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Title: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
This thread is to document the building & modification of a 1982 Honda CX500tc TURBO street bike to run at the 2012 Bonneville Salt Flats SPEEDWEEK

This is a bone stock 1982 Honda cx500tc Turbo the way it looked as a showroom fresh street bike
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/cx500tphoto-1.jpg)
We never saw our cx500tc look like this. We purchased ours on January 3 2012.

Let me introduce you to our team
Owner & Crew Chief
JACOB BAGNELL
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/1jacob.jpg)
Jacob is a retired industrial arts teacher. He has devoted his life to his family & his students. Jacob has built & raced many race cars, speedway motorcycles , drag motorcycles , street cars & hot rods over the years. He is the brains & driving force behind our team.

Co-OWNER & RIDER
JAKE BAGNELL
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/2jake.jpg)
Jake is a science teacher at Anderson Valley Junior/Senior High School in Booneville California. In his short career as a teacher he has made a large inpact on his students & the community.

THE REST OF THE CREW
RANDY CHENOWTH
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/3me.jpg)
I'm the one that is documenting this project. I'm a long time gear head. I have worked as a mechanic , aircraft machinest & in many different trades in my life. I volenteered 3 years as a High School Auto Shop Teacher


Below is what ours bike looked like the day we purchased it off craigslist. It is obvious that the bike had been modified when we got it , But we plan on taking it in a whole different direction than the last owner had planned
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/4bikeintruck.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 14, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
I see you found home. Yes, cool bike and fits on this forum.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 12:52:34 PM
2012 will be Jacob & my second trip to the Bonneville salt Flats for Speedweek. In 2011 we went to Bonneville with a vintage Belly Tank running a Ford 4 cyclider B motor. That is Jacob Bagnell in the drivers suit & helmet.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/5tanksalt.jpg)
That whole story is documented on a garage journal thread. So I won't get into that story here. Altought things didn't go well in 2011 , Jacob & I have not lost our interst in building something BITCHEN & GOING FAST on the salt

2012 will be our riders , Jake's first time to the salt. Jake was with us on the restoration of the vintage Belly Tank in 2011, but he was not able to make the trip to Bonneville with us.

Jake may be a novice to the Bonneville , but I'm sure it won't be long before he is infected with SALT FEVER like myself & his father
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 12:58:13 PM
Right after Jacob & I picked up the bike. The first thing we had to do was go to our favorite taco shop in Oceanside Calif. We asked a young US Marine to take our photo
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/6taco.jpg)

The bike was in great running condition with just over 15000 miles on it. Although it was a good running bike , It was ugly
 (http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/7ugly.jpg)
The first thing we did was strip off the steel gas tank & body panels
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/8strip.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
A few days later we hauled the bikle to a local recycling center & used their scale to get a baseline weight on the bike. It weighed 422 pounds

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/e-1.jpg)

Then we headed to COMPETITIVE METALS in El Cajon Calif. to get some steel & aluminum. Competitive Metal has an excellent selection of material on hand & the staff is always eager to help no matter what you need.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/009-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Seeing this is a shaft drive motorcycle. There is no easy way to change the final drive ratio. Jacob searched the internet & found  a different size rear wheel. He purchased one on ebay from a guy in England. When it was delivered we took it to Larry Storck at JIMCO in Santee & had tabs welded on for 1/4 turm fasteners & had discs made for the rear wheel.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x012-Copy.jpg)
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x013-Copy.jpg)

