4130 chrome-moly tubing. The trick is to use 4130N (normalized) tubing and gas weld it. TIG welds look nice but it creates a very small HAZ (heat effected zone) and this concentrates the stress into a small area. Gas welding, on the other hand, creates a wide HAZ and this distributes the stress. Post-heating a 4130 TIG weld can help quite a bit.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 18, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
I just wondered if Stainless & JH wore a HANS or some other head & neck protection device. Also, did the helmet contact the side protection?

Just trying to learn as much as possible from their experiences. Glad they are up & around!

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 18, 2013, 04:43:17 PM
We're in the middle of trying to figure out how I can, without Nancy, run the streaming audio from World of Speed, and one thing that I need to know is specifically what it is that you do and don't want in that stream.  Remember that I won't be doing any announcing - it'll be just a re-broadcast of the USFRA audio.  And I can't control that, but maybe I can take a list of comments to the USFRA board and their announcer(s) to give them input from the folks back at home (so to speak). Not that they'll change things 'cause Mr. SSS says they should -- but feedback shouldn't hurt.

There are issues that need to be resolved before I can do the streaming, among these being that I'm going to be inspecting bikes.  USFRA has promised to compensate me for being an inspector, and although that won't make me rich (in fact, it isn't money but rather lodging) - still, I'll have that obligation to the Club so I can promise to be available at all times to monitor and babysit the audio stream.  I'm already in contact with someone to do that work - but stay tuned in case I've gotta grab one or two or three of youse guys that'll be there anyway, okay?

I'll go on and comment (again) about audio from the Shootout.  Nancy won't be back at Bville this year (her job means no vacation time for the salt), and she's the one that would listen to the FM two-way radio chatter to give me the speeds and other information that I enter and post.  Since she won't be there -- would one or two of you that intend on going to the Shootout like to help me?  I won't bother with audio because there are so many long periods - sometimes hours long - with nothing to hear that it'd be pretty unlikely that you'd hear the cool stuff when someone makes a run.  Heck - there are times when we'll be notified of one team about to make a run - and it becomes a two-hour wait for that run.  Pretty poor listening conditions for the folks at home.  But if I can type it in when things do happen -- well, that's what I've done.  Someone want to take turns helping me?  I'll be the pit area course steward again, and that means I'll be stuck at the freeway end of the course for all but one or two runs, and therefore I say maybe two volunteers would be best - so you two can take turns going to the tower to watch the vehicles pass you at full steam.  It is thrilling, to say the least.

Over to you.  By the way -- we're at O'Hare field right now and awaiting the next leg of our flight home, so I don't promise to be able to read your posts, much less respond, 'til tomorrow.

Jon a/k/a SSS

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Glen on August 18, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
Jon as you know I have been asked to announce for the world of speed. I am looking forward to it. They do not have a tower like SCTA but I will try to keep the live action and other information flowing the best I can. The long course is the active one on CB and you should be able to pick up everything for that course. As this is the first time to announce for them things might be a little different but I will do my best to keep the interest of the racers and spectators aware of the action. See you in a few weeks. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: salt on August 18, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
Here's a quick report on the Kraut Bros. "punkass" rear engine modified roadster:

At the beginning of August, we decided on a whim to attend Speedweek '13.
Frenetic wrenching ensued. Tuesday before Speedweek we found out on the dyno that our vintage heads didn't work right. Thanks to a very generous donation of a set of AFR heads by Rick Stoner from Westech Performance ("Here, take these and go racing") and more frenetic wrenching, we arrived on the salt on Sunday night.
From Monday through Thursday, we made over a dozen runs, netting 9 new licenses for 4 different drivers. Then, we strapped on Helmut's experimental shaft-driven centrifugal blower and I upped the D/BF record by 39mph.
We were virtually the last car to leave the line on Friday . .  and she still runs! My fingers still hurt from pulling the parachute string tight so many times! What an epic Speedweek.

By the way, we did not have any issues with the courses (ran on 2, 3, and 4) or the handling whatsoever. Did over 60 miles of running and even more of pushing the darn car about. Found 3 bad tires upon our return home, though.

I believe Bonneville is all about overcoming near defeat, again and again, and ultimately emerging victorious.

A big "thank you" to Rick Stoner and the guys at Westech Performance, to all the SCTA/BNI volunteers, to Rick MacLean who is always there to help, and to all the well wishers.

Willi
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 18, 2013, 06:05:32 PM
Speaking of "thank yous" -- if you have a minute and feel it's worth your while -- thank the big companies that were major SCTA sponsors at SpeedWeek.  They included Safety Kleen and JAZ and others whose names I don't remember right now - but they're on the SCTA website.  These companies contributed in large amount to the needed support (i.e. @@@) to help the SCTA put on the event, and some thanks for racers, crew, and spectators will help the companies feel that their money/support was well worth it.  Sorry I don't have those other names in my head -- will try to remember to look 'em up and pass them on to you.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dakin Engineering on August 18, 2013, 06:15:03 PM

Jon,
I'm known for being longwinded and a big mouth.
Be happy to give you some down time,

Once I'm in impound, of course... :cheers:

Sam
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 18, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Ironically in the 6 degrees of separation we had prayers today for Stoney. Wife plays piano and I guess his folks live here in the hills and attend our little country church!? She was blown away when she heard Bonneville in prayers...........might not have bode well for me, she is freaked that I will finish this thing.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 18, 2013, 11:11:08 PM
Fritz's ...great folks....I hear they got a great deal on a super place in Box Canyon...:)...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: firemanjim on August 19, 2013, 12:04:05 AM
Thanks for the updates on Stoney, guys, been worried about him.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JamesLaMere on August 19, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
Thanks for the replies on tubing/welding!

