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Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials => Bville Motorcycle Speed Trials General Chat => Topic started by: gearheadeh on December 19, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
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In another thread a member posted some excellant observations on what happens to Leathers when sliding on the salt at speed. These kinds of posts might help those shopping for leather's and spine protectors,etc. to get the best equipment for this unique enviroment (Not Asphalt!)
So here is his post to start off this thread.:
I had a crash at over 100 mph. Thought I would never stop sliding. Started feet first, Jacket pulled up kicked around so I was sliding head first, my shoulders and butt got hot. Ended up aching my back and trying to slide on my helmet and soles of my boots. Wore though the elbos of my suit and a quarter size hole in my skin to the bone and about 16 square inches of skin off my back over my kidneys.
Thanks Ted for your info, Hope others do not have to experience the pain you suffered! :cheers:
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I won't quit with my ongoing recommendation -- wear Kevlar underwear. Nancy and I both wear "Draggin' Jeans" long sleeve and long pants undies. I won't promise that they'll eliminate road rash, but they'll sure as heck reduce it. They'll still transmit heat from the friction of sliding - but will almost certainly make you glad you were wearing them when you did your get-off. A set is about $350 or so. They're real Kevlar, too. When Nancy crashed last summer (impact, not sliding) the medics had one heck of a time trying to cut off the Kevlar garments. :-o
By the way -- they outfit is far cooler than you'd think. The weave of the fabric is coarse enough to wick the moisture away from your skin and let in lots of air to speed evaporation (and thereby cool you quite well).
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Price was a big concern when I was shopping for leathers, and weight too. Some imported road racing ones looked good. They were light and cheap. A LSR racer gave me some advice. He said to talk to the ladies at Bates and tell them exactly what I planned to do and to take their advice. The ones they sent me are for high speed LSR. They are heavy, hot, and expensive. They will give me good protection, though, and that is what I hopefully will never need.
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Price was a big concern when I was shopping for leathers, and weight too. Some imported road racing ones looked good. They were light and cheap. A LSR racer gave me some advice. He said to talk to the ladies at Bates and tell them exactly what I planned to do and to take their advice. The ones they sent me are for high speed LSR. They are heavy, hot, and expensive. They will give me good protection, though, and that is what I hopefully will never need.
Thanks for posting Wobbly. Could we get you to post up a picture of these LSR Leathers. Iam interested in seeing what they put in to protecting elbows, Knees, backs and the like.
Thanks.
Hagen. The Canadian Gearhead.
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I'd guess cow.
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Maybe MOOSE in Canada. :evil:
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They ARE bigger and tougher!!! :-D :-D
Pete
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Amen to Bates Leathers. The price you pay for safety gear is well spent money. Don't buy stuff because it's cheap.
Sliding is not good. A brief amount of time spent on one spot is all it takes on 150mph 30 grit sand paper.
Not sliding is not good either. Tumbling results in . . .
(http://mlkshk.com/r/6LWB)
A slow rotisserie works well . . . like you have a choice!
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Ouchhhh!
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Amen to Bates Leathers. The price you pay for safety gear is well spent money. Don't buy stuff because it's cheap.
Sliding is not good. A brief amount of time spent on one spot is all it takes on 150mph 30 grit sand paper.
Not sliding is not good either. Tumbling results in . . .
(http://mlkshk.com/r/6LWB)
A slow rotisserie works well . . . like you have a choice!
What gloves were you wearing?
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Some posts of what Bates did. These leathers are not state of the art. I bought them years ago. The ladies at Bates told me to buy one piece leathers. Funky race food, maybe being nervous, or too much beer the night before sometimes gives me the Hershey squirts. The two piece leathers help at those times.
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There are foam pads sewn in these places.
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More pictures. Triumph makes this back protector. It meets European safety standards.
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There are foam pads sewn in these places.
That right there answer's some of my questions. :cheers:
Wonder if anybody puts in plastic over the elbow?
Maybe some extra layers of "MOOSE" over the hips and butt. :-D
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Plastic....on the elbows and hips and back Yes.........
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DAINESE racing leathers (not SCTA/BNI approved).....AMA/FIM/BUB approved......actually not plastic but Kevlar
not cheap leathers......but vey good if you plan to fall off a lot..................................................................
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My one piece Alpine Star has hard plastic inserts at the elbows & shoulders, flexable 1/2 in back protection. In white/silver combo it's no where near as hot as black leathers.
I like Slims idea of the additional kevlar protection. Gonna have to look into that.
Hope everyone has a fun Christmas :cheers:
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Kangaroo. I live in a country where it is quite acceptable to eat and wear the national coat of arms. (Kangaroo meat is very much like venison)
My favourite leathers are made from heavy grain Kanga, but not allowed for lsr because of perforations.
CSIRO reckons:
"Kangaroo leather is lighter and stronger than the hide of a cow or goat. It has 10 times the tensile strength of cowhide and is 50% stronger than goatskin".
Moose may be tougher, but the kangas box. :cheers: