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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: fastlammy on May 13, 2013, 06:22:03 AM
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Hi All
I'm still in the planning stages of his build at the moment and will be for some time,but have decided to start a build diary to assist with it.I first traveled to bonneville from New Zealand in 03 and again in 08,its definatly a place that has left a long lasting inpression on me, along with Lambretta's speed achivements in the 50's
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At this stage i have collected some rims and tires, and currently working on drawings of the body and and collecting parts for the engine,
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drawing of the body
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Bits being collected for the engine
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Next month im travelling to Australia for work and to watch a little drag racing and will be meeting Jon to take a look at his liner and Ross Browns, hopfully this help answer some of my questions and inspire me on my build
Cheers for looking
Nicholai
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That's cool man.
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Pretty cool.
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Looks cool Nicholai as others have said.
What are you making from the block of alloy under the barrel?
Is the transmission in the swingarm?
Look forward to meeting you next month.
jon
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Looks cool Nicholai as others have said.
What are you making from the block of alloy under the barrel?
Is the transmission in the swingarm?
Look forward to meeting you next month.
jon
Hi Jon
Going to make a head with the alloy,something a little bigger than stock,
the gearbox is in the rear of the engine casing with the clutch and is driven from the crank with a chain.
Yes me to, look forward to checking out your machine.
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That is brilliant. :cheers:
What are those tyres??
Pete
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That is brilliant. :cheers:
What are those tyres??
Pete
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Michelin Air craft tires off a small passenger Jet.
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One of the driving forces behind my build is the history of MG in land speed racing. It appears that you, too, have found a historical touchstone as inspiration. When progress eludes you, you'll find that sustaining.
I've also found that maintaining the build diary keeps you focused. I've seen so many that start off, and after 3 or 4 months, we never hear from them again.
Don't let that happen.
Press on, regardless!
:cheers:
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One of the driving forces behind my build is the history of MG in land speed racing. It appears that you, too, have found a historical touchstone as inspiration. When progress eludes you, you'll find that sustaining.
I've also found that maintaining the build diary keeps you focused. I've seen so many that start off, and after 3 or 4 months, we never hear from them again.
Don't let that happen.
Press on, regardless!
:cheers: .
Thanks for your input MM, i was going to hold off starting this build thread for a while as i dont intend starting with construction till at least mid next year or when ever my current project is finished (having just about finished one at the moment and diving head first in to the current) But Jon has informed me he has found his a great help with his project, so ive decided to push on and as you have mentioned i think this will help with keeping momentium.
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Go Nicholai!...looks like you've got the right ingredients, inspiration, something that we all know that you have to get out of your system and the tools to do the job. The renders look nice, a little more tail?....A build diary is indispensable, the advice and support you get with the ability to go back and read about what you were thinking or doing with your build is a great way to get through the low points , and you'll have them.
We're with you on this one. :cheers:
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You might want to check with the organizers, wherever you plan to run. Motorcycles are required to run minimum of 15" wheels (I haven't checked DLRA). AMA/Bub let some scooters run last year, but they had to run in "Production" class, I believe.
Tom
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There's a scooter entered for SCTA-BNI SpeedWeek -- it has 15" wheels. Other concerns of SCTA are steering dampers and front axle retention.
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You might want to check with the organizers, wherever you plan to run. Motorcycles are required to run minimum of 15" wheels (I haven't checked DLRA). AMA/Bub let some scooters run last year, but they had to run in "Production" class, I believe.
Tom
Thanks Stream liner can run 10" wheel.
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There's a scooter entered for SCTA-BNI SpeedWeek -- it has 15" wheels. Other concerns of SCTA are steering dampers and front axle retention.
Thanks other than the engine, all other parts for this project will be fabricated to meet DLRA,SCTA or BUB rules.
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There's a scooter entered for SCTA-BNI SpeedWeek -- it has 15" wheels. Other concerns of SCTA are steering dampers and front axle retention.
Thanks other than the engine, all other parts for this project will be fabricated to meet DLRA,SCTA or BUB rules.
Nicholai... let me amend your statement.. it reads Thanks all of this project will be fabricated to meet DLRA,SCTA and BUB rules
Keep designing, collecting and gathering, that is the first step in building
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There's a scooter entered for SCTA-BNI SpeedWeek -- it has 15" wheels. Other concerns of SCTA are steering dampers and front axle retention.
Thanks other than the engine, all other parts for this project will be fabricated to meet DLRA,SCTA or BUB rules.