Posted a couple dozen add'l. photos in a new album. More focus on people & personalities in this set (including the gal who kept intruding into everyone else's shots) at:

http://www.facebook.com/jameslamere/media_set?set=a.10201938016839925.1073741854.1469690395&type=3

PS: Excellent slideshow Porkpie!! Thank you so much for using some of my photos of your Red Hat Runs!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

UPDATE: Excellent point Stan, so I just put them in another online album & sent you the link. Hope it works!
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

See ya on the Salt!
James LaMere
Denver, CO

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Stan Back on August 19, 2013, 06:30:02 PM
Son't know how to get there from the link you posted.  Join Facebook?  Nah!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Peter Jack on August 19, 2013, 08:35:05 PM
Don't know how to get there from the link you posted.  Join Facebook?  Nah!

I'm with you Stan. While there are a few things like this that I might enjoy I don't have to know everything about what all my "friends" are doing. I don't like TV either and the trend to "reality shows" makes it even worse. Why do so many people feel that everything they do is interesting and the whole world should know about it?

Guess this is what happens after you reach a certain age!

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: stwheeler on August 19, 2013, 09:08:05 PM
Don't know how to get there from the link you posted.  Join Facebook?  Nah!

I'm with you Stan. While there are a few things like this that I might enjoy I don't have to know everything about what all my "friends" are doing. I don't like TV either and the trend to "reality shows" makes it even worse. Why do so many people feel that everything they do is interesting and the whole world should know about it?

Guess this is what happens after you reach a certain age!

Pete


Amen
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 1212FBGS on August 19, 2013, 09:13:49 PM
Thank you to everyone who volunteered to make the 65th SpeedWeek a great event!

Question: why is 1 1/2" chrome-moly tubing considered inferior to 1 5/8" mild steel?
 
See you at World Finals!
James LaMere
Denver, CO

BTW: I will be doing some engineering studies on the 1 1/2" vs 1 5/8" tubing so if any one has any questions or comments PM me over the next few weeks.

I was crewing on XsStress @ Bonneville '32 Ford so no time for posts. CW & CCW spins @ 217 and a final pass @ 233. Not bad for a little deuce coupe!  :-o

I will put some pixs up later and will also be at BUB, WoS and Top Speed. Shoulda moved to Utah this year!  :-D



Hey Woody..... the SCTA guys are keepin me on and wont let me off the trailer due to the tubing issue.... i could use some help and sent ya a PM.... thanks Kent
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Hot Rod Lincoln on August 19, 2013, 11:49:33 PM
Son't know how to get there from the link you posted.  Join Facebook?  Nah!

News flash..... Stan you have over 3,000 posts, this is your FB.    :-o


Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JonAmo on August 20, 2013, 02:09:50 AM
A dedicated lane for "motorcycles only" would resolve most of the track condition safety issues for the bikes. With 2 serious bike crashes this year, SCTA should seriously consider this option, especially considering the large number of bikes being entered in this event nowadays.

Simple solution!


]

What does a bike lane solve? I gather nothing since they are still running on the same track... Its just another lane and doesn't solve anything. I don't get your rational. Maybe you can elaborate? If ANY rider doesn't like what he/she see's he/she is not obligated to go down the course. I have seen riders wait their turn and move themselves out of line because they did not like what they see, conditions etc. Kinda like the throttle works both ways.
I do not want any special treatment, I want to run with the cars just as it is, when its my turn to go, the track is mine and I can be anywhere I want on the course. It is part of the Bonneville experience, passion, history and the running with all my hero's of the salt. 

Jon
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: zurferjoe on August 20, 2013, 03:11:12 AM
Well, well -- a new record -- 40, count 'em 40 - private rental toilets.  Wow :-o :-o


What record are they going for ??
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RansomT on August 20, 2013, 05:35:49 AM
Son't know how to get there from the link you posted.  Join Facebook?  Nah!

And if folks actually knew just how much info Facebook gathers on where they go on the internet (grabs cookies) and sells to overseas companies, they would think twice about joining.   And folks wonder where does all that junk email come from .....
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JamesLaMere on August 20, 2013, 11:14:32 AM
Agree with other comments that Facebook is Evil; but its Easy to use. I take photographs which I GIVE to the car/bike owners. I post a link after events so people can contact me for their photos. I'd have preferred to post them in the photo section here, but can't figure out how it works 'cause I have a learning disability. If someone showed me how, I could. 'Nuff said.

Have a good year all, done posting here ('til after SW'14).
James LaMere
Denver, CO
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: joea on August 20, 2013, 11:22:29 AM
""Well, well -- a new record -- 40, count 'em 40 - private rental toilets.  Wow 
""

Hmmm.... one for each spin...?

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: 8pack on August 20, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
Sounds like they are going to releases me from the hospital tomorrow :cheers: They pulled the drain tube from my lung, no more O2 needed and I am walking without a walker today. Thank you for the prayers and wishes. Looking forward to getting home. My understanding is that the bike is still in very good condition. Thanks again.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Glen on August 20, 2013, 12:16:31 PM
Hoping you have a speedy recovery. :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 20, 2013, 01:58:40 PM
Those are two thoughts I don't want to put together...imagine spinning a Honey Bucket! That would define a "Nasty Spin."


