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Title: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 12:02:37 PM
Starting to prepare my Buick 56S for bonneville in august =)
After visiting races in october 2012, i made a decision about 2013
It's very hard to be a hot rodder in Russia, but we are trying
Engine - flathead 289, trans tremec tko-5
Right now intalling a roll cage and have a lot of questions =)
(http://cs307609.vk.me/v307609676/6718/jJiM90m7QTI.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 12:08:58 PM
oh forget old look of my car =)
(http://cs308218.vk.me/v308218676/6ea8/f8z6ewB5m2Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: tauruck on March 12, 2013, 12:21:05 PM
Hey ZZ, that car looks great already. Welcome to the forum. Mike. :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: lsrjunkie on March 12, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
WAY COOL!! Welcome zz.  :cheers: Looking forward to this one. It already looks awesome. As for any questions, ask away! I have found the gents aropund here to be very helpful!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
WAY COOL!! Welcome zz.  :cheers: Looking forward to this one. It already looks awesome. As for any questions, ask away! I have found the gents aropund here to be very helpful!
Thankx!!! A lot of questions about roll cage =)) We want to do light version, but Tech Support... ))))
thanks to Mike for support!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on March 12, 2013, 01:43:25 PM
Прекрасно!

Mike
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: TwinSpin on March 12, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
Zdravstvuj zzgarage,

I don't speak Russian, but I'm glad you speak hot rod. Welcome to this forum.

There are plenty of friends here to help answer any and all questions on your build and how to prepare it for tech inspection. Plus, I'm sure some have ideas and experience of how to ship you racer to Bonneville.

Your Buick will be a one of a kind on the salt. Best wishes, the fun has already started.


Bill
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 12, 2013, 02:20:58 PM
Zdravstvuj zzgarage,

I don't speak Russian, but I'm glad you speak hot rod. Welcome to this forum.


Welcome, Com-rod!   :cheers:

Just funning with you - we always pick on the newbies.

Where in Russia are you?

That's got to be a tough hill to climb in the former Soviet Union - Hot Rodding, at least as we understand it.  

What is the Russian Hot Rod scene like?  

I've always thought a ZIL limo engine in a Mig drop tank would make for a very unique lakester.

Chris Conrad . . .  with an "n" . . .   :wink:

Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: jimmy six on March 12, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
Keep the "golf club" door for and emergency exit :evil:........Great body and grille shell..
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: vintagehotrod on March 12, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
This guy is for real , I am building a flathead Ford for him now and everything you dont see on the car now I am shipping him.
He has a hot rod shop and by what Ive seen does nice work. He will need all our help to make his dream come true in the time we have.
In Russia , he is the bomb. no pun intended.
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Tman on March 12, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
This guy is for real , I am building a flathead Ford for him now and everything you dont see on the car now I am shipping him.
He has a hot rod shop and by what Ive seen does nice work. He will need all our help to make his dream come true in the time we have.
In Russia , he is the bomb. no pun intended.

Pretty cool.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
This guy is for real , I am building a flathead Ford for him now and everything you dont see on the car now I am shipping him.
He has a hot rod shop and by what Ive seen does nice work. He will need all our help to make his dream come true in the time we have.
In Russia , he is the bomb. no pun intended.
Hi John! )))
Yeap, we are trying to populize hot rodding in russia by our projects & bonneville experience =)))
Thanx for this site, it seems that we understand roll cage structure. I can say that this roll cage in russia - for tank maybe =)) very strong. our rules are more simple.
Does anybody know the custome rules if i'am shipping car to US for 2 months?
 
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 04:57:05 PM
Zdravstvuj zzgarage,

I don't speak Russian, but I'm glad you speak hot rod. Welcome to this forum.


Welcome, Com-rod!   :cheers:

Just funning with you - we always pick on the newbies.

Where in Russia are you?

That's got to be a tough hill to climb in the former Soviet Union - Hot Rodding, at least as we understand it.  

What is the Russian Hot Rod scene like?  

I've always thought a ZIL limo engine in a Mig drop tank would make for a very unique lakester.