We also talked to Larry about the streamline body work we will need to have made. That will be something we will have done in the next few months.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x014-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
The larger rear wheel will give us a better final drive ratio. But we wanted more , Jacob did his research & found taller gears out of another Honda that will work in our cx500tc. So it was back on to ebay to find a decent set of gears & a clutch basket
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(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/KGrHqZigE3-rF9iBOG3nqhfwQ_3.jpg)
Now we will able to run faster at a lower RPM on the salt. It will be like having an overdrive tranny compared to the stock cx500tc gears.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:14:46 PM
Now its time to start stripping all the unneeded heavy factory parts off the bike , both kick stands GONE , heavy factory rear shocks GONE , speedo cluster GONE , The list goes on & on. When we got done the bike looked like the vultures in scrap had picked it apart
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/A-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:16:32 PM
With the bike stripped down , We started the almost imposible task of finding light weight after market parts. Seeing this is an old bike that only lasted in production for a short time. NO ONE makes parts for it & honda has discontinued most of the parts.We have to scavange the earth looking for NOS parts or have custom parts made.
We started with the rear shock.We went to HAGON Shocks in San Marcos Calif & had a custom rear shock made for the bike.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x001-Copy.jpg)

Billy & Christina Hamill run HAGON shocks. Billy is a Speedway bike racer & he sells everything from shocks to complete speedway bikes for beginners to pro riders.
They are great people . Billy has raced on the salt so he knew what we needed in a rear shock. About all I can say is THEY HOOKED US UP... We got a custom built shock for the salt at a great price
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(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x003-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:17:29 PM
The Honda CX series motors are water cooled , Most of them have a small radiator. The CX500tc Turbo has a radiator that is the size of a basketball backboard.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/007-1.jpg)
This stock radiator is GONE. We are having a new smaller alumnium radiator made for the bike.
It will catch less air at speed on the salt & it will cool the bike better. The guy in New York is almost done with it. I'll post photos when we get it.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:19:48 PM
SCTA rule require a steering stablizer on bikes. We did our research & found a local company that makes a cool one . They are GPR STABILIZER in San Diego . Loren Black at GPR gave us a tour of the factory & then had one of the techs build us a custom stabilizer while we were there.

We are going to have to machine off the top of the triple clamps where the handle bars mount to get it to fit , but thats OK because we are going to use clamp on handle bars that connect low on the front forks.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/001.jpg)
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Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:21:26 PM
Larry Storck at JIMCO got the rear wheel & wheel discs finished
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x001-Copy-1.jpg)
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(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/x004-Copy.jpg)

Jacob took them to be polished & anodized. We aren't going to paint much on this bike ,parts are going to be powder coated or anodized. Jacob keeps saying" this bike is going to look BITCHEN.....
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on April 14, 2012, 01:21:55 PM
Although it was a good running bike , It was ugly

A CX-500 will always be ugly - but if it is fast no one will notice!  :-D

Cut my mechanical teeth on helicopters & Hondas - looking forward to your build!  :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:24:08 PM
Jacob removed the stock rear shock & arms , Drilled the arms to reduce weight & painted them red. We installed the rear arms & new HAGON shock.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/shk1.jpg)
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/shk2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:26:37 PM
Jacob drilled & painted the the lower triple tree & the motor mounts also. Jacob may be right , things are starting to look BITCHEN
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/mm.jpg)

We received the gold anodized Velocity Stack. We had a hell of a time finding one that was close to the right size. We thought we were going to have to modify it , but it slipped right on.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/vs1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 01:29:08 PM
The cool looking aftermarket exhaust pipe & muffler that was on the bike when Jacob purchased it was great for street use. But it wasn't needed for the Salt. We sold it & got a stock exhaust pipe & flange. Jacob modified it & is getting ready to weld it up.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/ex3.jpg)
We did a test fit on the motor. Again I must say, IT LOOKS BITCHEN
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/ex2.jpg)
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/ex1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: fredvance on April 14, 2012, 01:34:11 PM
Weight is your friend at Bonneville. My Bonneville bike weighs about 100lbs more than my pavement bike. Do you have a rule book? You can only run discs on the rear wheel. Looks like a really cool build. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Nortonist 592 on April 14, 2012, 01:40:08 PM
Welcome.  I saw your thread over on the JJ.  Was sorry to see it got the chop.  It will, I'm sure, be an interesting build.  Good luck with it.  Glad you moved it over here.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 14, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
I see you found home. Yes, cool bike and fits on this forum.