""Well, well -- a new record -- 40, count 'em 40 - private rental toilets.  Wow 
""

Hmmm.... one for each spin...?


Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: wheelrdealer on August 20, 2013, 02:01:06 PM
8

Wishing you a speedy recovery. The fact that you are thinking about the condition of your bike I a good sign.

BR


Sounds like they are going to releases me from the hospital tomorrow :cheers: They pulled the drain tube from my lung, no more O2 needed and I am walking without a walker today. Thank you for the prayers and wishes. Looking forward to getting home. My understanding is that the bike is still in very good condition. Thanks again.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Finallygotit on August 20, 2013, 02:29:38 PM
Sounds like they are going to releases me from the hospital tomorrow :cheers: They pulled the drain tube from my lung, no more O2 needed and I am walking without a walker today. Thank you for the prayers and wishes. Looking forward to getting home. My understanding is that the bike is still in very good condition. Thanks again.

Thanks for the update and hope you have a speedy recovery.  Glad to hear the bike is in good shape.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: garys speed shop on August 20, 2013, 03:36:21 PM
Hey Ray the Rat and GH. I'm Gary Hart. I own the 8797 Ford T/O car.
 I bought the car in Jan. and all my friends jumped in the help go thru the car from front to back.
We did it so they all can get a chance at driving at Bonneville. Been coming the last 3 years to watch and couldn't stand it any more.
To say all you veterans and officials rolled out the white carpet would be an understatement.
The only bad part was the drive back to Ohio.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: nrhs sales on August 20, 2013, 04:07:04 PM
Airtech Kent.
You know I am pretty sure you can run that bike at Bubs just the way it is.  Just sayin!!!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: NathanStewart on August 20, 2013, 11:34:47 PM
You can run cars at BUB now??
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: grumm441 on August 21, 2013, 02:58:04 AM
 If they have three wheels  :-D
G
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Calkins on August 21, 2013, 09:02:11 AM
This thread is totally going off the end, and off topic.  So, I'll add to it...

I motor bike spinning the tire is still going to trench the course, just like the cars, right?  So, an all bike event or course is not going to change anything...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 21, 2013, 01:04:42 PM
Finally got some pixs posted: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111053800401265205999/albums/5914619327776635281
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Frankie7799 on August 21, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
Glad to hear JH, Stainless and Stoney are on the mend. Thanks for the update guys.

Think I saw Stan a couple of times while I was at the Red Flame for breakfast and lunch. At least Im thinking a guy in a safari hat with a San Berdoo Roadsters patch on the front of it and a front license plate to match on his truck might be Stan  :-)

Cant wait to go back next year although im sure the Wild Weasel will be done by then and Ill be busy doing between runs chores on it  :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rouse on August 21, 2013, 02:00:57 PM
Finally got some pixs posted: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111053800401265205999/albums/5914619327776635281

Well crap! Here I go being dumb on computers again. I try to look at the pictures you posted and the thing told me I didn't have permission to see them. Go figure.

Rouse
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: doug odom on August 21, 2013, 03:13:20 PM
Hey Woodie, I thought we were buddies. I also can't see your pictures because I don't have permission.

 See if I take you to dinner again. LOL

Doug Odom in big ditch
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 21, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
Google had an easy photo app and decided to improve it by forcing everyone to join and "share"!  :-( :-( :-( :-(

Try this one: https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/emlink?emr=10419415522446605177&emid=CLDil82yj7kCFYae3gody1wAAA&path=%2Fphotos%2F111053800401265205999%2Falbums%2F5914619327776635281%3Fgpinv%3DAMIXal8vXAIJmmwvCMC0MHSN6KLXzwGsNbVliD_CMKD24s05BvUgk3kDHy9ao4UVZ-7s6MJQxhkDNzhKnTP_J6CCa2zBNnpLcrHyuh2E-Su_4jT8DrJ4VYY%26authkey%3DCPTth8-I_vP7Fw&dt=1377117537730&uob=8
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Peter Jack on August 21, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
Thanks Woody. I always enjoy your pictures but I have an aversion to joining most sites as I explained in my rant the other day. Just getting old and cranky!  :evil: :evil: :-D

Pete
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: grumm441 on August 21, 2013, 04:44:49 PM
Thanks Woody
Great Pictures
I notice that "board tracker" with the Chinese pushrod engine makes an appearance
G
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rouse on August 21, 2013, 04:53:22 PM
Heck-fire even I could open all those. a lot of good pictures.

That 1448B SC/1650cc ran several runs over the record, but I didn't see any thing for backup runs. What's up with that?

Rouse
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Tman on August 21, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Woody, you should have said hi when you shot the 416 pickup, we never know who has the camera pointed at us!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Momec on August 22, 2013, 04:04:40 AM
Great pics Woody,

My favourite shot was pic 201, the Stress Coupe.
So many Nice shots. Thanks for sharing.

Chris
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: BHR301 on August 22, 2013, 01:32:36 PM
I was looking at the pictures that WOODY@DDLLC took and wondered if some one could tell who's car this is?
(pictures 104 thru 119)

Bill
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JR529 on August 22, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
Glad to hear JH, Stainless and Stoney are on the mend. Thanks for the update guys.

Think I saw Stan a couple of times while I was at the Red Flame for breakfast and lunch. At least Im thinking a guy in a safari hat with a San Berdoo Roadsters patch on the front of it and a front license plate to match on his truck might be Stan  :-)

Cant wait to go back next year although im sure the Wild Weasel will be done by then and Ill be busy doing between runs chores on it  :-D

It's always easy to find Stan, he's the guy with mischievous smirk on his face and a camera in his hands... It was good to hook up with him and chat at the goose in the evenings when he was done for the day.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Calkins on August 22, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
I was looking at the pictures that WOODY@DDLLC took and wondered if some one could tell who's car this is?
(pictures 104 thru 119)

Bill
Yea, and what is the powertrain?  Rotary??
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 22, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
I was looking at the pictures that WOODY@DDLLC took and wondered if some one could tell who's car this is?
(pictures 104 thru 119)

Bill

The car is Burton Brown's. He brought the Miller Welders to the salt. [Be sure to thank the Miller guy in Burton's post!] The engine is a one-off four banger. Go back and count the velocity stacks!  :-o Burton wants to run several engines in the liner. First is the four banger! We had a trans-axle to use but could not get things to jive with all the other configurations that will be tried. So we put the engine where it is and ran two belt drives to the desired drive axle position. This is the odd-duck and everything else will be more conventional. Just seeing if youse guys are paying attention.  :-D

(www.)victorymotorsports.org

The engine bent some valves just before leaving or it would have made some passes. Hope to run it at ECTA in September and maybe World Finals! Just proves you really have to want to do this!  :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rouse on August 22, 2013, 04:55:56 PM
That 4 banger has "8" velocity stacks? Whats up, are they running a separate port for each valve?

The shower head injectors look nice, fine work.

Rouse
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 22, 2013, 07:09:48 PM
Johnnie, we can't get anything past you guys!  :-D One port for swirl and one for tumble!   :cheers:

Ted Wenz at Savannah Race Engineering built the engine and if you go to the bottom of the photos you will see the dual swirl designer John Stowe and his baby. John wrote two articles for Race Engine Technology on his creation. 2.0L should be close to 400 HP NA on pump gas!  :-o

https://www.facebook.com/SavannahRaceEngineering/photos_stream
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Graham in Aus on August 22, 2013, 07:46:49 PM
I was looking at the pictures that WOODY@DDLLC took and wondered if some one could tell who's car this is?
(pictures 104 thru 119)

Bill

I was wondering about that too, no number?

What the *#* is that engine? two lots of inlets???  :?

Interesting twin belt drive too, formula car gearbox? Neat!
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Kiwi Paul on August 22, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
Yep--Burton`s car will be a good one. Was lucky to be able to bounce some ideas around with him and Sid and get the lay of the land there.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: rouse on August 23, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
Johnnie, we can't get anything past you guys!  :-D One port for swirl and one for tumble!   :cheers:


I get up pretty early in the morning and go to bed late. So if your going to get something past me, you'd better hide it better than that.

That said, I think its "COOL", lot of work, but "VERY COOL".

Rouse
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JamesLaMere on August 23, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
Thank You Slim! I appreciate your help!! I tried to e-mail reply to your message a couple days ago, but my reply was 'undeliverable'.

Took a couple days, but my Speed Week photos should be accessible here:

http://s908.photobucket.com/user/BonnevilleSalt/library/

http://s908.photobucket.com/user/BonnevilleSalt/slideshow/

So, if the links work, & you or your car or your bike are in one or more of the photos, & you'd like all of the hi-res jpeg & CR2 files I shot, please e-mail me at: 96fxd@hotmail.com

Thanks for your patience all!
James LaMere
Denver, CO



Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: PorkPie on August 23, 2013, 06:09:03 PM
James,

you got again a great eye for the view......well done, my friend....the camera is in a right hand..... :cheers:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jimmy six on August 23, 2013, 08:40:15 PM
Great shots including Scott holding the axle of the 422 while I remove the cover, the injector hat, and Charlie getting that last shut eye before the run.......JD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: JamesLaMere on August 23, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
Thanks Porkpie!! Thanks JD!!

James
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 25, 2013, 02:24:25 PM
Photos from SW 2013 are on my web server: http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2013/01-sw/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2013/01-sw/Welcome.html)

There are 4 sections: Quick Pix, The rest, Bad Manners and Rods & Kustoms.  The section names are pretty self explanatory, although I'll mention that the Bad Manners section was prompted by the abysmal shooting etiquette (lack thereof) at the starting lines, especially in the wake of HotRod (Larry)'s post here about the aforementioned subject.  Simply put, it was a whore's nightmare.  I'm gonna continue the rant in that Larry's thread, but you can see some pretty good examples here.

Hope you enjoy 'em,

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: mstrdinan on August 25, 2013, 02:42:04 PM
FANtastic group of pics...........thank you
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: manta22 on August 25, 2013, 03:38:23 PM
Nice photos, Ray. Maybe we need "Course Marshalls" to enforce the do-not-cross lines.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: trimmers on August 25, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Ray:

Great pix!  I'll see you in Tech at WoS, and I hereby challenge you to a new car 130MPH Club shootout there!  We'll have to do it on some kind of "Index of Performance", so as to give my little 2.0 4-banger econo-box a chance against your Camaro, though.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Stan Back on August 25, 2013, 05:50:52 PM
Mr. Therat --

Glad not to see my picture posted.  We all accidentally get in the way once in a while, and some of us know the difference.  I, too, was asked to help out.  I didn't seem to muster the authority, and asked a starter for backup in one instance and was denied.