Chris Conrad . . .  with an "n" . . .   :wink:


in moscow.
russian hot rod scene like a... US in 1900 ) a few cars. most of all - my work =)
as example this car build only on USSR parts ZIL 157 (Katjuscha)))
(http://zil157.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/BM-13-Katjuscha_Berlin.jpg)
(http://cs419329.vk.me/v419329676/22af/OA2jZ1vUmwg.jpg)
You know, looks maybe good, but our engines sucks =(( it's really truck... us big blocks are more beautiful! It was experience and now it's finished. Only US parts - only hardcore =)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Stainless1 on March 12, 2013, 05:06:28 PM
I thought the top truck looked like a good tow vehicle... seemed to have structure for shade already  :roll:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Tman on March 12, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
I thought the top truck looked like a good tow vehicle... seemed to have structure for shade already  :roll:

Plus you could entertain your friends at the Bend launching rockets at the Floating Mountain! And the BLM thought roman candles were something? :-D
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
our small victory - tv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i4RHYil9Js&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 05:14:07 PM
I thought the top truck looked like a good tow vehicle... seemed to have structure for shade already  :roll:

Plus you could entertain your friends at the Bend launching rockets at the Floating Mountain! And the BLM thought roman candles were something? :-D
+1  :-D
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Tman on March 12, 2013, 05:20:11 PM
Didn't understand much of the Youtube but it was a good clip!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
Didn't understand much of the Youtube but it was a good clip!
=))) russian lang =)
i just want to show that russian people start to be interesting in bonneville =)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 12, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
last video (with body)
http://vimeo.com/61664731
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: gkabbt on March 12, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
last video (with body)
http://vimeo.com/61664731

Cool video and good music.  :cheers:  Where in Russia are you?
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 12, 2013, 07:31:43 PM
Howdy from Michigan's Upper Peninsula.  If we haven't already met -- I'm Jon, a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim, the head handlebar holder of this website.  We're all glad to have you.  

Here's a link to some information on importing a race vehicle to the US.  I think the particular item is about third down -- but look around on the entire page.  There'ls lots more information there to help you.  Read  through -- and feel free to ask more questions.

Best - -

http://www.landracing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=19
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: mtkawboy on March 12, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Attention Salt Cat Racing !!!! Doug & Frank, you cant let this guy put a flathead in that Buick, you know what it needs !  :?
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Buickguy3 on March 12, 2013, 10:06:51 PM
  Woody, You read my mind. Sorry he didn't keep the old straight 8, but that just means we will have more parts out there for our car. The little flathead will be mighty lonesome under that long hood. The big truck would make an awesome push truck. Can you imagine trying to get a rocket launcher truck through customs? I mean even if it's 75 years old. ZZGarage welcome to the site and to Salt racing. Bring your friends and stop by the Salt Cat pits for a beer and a little hot rod chat.
   Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 13, 2013, 02:15:19 PM
Does anybody know good seller of lexan? )  :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Peter Jack on March 13, 2013, 02:31:54 PM
Over here we can get it at any Home Depot, Lowes, etc. or any industrial plastics supplier. I would think there must be somewhere closer to you than North America that you can get clear polycarbonate sheet.

Make sure you get polycarbonate and not acrylic. Acrylic breaks into sharp shards while ploycarbonate just bends.

Pete
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 13, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
You've got flat windows, so it should be an easy operation.

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22929

Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: tauruck on March 13, 2013, 02:39:40 PM
Does anybody know good seller of lexan? )  :cheers:
My sponsor sells Lexan and if you send accurate templates I can help you for sure. I think the price would be good as well. Mike.
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Buickguy3 on March 13, 2013, 05:03:09 PM
  I use www.aircraftspruce.com  . They are fast and reasonable and don't rip you off on freight. Don't know about freight to Russia, though.
   Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: ratpatrol66 on March 13, 2013, 09:48:27 PM
Welcome. Thats a nice looking Buick. Are you going to be on the salt this year with it?
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 14, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Does anybody know good seller of lexan? )  :cheers:
My sponsor sells Lexan and if you send accurate templates I can help you for sure. I think the price would be good as well. Mike.
What kind if thick do you use 1/16" , 1/8" , 3/16" or 1/4" ?
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: tauruck on March 14, 2013, 04:41:01 PM
5mm.
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Buickguy3 on March 14, 2013, 09:38:47 PM
   1/8 Lexan is pretty easy to work with, and is also stronger than it looks. Still it's flexable enough to bend around curved areas.