I also see you (bigdaddy) got yourself banned on the Jockey Journal. No it was not me but why even post after I told you it did not fit and would be deleted?
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Nortonist 592 on April 14, 2012, 02:06:33 PM
Funny how a pushrod V twin can get banned on the JJ.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 55chevr on April 14, 2012, 02:24:37 PM
Guessing it was the drive shaft.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: maj on April 14, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
Yep +1 on the weight thing , you need weight for traction, and with the long runup available there is no penalty for being heavy

Depends how much power you end up with, std your weight/power is fine , if you fit a bigger turbo , turn up the pressure and intercool you may need to add weight

Otherwise i realy like the build  :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 14, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
Funny how a pushrod V twin can get banned on the JJ.

Naw, it was the Japanese part of it. Different garages, different rules. I don't post the Honda my brother and I are building for him there and I'm a freakin moderator! Same reason I do not expect Slim to put up with me talking all the time about ice climbing here.

Like I said, cool bike, always dug the Cxs
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Nortonist 592 on April 14, 2012, 07:19:09 PM
^^^^  I knew the reason.  It was my attempt at sarcasm.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 14, 2012, 08:49:06 PM
 Glad to be at landracing.com
This will be our first attemp at a salt cycle. Jacob has done Speedway Motorcycles in the USA & England , Drag bikes at Carlsbad & Lions drag strip.
I know we are new to salt motorcycles.... is it still OK to ride in  your underwear & bedroom slippers?
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/zzzzz.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 55chevr on April 14, 2012, 08:53:13 PM
Trent - I was kidding.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Nortonist 592 on April 14, 2012, 09:24:27 PM
Its OK to ride in your underwear so long as they have no vent panels and your slippers must be all leather.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stainless1 on April 14, 2012, 10:29:52 PM
Actually clothes are optional, but you should wear shoes...
Last years shirt.... Jon may have some left
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on April 15, 2012, 09:51:20 AM
Do we have any '11 Salt Talks shirts remaining?  Well, yes -- the Freud fan club didn't step up and buy us out after all their bargaining and dickering (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 16, 2012, 10:19:37 AM
The Honda CX series motors are water cooled , Most of them have a small radiator. The CX500tc Turbo has a radiator that is the size of a basketball backboard.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/007-1.jpg)
This stock radiator is GONE. We are having a new smaller alumnium radiator made for the bike.
It will catch less air at speed on the salt & it will cool the bike better. The guy in New York is almost done with it. I'll post photos when we get it.

We just got word from Scott at Wizard Cooling that the new aluminum radiator is ready & will be shipped to us. Things are starting to come together.   Pretty soon this will start to look like a motorcycle again.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: donpearsall on April 16, 2012, 09:28:23 PM
What class are you going to run in? My daughter, Delisa Bartholomew, has the record on that bike for the P-PPB and MPS-PBG from 2008.
Looks like you have a great build going and you will get great speed out of that setup.
Good Luck and keep posting
Don
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on April 17, 2012, 10:25:19 PM
I bought Don's 500 and hope to have it or a 650 turbo out there for Speed Week this year.  I will either be running in production or a modified class.  I have to ditto everything that people are saying about weight.  The turbo will almost reach top speed in 1/4 mile, so weight reduction isn't necessary for acceleration and you could easily find yourself adding weight for traction if you go real fast.  No real tips on making the engine faster as the computer controls boost, fuel, ignition and rpm pretty tight.  By the way, I thought your bike looked pretty good in its "naked" form.

Ed
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 20, 2012, 12:49:45 AM
Jacob has been busy fabricating parts. He's been helped by Warren Marlay,
"MR. MARLAY" is the metal shop teacher at Monta Vista High School.