I thought of bringing a chalkline marker, preferably not white, next year, but was afraid the BLM would incarcerate me for salt contamination.  I figured a 45º line would at least delineate the situation.  We'll just wait and see . . .
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 25, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Nice photos, Ray. Maybe we need "Course Marshalls" to enforce the do-not-cross lines.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

See my post in the "Etiquette" thread.  I think there IS a great need for crowd control, since this presents a real hazard to the untrained and could be a big insurance liability to SCTA.  I'd hate to see 'em slam the door on all photographers except for one official SCTA guy (no offense intended, Stan). 

On the last day of the meet I heard that someone blew the valve cover clean off the motor in his car at the line.  If there had been some untrained and otherwise un-credentialed photographer (or worse, his/her kid) too close...well, I don't even wanna think of what could happen.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 25, 2013, 07:35:40 PM
Mr. Therat --

Glad not to see my picture posted.  We all accidentally get in the way once in a while, and some of us know the difference.  I, too, was asked to help out.  I didn't seem to muster the authority, and asked a starter for backup in one instance and was denied.

I had the same experience.  I know the starters have their jobs to do and I know they do it well...but there has to be someone who can help get the great unwashed outta the way.  Btw, you were hardly ever even visible when I was shooting.  I hope I wasn't in your way, either.

Quote
I thought of bringing a chalkline marker, preferably not white, next year, but was afraid the BLM would incarcerate me for salt contamination.  I figured a 45º line would at least delineate the situation.  We'll just wait and see . . .

Yeah, marking the salt with chalk is probably as heinous a crime as driving an unlicensed ATV...30 lashes in Impound before the next day's return runs after spending the night in the stocks and having the crews throw sump oil on the criminal.   :evil:  LOL!

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: hotrod on August 25, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
Quote
On the last day of the meet I heard that someone blew the valve cover clean off the motor in his car at the line.  If there had been some untrained and otherwise un-credentialed photographer (or worse, his/her kid) too close...well, I don't even wanna think of what could happen.

The average weekend tourist photographer has no clue what can happen when 2000+ angry horsepower is suddenly able to run free.
In the '70's I was shooting at a local drag strip (before they had restraining straps and blow out panels on blowers).
One of the rails launched a blower about 30' in the air just as he passed me. My ears were ringing for a couple days.

That same year I got to watch a drive line doing end over ends trying to catch the Chevelle it belonged to, right after the Ford racing the Chevelle had tossed a rod through the side of the block. The Chevelle driver's sudden throttle lift when he saw the engine turn into shrapnel, made the U-joints check out and go home.

I would hate to see someone get hurt due to that sort of mishap. It happens so fast its over before your mind assembles what happened.

PLEASE anyone near a high power race car accelerating -- respect what you are watching there is a huge amount of power looking for the weak link in the chain. Don't put yourself at risk without understanding this can happen.

Crankshaft dampers turn into frisbees, whole cranks and rod sets go walk about, clutches turn into smoke.

That is why the experienced pros tend to get those tight shots with a telephoto rather than stuffing a 50mm lens in somebody's cockpit.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 26, 2013, 04:44:11 PM
Speedweek 2013 Recap

I am glad that SCTA provides as much data as we see. Still sad that the SCTA doesn’t list anything before 2006.

That goes for failed record attempts also. If you make a down/qualifying run every run is listed.

If you set a record it’s listed. If you qualify and don’t set a record the run never happened.

If Poteet and Main run over 400 but don’t set a record it wouldn’t be listed. It would be nice to have all runs.

If it wasn’t for the run logs we never would have seen Chris Conrad’s 10 runs

Poteet and Main did run over 400

6 runs over 400
The rest:
8 runs over 300
108 over 200 on the short course -  11 records over 200
272 over 200 on the long course – 11 records over 200

1376 runs 100-200 on the short course – 93 records 100-200
216 runs 100-200 on the long course – 7 records 100-200

318 runs >100 on the short course – 41 records >100
1 run >100 on the short course

258 runs that didn’t have a time on the short course. As previously noted the comments disappeared mid week.
0 runs that didn’t have a time on the long course . . . Hmmm . . .

# is the number of runs over 400 for Poteet and Main. Using speeds posted on the Internet. One of their crew noted that #29 that I have, was their 30th 400 run. 32-33 so who’s counting?

VehEngineBodyEntry NameQuarterMile1Mile2Mile3ExitFastest
#277151C     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon333.981355.084403.971436.140448.942436.140
#28715B     BFS    Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"324.169345.322395.899430.690443.656430.690
#291715D     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon322.655343.284392.174424.748432.988424.748
#301715D     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon322.254342.391388.352418.763433.197418.763
#31715B     BFS    Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"321.753340.661387.720410.767414.548410.767

Record
VehEntry NameEngineBody Old RecordNew RecordDriver Name
#327151Poteet & Main Speed DemonC     BFS    390.709437.183George Poteet
You did notice that the Vesco Turbinator record was 427?


