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Title: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: ronnieroadster on July 19, 2013, 04:48:17 PM
Presently Im using 4 inch wide non offset Centerline wheels on the front of my lakester the tire is an M&H frontrunner I would like to move the tire postion closer to the king pin centerline to help improve stability.  The 15 inch diameter wheel I use with five on 4.5 bolt circle is not offered with any offset by Centerline.
   I have seen aluminum front wheels on various LSR vehicles which look like the space saver wheels that carry the spare tire on late modle cars. The offset of this type of wheel I think will work for me.
  Would anyone know of a possible space saver wheel which is 15 inch diameter and five on 4.5 bolt circle?   
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: 38flattie on July 19, 2013, 04:57:52 PM
Ron, I was thinking the same thing! I spent half a day at a junk yard, looking for what I needed, to no avail.

Stan Back sent me the following cointact, and I ordered custom rims from them: Raymond at Chariot Spring & Wheel in Fontana 909-357-8195

I hope this helps!
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: 38flattie on July 19, 2013, 04:58:20 PM
Ron, I was thinking the same thing! I spent half a day at a junk yard, looking for what I needed, to no avail.

Stan Back sent me the following contact, and I ordered custom rims from them: Raymond at Chariot Spring & Wheel in Fontana 909-357-8195

I hope this helps!

Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Ron Gibson on July 19, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
I used 55 Ford hubs which were not as wide as the early hubs and had 5 X 4.5 bolt pattern. Had the spindles machined to fit. Then used 90 Ford Probe mini spare wheels. The mini spare wheel is the same gauge as the others. I fully welded them on the back side. My scrub went from 1.75 inch per side to about .125. Hope this helps.

Ron

Ps I did need to enlarge the bolt holes as they were for 12 MM studs.
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Stan Back on July 19, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
As I recall, he only had 4-1/2 hoops, but they've worked for me.
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Stan Back on July 19, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
In fact, they, along with the 22-inch M&Hs, gave me a Red Hat.  And the first time I could say I was steering, not just wishing.
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: 38flattie on July 19, 2013, 06:23:46 PM
As I recall, he only had 4-1/2 hoops, but they've worked for me.

Yep, that's correct. He did get us max offset, though!
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: maj on July 19, 2013, 07:00:13 PM
Not common at all for you guys but we have several options over here
one of our fords was a dedicated gas (propane) car used 15x4 with 4.5" and i'm told Nissan s14 space savers are the same
  this may help http://www.wheelsupport.com/bolt-pattern-list-5-x-114-3/

trolling wreckers atm looking at options for our  bike liner
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Podunk on July 19, 2013, 07:06:55 PM
Mid 80's ? Lincoln space savers are 15x4, one piece fully machined aluminum . Get a hold of Hot Rod Lincoln. Last year he told me he thought he had some.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: jimmy six on July 19, 2013, 07:16:09 PM
Stan is correct if you read it on steering.    M&H front runners 22's or 24's can make a good ride out of an unpleasant one.........
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: ronnieroadster on July 19, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
Great information from everyone. Being able to steer and not wish that would be great Stan thanks.
 Buddy I should check the local wrecking yards if I don't find anything I will call Raymond. I have some time to look before heading to Wilmington in September. Podunk any idea how to get a hold of Hot Rod Lincoln can you send me a PM if you do?
 Last weekend in Loring just past the mile it became a handful the front air dam helped up to this new speed but now I need more changes as she gets faster. Set the mile record at 172.6 and the car was still pulling. Four runs on the new motor and everyone has been over 170 to the mile. :cheers:
Thanks everyone for the information.
   Ronnieroadster
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Podunk on July 19, 2013, 08:32:41 PM
Sent 2 PMs.
Terry
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: salt27 on July 19, 2013, 08:54:45 PM
I have had success finding space saver wheels at the local tire shops.

They will usually give them away.

5 on 4.5, look at Mazda and Toyota cars.

Hope this helps, Don
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Ron Gibson on July 20, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
Lincoln wheels are rear wheel drive. If you need offset you need front wheel drive wheels, Probe Mazda etc. or specialty wheels.

Ron
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: Sumner on July 20, 2013, 10:44:10 AM
You might also try Marsh....

http://www.mrt-wheels.com/

I got my wheels there and I think Hooley did also.  They had by far the best pricing I could find at the time.  If they still make b'ville wheels it would at least be worth the time to get a quote from them,

Sum
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: 8 on July 21, 2013, 12:11:36 AM
try 1990s mustang spare tire wheelsthey are what you asked for, cheap, and strong.  I know a guy that runs them on the rear of his 227 mph record holding lakester at elmirage. he says the work great and cover the brakes
Title: Re: Need 4 inch wide wheels 15 inch diameter five hole 4.5 circle offset inward
Post by: JimL on July 21, 2013, 12:50:48 AM
I used the Centerlines with top-hat shaped hubs that moved the wheel inboard.  It was a simple lathe job that used my original bearings in the thick aluminum hub.  A local custom wheel manufacturer did them.

I dont know what it cost, it was a donation to the project.   It works with rear steering arms, but probably not with a tie rod in front.