Landracing Forum
Swedish "Ice Speed Racing" => Landracing.SE => Topic started by: Billqvist on July 09, 2012, 01:56:08 PM
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I introduce my self for couple of years ago as one of the crazy Sweds, when I started to build and Pre war Land Racing car with an WWII Inverted V12 Aero Engine. There have been many challenges along the way, but I overcomes them all. I am almost done with the project and the engine is running. Look forward to use the Land racer in next year Ice speed racing.
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That is a beautiful car! What engine are you using.. a Liberty V-12?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Thanks! I use an Isotta-Fraschini. 27liter, Twin cam and 750 HP (Super charged) . The engine came from a Caproni Ca 313.
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Thanks! I use an Isotta-Fraschini. 27liter, Twin cam and 750 HP (Super charged) . The engine came from a Caproni Ca 313.
Now, there is a rare one! Thanks!
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Holly $hit Bill, that is gorgeous!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
How about giving us a little more info & some more pics?
Sid.
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I agree with Sid. Awesome build. :cheers:
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Day-am mo info please. :cheers: :cheers:
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I believe Billqvist is the gentleman featured in HRM, with his "Forgatti"; an aluminum
Bugatti body over a Model A frame. Simply amazing stuff. This car was mentioned
briefly with the promise of a follow-up. I imagined that it would be beautiful, but I
had no idea... Cheers, fantastisk, utmärkt, underbar.
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Thanks for the appreciation.
Here is some more information about the roaring Dragon (Name of the car). The chassi is a French Delage D8 1930 and the length of the car is 16.5 foot (5meter), Front axle and transmission is from Ford Truck from early 40´s. Rear axle is a Quickchange to get some top speed due to max 2500 rpm. Wheels are Ford 21"/7".
The body is in Aluminum (own creation). The paint is matt black celloulosa. The jam packed dashboard contains a number of instruments from aviation and prewar cars from 30´s to 40´s. Belive it or not, but all are needed to monitor and run the engine. The engine starts with help of air pressure and that is a challenge of its own.
Here is a funny youtube clip of the second start of the engine and I guess the roaring Dragon is appropriate name for the car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STmk8bdkHDk
Yes! I am also the creator of the Forgatti in the recent issue of HRM, but this car is a completely different story and complexity.
I also attach a picture to give you an idea of the size of the car. My wife is 5.5 foot (167cm) high
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Are you sure the ice is thick enough to hold that monster up without cracking? What a beauty.
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WOW!!!
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I can't believe my eyes.
That is a masterpiece.
Dave
# 3611
56 Corvette
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I figured it was big but you're right, that is "awesomely big".
The video clip is way funny, I can see why you called it The Roaring Dragon.
Do you plan on driving this new dinosaur on the road??
Sid.
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I've got an idea -- keep it handy at the start line, and when the crown starts getting in too close -- light off the beast/Monster/"Roaring Dragon". That'd move them back a few hundred feet :-D :-D
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The Roaring Dragon will not be road legal due to the V12 Horse Power (or Dragon Power) compare to the 80hp in the original Delage Frame. I will drive some hill climbs, Ice racing (if the ice is thick enough), Hot Rod Drags and some lap on a race circuits perhaps.
I like Seldom Seen Slim´s creative idea! When it start to be too crowdy around the dragon, then I turn loose the fire flames :-D
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Nice build. Breathing fire is good. No need for imitation flame paint job...you make your own flames.
Good racing and may the ice be thick this year!
Bill
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The Caproni Ca 313I certainly holds a place in Sweden's history, kinda He111 looking isn't it.
I know your type Bill, I am that type too. The need to create is still there, so what's the next one going to be?
Sid.
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A really impressive build!
I´m looking forward to see this on the ice next year.
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Sid,
Next project is already in planning phase, but will be more a modest pre war racer. Still V12 and road legal this time. I will mount a tuned Lincoln zephyr V12 in a Buick 28 chassis. Body will be in aluminium.
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Sid, I forgot to mentioning about Caproni Ca 313. Yes! It is a sad chapter of Swedish military air force. The Caproni went under the name of "flying coffin". 38 people got killed in various crashes related to fuel, landing gear, poor design, engine, etc. 5 was killed in the actual war. The engine I have was also part of a crash. I do hope the roaring dragon will have a better history on land.
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I had to google your Forgatti to see what it is & now I also have your name right, sorry Glenn.
I also have a passion for big odd engines & I try real hard not to bring too many home. An American LaFrance flathead V12 has been calling my name for a while but so far I have resisted. I did bring home a 600 cu in White industrial flathead 6 engine that was on a generator. It was heading to the scrap metal yard so I had to save it. It was love at first sight, it has a 4" single barrel up draft carb that you can't get your hands around. Now thats a sexy bitch.
Sid.
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No problem. I am used to be called Bill :-) I share your interest of big engines and I didn´t know there was a American La France V12. Must be very rare I guess! That engine just have to call my name once and there shouldn´t be any resistance at all. If you have some pictures of the V12 and the White Industrial Flat head please post it.
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Hi Bill,
Great machine. You say inverted V12? How does the lubrication system work?
All the best,
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Thanks SaltRat!
The lubrication is a dry sump system so it doesn´t matter if the engine upside down or vise versa. I also mounted a pre lubrication pump just to make sure everything is lubricated before the start of the engine.
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From what I understand, the American LaFrance flathead V12 was a larger derivative of the Deusenberg engine & is also a 30 degree V12.
There is a later version that has an "F head" configuration also.
I'm having to stay focused on the AA/BFS streamliner I'm building so when all this other cool stuff that pops up, I have to look away.
Big Whitey was headed to the crusher so I had to make an exception there. It's tucked away in the barn so I cant get any pics.
Sid.
Here's a youtube moment on a V12 A-LF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=1hFsK_WoBzA&NR=1
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This I like a lot!! Bet you do too.
Sid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwrel&v=t6_dG3kzTZ0&NR=1
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Absolutley! I like Auburn and this Auburn is great and well buildt Auburn Racer. I have an Auburn my self, but is just a replica of the speedster model.