10 fastest long course records
VehEntry NameEngineBody Old RecordNew RecordDriver Name
7151Poteet & Main Speed DemonC     BFS    390.709437.183George Poteet
1936Bonnieville BobAA    GRMR   0.000257.612Rocky Jackson (2)
1429Hot Rod HoodlumsC     FRMR   224.470256.459Corey Severa
1636BC RacingAA    CBGALT 249.741255.382Roger Beckman
80Hizer Racing SpiritsB     BGMS   231.516250.563Paul Powell (2)
9997Salt Cat RacingXO    BGL    211.102241.502Doug Grieve
4240Hondata CRXH     BFCC   232.585238.221Miriam Macmillan
1584Hot Rod HoodlumsB     GR     232.346234.398Troy Hutcheson
369Waters, Manghelli & RomeroF     BGR    224.007231.358Lee Kennedy

10 fastest short course records
VehEntry NameEngineBody Old RecordNew RecordDriver Name
54Spirit of JoshuaC     FRMR   224.470247.963Anthony Young
4240Hondata CRXH     BFCC   220.258232.585Miriam Macmillan
8269BJim Hoogerhyde / SFMC1000CCAPS-F  221.583222.850Suzuki
1648BSan Diego Motorcycles1000CCAPS-F  221.583222.756
4941Aardema Braun GoetzV4    BFL    207.829222.316Scott L. Goetz
8269BJim Hoogerhyde / SFMC1000CCAPS-F  218.323221.583Suzuki
4449Jesel Landspeed TeamB     BMP    0.000219.509Jimmy Barton
89Chopped NutsB     BGRMR  0.000212.521Ed Umland
494Aardema - Braun & GoetzV4    BGL    153.790211.061Scott Goetz

30 fastest long course down runs
VehEngineBodyEntry NameQuarterMile1Mile2Mile3ExitFastest
7151C     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon333.981355.084403.971436.140448.942436.140
715B     BFS    Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"324.169345.322395.899430.690443.656430.690
1715D     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon322.655343.284392.174424.748432.988424.748
1715D     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon322.254342.391388.352418.763433.197418.763
715B     BFS    Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"321.753340.661387.720410.767414.548410.767
1715D     BFS    Poteet & Main Speed Demon325.395340.348365.120381.390384.605381.390
7800A     BFS    Dalton, Jackson & Mayer304.355313.531340.983369.163382.689369.163
126E     GCC    Cohn Jucewic Monza188.261192.944200.978363.7960.000363.796
7800A     BFS    Dalton, Jackson & Mayer279.655287.342310.373336.166350.114336.166
506AA    BFL    Wolfe-Strasburg-Hiltunen269.657285.051315.86192.6840.000315.861
506AA    BFL    Wolfe-Strasburg-Hiltunen262.720266.017285.534313.154326.481313.154
7800A     BFS    Dalton, Jackson & Mayer297.760310.089234.605119.10287.692310.089
7800A     BFS    Dalton, Jackson & Mayer290.854299.563269.154111.44752.388299.563
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow260.206273.323296.995299.460305.592299.460
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow260.720273.443299.189286.679281.721299.189
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow249.000257.941283.374297.126304.623297.126
911C     BFR    Cummins-Beck-Davidson-Thornsberry271.914279.359295.411255.534218.257295.411
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow250.950261.000281.990290.863298.502290.863
146C     GS     Mariani Farms241.027254.945289.708284.507231.700289.708
125B     BFCC   Track Master Fab Spl233.236246.713275.490287.699286.599287.699
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow235.074240.992265.814287.120296.274287.120
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow256.184263.229271.137286.994296.337286.994
4441C     FS     Vesco Racing - Sanderson232.256243.966271.395285.708285.261285.708
1690F     GS     Barnyard Bearcat242.006250.625272.344282.515287.175282.515
6142C     GL     Original Fast Guys II245.597254.659270.166277.695279.881277.695
44C     FS     DRM Racing242.367253.301277.670219.140159.250277.670
3838A     BGMS   Vinson / Allison Gang217.424234.329266.787276.629278.521276.629
911C     BFR    Cummins-Beck-Davidson-Thornsberry245.172256.853276.421236.210188.387276.421
6142C     GL     Original Fast Guys II245.732254.588269.498275.594278.212275.594

30 fastest short course down runs
VehEngineBodyEntry NameQuarterMile1Mile2FastestComment
7800A     BFS    Dalton, Jackson & Mayer289.781242.478313.945313.945
420AA    BFL    Got Salt Racing279.323243.242287.954287.954
998AA    FS     Nish Motorsports264.325225.541278.129278.129
911C     BFR    Cummins-Beck-Davidson-Thornsberry261.821228.674272.676272.676
444B     FS     Vesco - Sanderson257.061221.417268.570268.570
989AA    DS     Chassis Engineering Special250.689218.964265.969265.969
920D     BGMR   Contrivance Special254.305218.943265.264265.264
420AA    BFL    Got Salt Racing255.761227.583264.425264.425
77AA    GL     No Nitro Hammond243.285213.093254.202254.202
608AA    GL     Dauernheim-Biglow245.328218.540251.234251.234
125B     BFCC   Track Master Fab Spl242.159212.344247.811247.811
54C     FRMR   Spirit of Joshua242.839219.353245.055245.055
77AA    GL     No Nitro Hammond230.900200.425244.199244.199
66C     FR     BMR Racing232.656210.386244.032244.032turn in
151B     BGL    Bacik Blanchard York234.961202.145243.056243.056Turn In 3 3/4
77AA    GL     No Nitro Hammond242.271219.071240.055240.055
4449B     BMP    Jesel Landspeed Team229.993207.466239.785239.785
635AA    GMR    Salty Dogs Racing251.181239.042229.210239.042
1113     T      Team Vesco MTT219.720235.374147.933235.374
9908B     FRMR   Joseph Boivin228.217212.015234.009234.009
151B     BGL    Bacik Blanchard York242.596221.490232.964232.964
636AA    CBGC   BC Racing221.731196.153232.237232.237
9908B     FRMR   Joseph Boivin227.560211.673232.111232.111
700C     BFMR   Logan & Dincau223.748204.094231.763231.763
700C     BFMR   Logan & Dincau227.332203.840231.581231.581
7272AA    GT     Carter's Family Flyer229.564207.909230.790230.790
4449B     BMP    Jesel Landspeed Team217.137202.028229.200229.200
37C     CFALT  D. Gene McKeen222.387204.423225.999225.999
4449B     BMP    Jesel Landspeed Team225.265204.825225.786225.786Turn Out

Can’t finish without recording laps.