    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: 38flattie on March 16, 2013, 01:23:28 PM
We used 1/8" Lexan.

Cool build, I'll look for it, if you're going to make the salt this year!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 17, 2013, 12:49:57 PM
Roll cage update
(http://d.a.d-cd.net/6c3c868s-480.jpg)
(http://f.a.d-cd.net/13c868s-480.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: lsrjunkie on March 18, 2013, 09:04:22 PM
Quality work zz!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 19, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
You know, looks maybe good, but our engines sucks =(( it's really truck... us big blocks are more beautiful! It was experience and now it's finished. Only US parts - only hardcore =)

ZZ, may I respectfully disagree?

I understand the American Hardcore vibe you're looking to achieve - you're work is excellent, and you do it very well - but you are in a position to really take the whole game in a new direction on an international stage.

I could easily see a 7.7 liter ZIL engine out of a 4104 modified and put into something like these

http://englishrussia.com/2006/09/19/soviet-cars-dump/

That could be something never done before.

Rather than following the trends, you could really start one!

Imagine any one of these sedans with a chop and a big Russian rumble.

I'm looking forward to meeting you on the salt, and I'm enjoying watching the progress here.
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 19, 2013, 12:25:59 AM
Good idea of course, but no... I don't want to change history and make a new culture, no... And our russian engines are so bad... Our racing history is dead and i don't want to be a pioneer who will grow up it, it's a lot of money for nothing.
You can see a few shots of our last moscow exebition - race car theme
http://pkuneev.gallery.ru/watch?a=Qey-jT93

and one shot of my exposition
PS John, good girl?? )))
(http://data22.gallery.ru/albums/gallery/161720-427bb-65295863-m750x740-uc116c.jpg)

You know, looks maybe good, but our engines sucks =(( it's really truck... us big blocks are more beautiful! It was experience and now it's finished. Only US parts - only hardcore =)

ZZ, may I respectfully disagree?

I understand the American Hardcore vibe you're looking to achieve - you're work is excellent, and you do it very well - but you are in a position to really take the whole game in a new direction on an international stage.

I could easily see a 7.7 liter ZIL engine out of a 4104 modified and put into something like these

http://englishrussia.com/2006/09/19/soviet-cars-dump/

That could be something never done before.

Rather than following the trends, you could really start one!

Imagine any one of these sedans with a chop and a big Russian rumble.

I'm looking forward to meeting you on the salt, and I'm enjoying watching the progress here.
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Stainless1 on March 19, 2013, 11:35:01 AM
An I thought the Chinese were the knock off kings... that car looks just like a 70s Mopar Muscle car...  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 19, 2013, 12:21:24 PM
And the lady on the car doesn't look like the stereotypical Russian lady -- babushka, hunched over, no teeth, etc. :-D :-D
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Stainless1 on March 19, 2013, 12:30:18 PM
And the lady on the car doesn't look like the stereotypical Russian lady -- babushka, hunched over, no teeth, etc. :-D :-D

You must not be shopping at Russianbrides.com to find your stereotypes... put away that book about Russian labor camps... you know lots of the ladies that work at the Wendover Casinos are ex-Eastern Blockers.

Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: jimmy six on March 19, 2013, 12:39:00 PM
What car?
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: RidgeRunner on March 19, 2013, 04:17:49 PM
What car?


     Nothing like keeping a build in proper perspective!