Nicholai... let me amend your statement.. it reads Thanks all of this project will be fabricated to meet DLRA,SCTA and BUB rules
Keep designing, collecting and gathering, that is the first step in building
Cheers Stainless1 thanks!
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You might want to check with the organizers, wherever you plan to run. Motorcycles are required to run minimum of 15" wheels (I haven't checked DLRA). AMA/Bub let some scooters run last year, but they had to run in "Production" class, I believe.
Tom
was not sure that A scooter had 15 inch wheels.
bf
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Nicholai... let me amend your statement.. it reads Thanks all of this project will be fabricated to meet DLRA,SCTA and BUB rules
Keep designing, collecting and gathering, that is the first step in building
Good advice - you see a piece you can use, grab it. I had the factory hardtop for the Midget years before I had a car to bolt it to.
And do keep an eye on the rule changes - Streamliner special construction bikes were almost all but outlawed last winter - Thanks to a few aware builders, they wound up getting the rule rescinded - at least for the time being.
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Hi All
Well like all good projects this one has to start some where, so the first project is building a test rig to run my 175 engine in.
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picked this up for free from a friend,was an Electric scooter, but its not to badly made, and will do what i need.
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I don't want to throw a monkey wrench into your gears, especially as I don't have a DLRA nor a SCTA rulebook available. But AMA/BUB specify the following for motorcycle motors: "All classes are to use motorcycle engines. A motorcycle engine is defined as any motor that was specifically designed for use in a motorcycle."
So the question is, does a scooter qualify as a motorcycle? There was quite a discussion elsewhere on this forum about the use of mini-bike motors and the general consensus seemed to be that a mini-bike wasn't a motorcycle. Perhaps your rules are different, or you have already got this clarified.
Tom
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thanks Koncretekid, at this point i havent checked that, i really just want to build this first and make sure my engine is going to make the power i want and need it to before committing time and money to a much bigger project.
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I would call a Lambretta engine a motorcycle engine
It's what the local road safety regulations call it
So that has you covered for DLRA
So now we have to ask Matt
G
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thanks Koncretekid, at this point i havent checked that, i really just want to build this first and make sure my engine is going to make the power i want and need it to before committing time and money to a much bigger project.
Absolutely! Life's uncertain. Go fast now!
Tom
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Hi All
Just come back from a short holiday and research trip to Brisbane Australia,What a great trip, spend half a a day doing business followed by two days at Willowbank drag-way for there winternationals.On the last day of of my short trip we we were hosted by Jon Bennett and wife Belinda and Ross Brown, Big thank you for your hospitality.
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Photos from the last day
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Me in Ross's Awesome machine
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Do you think Ross will be able to get into it?
G
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Must say it was a struggle for me, and im only a few inches taller than him.Shes a tight fit!
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Must say it was a struggle for me, and im only a few inches taller than him.Shes a tight fit!
I wasn't thinking about taller
G
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HaHa :-D
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Thanks for calling in Nicholai, enjoyed catching up with you and Ray at Ross's and at Belinda's and mine.
I have no doubt you have the skills to put together a well thought out and constructed machine looking at you and your friends current and past projects.
Looking forward to watching your build and keeping in touch.
Cheers
jon
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thanks For the DVDs Jon, started watching them last night, very interesting and will be of great use.
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Well have been a lil quite for a while but have been busy, but not as much with this project as i would like!
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Been trying to sort out my recently finished vespa, has taken a lil longer than ive hped a will need to go back for another dyno as we had an electrical problem last time, which stopped us final tuning the igntech ECU, any way just waiting on a new exhaust from Germany and it will be back to the dyno.
got a free Sunday so started some machine work on the engine for the test rig.
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machined the side cover down to remover the kick start, going to make a rolling starter.
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Here is the start of the billet head for the motor, as you an see it is a lot larger than the standard head to aid cooling, im also currently looking for info on Kawasaki H1 pistons, im currently considering using a wiesco version for this motor but need to find if the ring pegs are in the right place, so if any one has any info or can point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated.
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What size bore?
Dont make an aircooled cylinder. It is not worth the anguish.
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60mm makr, engine is going to be 60x 60, yes i was going to keep it air cooled, but it is going to be run on methanol
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Good to see you back Nicholai.
I would vote for a water jacket too, keeping heat under control is a whole lot easier with water.
jon
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Thanks Jon,
Slowly making progress, got a crank coming for the motor, going to have another chat with my tuner and see if thinks. I need to jacket the barrel was hoping not to if i ran it on methanol, but i can see your and makr's point .