As noted, Chris Conrad made 10 runs, as did 10 others
21 cars made 10 runs or more.
23 bikes made 10 runs or more.
10 made 11 runs
6 made 12
4 made 13
3 made 14
3 made 15
3 made 16
Top 4:
17   1188B      Shinya Kimura
17   1940B      Thrillrides Racing
19   731B      Pit Bul
and the winner is:      
21   512B      Ron Shincke      

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: sabat on August 26, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
Great data, thanks very much. Do you post your Excel spreadsheets? I'm sure you spend a considerable amount of time assembling these databases. -Dean
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RichFox on August 26, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
126   E        GCC       Cohn Jucewic Monza   188.261   192.944   200.978   363.796   0.000   363.796         That is one fast Monza
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 26, 2013, 07:04:18 PM
Wow.  He must have really stood on it to pick up 163 mph in the last mile. :evil:
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: salt27 on August 26, 2013, 07:09:16 PM
That last mile is down hill do to the curvature of the earth.  :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: salt on August 26, 2013, 07:52:59 PM
Our "Kraut Bros." D/RMR made 16 passes down the salt with 5 different drivers, resulting in 9 new licenses and 1 new record . . .
Wondering if this might have been the most runs for a car?

Willi
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: superleggera on August 26, 2013, 08:13:36 PM
On the last day of the meet I heard that someone blew the valve cover clean off the motor in his car at the line.  If there had been some untrained and otherwise un-credentialed photographer (or worse, his/her kid) too close...well, I don't even wanna think of what could happen.

Ardun head equipped roadster on return run upon startup.  I was behind the line waiting with another competitor to pull forward to go down #1.  If this was on course #2 earlier in the week with the usual crowd, someone would have gotten dinged mightily.  Fortunately nobody was there this time.

One credentialed photographer almost got drove over on #2 earlier in the week.  He was directly behind the competition car that took off -- and down in front of the crew truck taking pictures not realizing the crew would follow immediately.  Fortunately another photographer stopped the crew truck from driving over him but they did knock him over...
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: jimmy six on August 26, 2013, 09:24:35 PM
Good thing I don't make the timing tags any longer....Robbie won't get a 363 from me....
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 26, 2013, 09:26:06 PM
Good reporting Superleg.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: grumm441 on August 26, 2013, 10:20:33 PM
Maybe there needs to be a rookie orientation for photographers
G
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: hotrod on August 26, 2013, 10:32:19 PM
The more experienced photographers are definitely concerned about this sort of thing.

That is why we posted the thread on professional photographer behavior prior to speed week this year.
If SCTA wants to do that for first time photographers getting their credentials I would certainly support it if asked.

Or produce a quick media briefing paper to be handed out with credentials about the unique aspects of land racing and how photographers should approach taking photographs without interfering with the race crews, officials or getting themselves in dangerous places without being aware of the risks they might be taking.

By our very nature racing photographers accept certain risks to get our shots, but that must be informed consent and a reasonable understanding of the risks involved.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: PorkPie on August 27, 2013, 05:15:45 AM
for an old veteran photographer at the salt it was a frustrated experience.

Around the startingline....some of the not credential photographer understand our concern and walked back, only that five other walked into the press area.

you can't kick them all out, otherwise you will have no time to make picture.... :roll:

but also the credential photographer was sometimes a pain in the Acura.....they stand (for hours) on the same place, block the view or creates bad shades...when ask him to move a little bit they didn't listen and just stand still on the place...sometimes you have to be very polite... :roll:...or you got the luck that a other photographer tells him more polite..."move your Dodge...."

At last I left the starting line and went out on the course...making low speed picture between 1 and 1 1/2 mile....in the beginning there was no chance to make proper parachute picture on course 1....the pit was so long that the parachute/racer disappeared in the pit....no way...the last day, when the pit start to empty I could pick the Speed Demon on his 451 mph run from the 5 1/2 at the center boulevard.

The situation with the credential photographer went a little bit out of controll. Press, yes, but please with the right equipment. On Monday I had a "press" at the 5 1/2...mountain side on course 1....with a 200 dollar video camera.....oops....no CB.....when I talked to him....oh, CB necessary...this guy didn't know that there is radio channel....and he parked direct on the big sign which said...CB required....hard to read...
His driver tried to give me the s h i t....bad luck man....I can be very polite if necessary...but the press guy understand at last and went back to the pit...

As Ray and Larry said wrote before....one day someone will be hurt...and than we are in trouble
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: octane on August 27, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Next time Ray; here's what you should do;
scream at them hysterically ... in German...like this:

http://youtu.be/PbcctWbC8Q0?t=3m22s

THAT will scare them away...fastlike... Guarantied.

.-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 27, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
Next time Ray; here's what you should do;
scream at them hysterically ... in German...like this:

http://youtu.be/PbcctWbC8Q0?t=3m22s

THAT will scare them away...fastlike... Guarantied.

.-)

LOL!  Since there were a coupla folks shooting photos with iPads, I spose I coulda grabbed wonna those and smacked that geek with the striped shorts severely about the head and body.  :)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Calkins on August 27, 2013, 10:46:18 PM
Hey Freud,

Triumph posted this photo on their Facebook page on the 22nd...   :roll:


Greetings from Bonneville.