                Ed
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 21, 2013, 12:53:26 AM
roll cage update
(http://f.a.d-cd.net/9edc68s-480.jpg)
(http://g.a.d-cd.net/c9edc68s-480.jpg)
(http://f.a.d-cd.net/29edc68s-480.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: tauruck on March 21, 2013, 01:28:40 AM
It's looking good zz. It's going to be great when it's done. :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 21, 2013, 01:06:07 PM
our car in 3d. working hard to make this car
(http://zz-garage.ru/storage/post/29/post640x2-2.jpg)
(http://zz-garage.ru/storage/post/29/post640x2-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Captthundarr on March 21, 2013, 02:50:56 PM
Nice  :-D
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 22, 2013, 08:17:51 AM
roll cage update
(http://f.a.d-cd.net/2531268s-480.jpg)
(http://e.a.d-cd.net/a531268s-480.jpg)
(http://g.a.d-cd.net/c931268s-480.jpg)
(http://a.a.d-cd.net/a931268s-480.jpg)
(http://c.a.d-cd.net/7931268s-480.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Duck-Stew on March 22, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
zz:  Very nice work on a very nice project...  Hope to see you on the salt!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 22, 2013, 09:57:45 AM
zz:  Very nice work on a very nice project...  Hope to see you on the salt!  :cheers:
if we will come to salt this august, i'am promise to make a big party in casino at 15-th of august because i will have my b-day =)
rock-n-roll!
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Frankie7799 on March 22, 2013, 01:49:34 PM
Very nice work ZZ!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on March 25, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
95% finished
(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/886462_390722484368031_152882159_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: lsrjunkie on March 25, 2013, 04:07:38 PM
Looking good!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 25, 2013, 11:40:33 AM
Been a while on this one.  I just watched your latest videos - I see you're also working on a Nailhead powered chassis with a pretty trick IRS - I assume that's for a customer?

We're only about 76 days out from Speedweek - will you be able to make it?

Chris
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on July 03, 2013, 02:58:02 PM
soooo.... there was a lot of work! espacially big thanks to VHR and So-Cal!!!
Buick will see US in 8 of july, very close... There are a lot of things that we need to do before racing, we had only 2 weeks to build a car... And probably 2 weeks in US...
a lot of pics. last day before shipping... trailer is waiting outside...
stay true! We will do all we can to have a Bonneville experience this august!
P.S. Rear end and front are so hight - special thing for shipping!
http://zz-garage.ru/blog/52/tag/7227 (http://zz-garage.ru/blog/52/tag/7227)
(http://zz-garage.ru/storage/post/52/post640x2-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on July 03, 2013, 03:02:06 PM
Been a while on this one.  I just watched your latest videos - I see you're also working on a Nailhead powered chassis with a pretty trick IRS - I assume that's for a customer?

We're only about 76 days out from Speedweek - will you be able to make it?

Chris
yeap... it's a dodge 1928 coupe with nailhead...
small video on the road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYhO04QRREk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYhO04QRREk)
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: dw230 on July 03, 2013, 09:07:40 PM
zz,

I just revisited this build and noticed your comment about your birthday. Mine too is 15 Aug. Big party last year for my 70th which also happened to be on the night of the 200 MPH Club banquet.

See you at the salt,

DW
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: Buickguy3 on July 03, 2013, 10:20:11 PM
  And mine on the 13th. The party is getting bigger.
   Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on July 04, 2013, 11:22:30 AM
  And mine on the 13th. The party is getting bigger.
   Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
august - racers month!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: dw230 on July 04, 2013, 12:21:28 PM
I have always said that racers have an ego issue - the month of August(Leo) proves my point. At one time when I was running with the Young Brothers we had August birthdays of 13-14 & 15.

DW
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on July 04, 2013, 04:08:35 PM
I have always said that racers have an ego issue - the month of August(Leo) proves my point. At one time when I was running with the Young Brothers we had August birthdays of 13-14 & 15.

DW
LEO - RULEZZ!
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: fredvance on July 04, 2013, 08:01:09 PM
My wifes birthday is august 16th. We have been married 20yrs and I have been at Bonneville for most of her birthdays. :cheers:
Title: Re: Buick 1932 XF/VGALT
Post by: zzgarage on August 26, 2013, 02:25:24 AM
Sooooo
First experience was sooo coool! Esp big thanks to Jimmy Shine, Dad, Mom and all So-Cal Speed Shop!!!!!!!!! JB from VHR!!! Mike and Annette Stewart!!!
Our trip was the longest ever i think, but we done it! Now we know everything about our car and will prepare it for the next year!
(http://img02.rl0.ru/7494bfc679289bab2d483c5dd6b40a58/520x320q90/mtr.rl0.ru/upload/7/52/57c28d05847ad9ccfb32727ecf349.jpeg)