(https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1236654_10151529211475518_1378253733_n.jpg)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Calkins on August 27, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
Then, someone posted this as a response...

(https://sphotos-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1229932_10201044054957860_293393843_n.jpg)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Freud on August 28, 2013, 12:01:21 AM
Triumph is 38 years late.......

The president is from another century.

FREUD
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: octane on August 28, 2013, 02:26:00 AM
Next time Ray; here's what you should do;
scream at them hysterically ... in German...like this:

http://youtu.be/PbcctWbC8Q0?t=3m22s

THAT will scare them away...fastlike... Guarantied.

.-)

LOL!  Since there were a coupla folks shooting photos with iPads, I spose I coulda grabbed wonna those and smacked that geek with the striped shorts severely about the head and body.  :)


Sorry Ray. My mistake; that comment was for PorkPie.
No offence, but I'm quite sure his German is better than yours.

.-)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: octane on August 28, 2013, 02:57:10 AM
Deleted.

I COMPLETELY misunderstood the post I was commenting on.
.
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: RayTheRat on August 28, 2013, 03:39:26 AM
Next time Ray; here's what you should do;
scream at them hysterically ... in German...like this:

http://youtu.be/PbcctWbC8Q0?t=3m22s

THAT will scare them away...fastlike... Guarantied.

.-)

LOL!  Since there were a coupla folks shooting photos with iPads, I spose I coulda grabbed wonna those and smacked that geek with the striped shorts severely about the head and body.  :)


Sorry Ray. My mistake; that comment was for PorkPie.
No offence, but I'm quite sure his German is better than yours.

.-)

I know enough German and body language to get the point.  :)  But yeah, PP speaks his native tongue much better than I do.

The temper tantrum in the video was pretty funny.

Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: PorkPie on August 28, 2013, 04:52:16 AM
Next time Ray; here's what you should do;
scream at them hysterically ... in German...like this:

http://youtu.be/PbcctWbC8Q0?t=3m22s

THAT will scare them away...fastlike... Guarantied.

.-)

LOL!  Since there were a coupla folks shooting photos with iPads, I spose I coulda grabbed wonna those and smacked that geek with the striped shorts severely about the head and body.  :)


Sorry Ray. My mistake; that comment was for PorkPie.
No offence, but I'm quite sure his German is better than yours.

.-)

I know enough German and body language to get the point.  :)  But yeah, PP speaks his native tongue much better than I do.

The temper tantrum in the video was pretty funny.



Ray was long enough in Germany....maybe too long...that he can work it out properly.....and very polite....iPad way..... :roll: :cheers: :-D
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: Brootal on September 05, 2013, 11:50:20 AM
Photos from SW 2013 are on my web server: http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2013/01-sw/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2013/01-sw/Welcome.html)

There are 4 sections: Quick Pix, The rest, Bad Manners and Rods & Kustoms.  The section names are pretty self explanatory, although I'll mention that the Bad Manners section was prompted by the abysmal shooting etiquette (lack thereof) at the starting lines, especially in the wake of HotRod (Larry)'s post here about the aforementioned subject.  Simply put, it was a whore's nightmare.  I'm gonna continue the rant in that Larry's thread, but you can see some pretty good examples here.

Hope you enjoy 'em,



Cool, you got a shot of me at Bonneville! :)

(http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2013/01-sw/03-badmanners/20130815_3646.jpg)

Seriously though, even if all of 'those' people weren't in the way, what do you want a photo with all that crap in the background for?

I'm pretty sure this is one of the shots I took, and as you can see, I was quite a way back from the edge of the track. That long lens you're using is obviously compressing the image quite a bit and making it look like we're right on top of the car.

(http://www.the-rumbler.com/Bonneville 2013/Bonneville13_194.JPG)

What's just as annoying is the fluoro vests in the background of so many of the shots. I understand the need to be able to identify people quickly and easily, but do the people on the Moon need to see us as well? Maybe a more sympathetic, but still easily visible colour could be an option?

This whole, "Put fluoro on and she'll be right, mate" safety thing has got out of hand.

Of course, later on in the week it was much easier to get a nice clean shot. I thought this one was a cracker!

(http://www.the-rumbler.com/Bonneville 2013/Bonneville13_214.JPG)
Title: Re: SpeedWeek 2013 - the event
Post by: typo41 on October 09, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
A bit late, I am sure. But I got to see my green vest and Acura, as for 'being in the shot" I stand on the line and I look over to the right and I see the line of photographers standing way back there with thier extreme long lenses, and I ask myself,,, what image are they hoping for? A tele compresses the distance, why not just come up to the line and slip on a wide angle? Or are you going for clean shot of only the vehicle moving down the couse without the push vehicle? Which would be past the start line.You could get the same shot at the one or at the timing tower. I shoot vehicles with the team members, racing is more than just pretty pictures of vehicles. And where do I find the team members doing what they do best, getting the drivers and vehicles down the course? The Start Line
So I am sorry if I am in your shot, but come on its a full week and I could also take pictures of photographers in the way, but what does it prove or change? Speed Week is the largest most exciting 'racing' event that almost any photographer worth his 'salt' is allowed to stand next to dangerous vehicles, be allowed to acess the pits with out giving up a first born. We get to  meet and become friends with a great bunch of people, and did any of you actually 'miss' a shot that would have been carreer changing? Do some things need to be address? Yes show up to a SCTA Board meeting and express your views.