Warren Marlay modifing the new pegs . No one makes parts for the CX Honda so everything has to be made or parts for other bikes have to be modified.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/cwarrenmarlay.jpg)
Working side by side on the mills, Jacob & Warren were getting it done between classes. I don't know what was deeper....The metal chips on the floor or the OLD SHOP TEACHER HORROR STORIES
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/c2008.jpg)
Jacob fabricating new peg mounts to get the rides feet back on the bike.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/b-2.jpg)
Jacob switches gears & fires up the lathe. When I asked what he was working on all he had time said was SPACERS....Then the bell rang & the metal shop students started flooding into the shop.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/a-3.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 23, 2012, 05:31:57 PM
Jacob & Warren got the pegs & mounts finished. Jacob test fit them on the bike. They fit perfect.
Now they will be polished & anodized
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/003-2.jpg)
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Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 23, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
Jacob had to modify the top of the triple tree to get the GPR stabilizer mounted
Bar mounts were milled off & mounting block was fabricated.
Little finish work & the block will go to be anodized & top triple clamp will go to powder coat
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/007-2.jpg)

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/008.jpg)

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Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 23, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
Bigdaddy, do you ever interact and answer folks questions when you post such as Don Pearsalls previous question? :roll:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 23, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
Yes I will interact & depending on the question , maybe I will give some answers.....Didn't they tell you this is all TOP SECRET STUFF...
The reason I didn't answer Don's question is, I'm not sure what class / classes we are going to run...... I know we are going to run on gas , most likely partial streamliner.
This project is Jacob's deal. I'm just helping & documenting the build. Been so busy finding parts & making the necessary mods ,  It never crossed my mind to ask Jacob what class this wacky bike will fall into. I figured once we got it to Bonneville ,SCTA would give use 8 or 9 letter to put on the bike & point us down the salt
Right now I don't even know what our number is.... LOL

If you asked me...I think we need to scrap the fuel injection  & run a vintage Y manifold with a pair of strombergs on nitro, but thats just me..
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Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stan Back on April 23, 2012, 09:45:24 PM
Maybe you guys ought to read the Rule Book, get a number, select a class, get a fast-closing Pre-Entry to save some bucks, and step up.  But, then again, there are some other venues where all of this may not count as much.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JimL on April 23, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
Just noticed your clutch basket and trans...does your 500 crank gear have the split design like the non-turbo?  My 680 (and 647) engines originally had the one piece crank gear and same design basket as you show...and have brass thrust washers behind the crank gear.  Perhaps your 500 turbo is similar, but check it out.  Also check the stack width of the 650 trans...in the non-turbos there is a difference and I dont know if that carries through to the turbo models.   I use all 500 clutch/gears-trans in the 650 cases and shim to fit, but use the 650 clutch and gears/trans in the MPS bike.  No turbos for us, though...carbs are enough work.

Lots of good info at the Turbo forum on Chopper Charles site, if you haven't been there yet.

If your luck is no better than mine, with these CX engines.....buy more bikes!!  You'd be amazed how many bikes can go in the trash when you cut them small enough. :wink:

JimL
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 23, 2012, 11:27:14 PM
STAN
Thanks for the advice...BUT we already STEPPED UP.....
We have rule book , read it cover to cover a few times , We have a  Number & Class picked out.....
All entry forms have been sent in  . All entry fees paid , running with the SD roadster club ...So we are good.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 23, 2012, 11:54:15 PM
JimL
Thanks for your input on the gears
Jacob is our crew chief---- He will see your post
Jacob has been wrenching on cycles going back to the 50's. I think he has it handled
Thanks Brother , hope to see you at the salt...
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 24, 2012, 02:02:43 AM
Sounds like you have all the answers then. Keep posting up your spam for your advertisers.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on April 24, 2012, 01:49:31 PM
Actually the "spam" is pretty interesting.  I race the turbo bikes too and it is refreshing to see different ideas and applications for the same problem.  This is pretty light compared to any Nascar driver interview.  I would love to use a GPR stabilizer and this gives me an idea of how to do it.  JimL has provided countless tips that have already saved me a thousand google searches.  Keep it up Bigdaddy, I am cheering you on.
Ed
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 24, 2012, 02:53:11 PM
Actually the "spam" is pretty interesting.  I race the turbo bikes too and it is refreshing to see different ideas and applications for the same problem.  This is pretty light compared to any Nascar driver interview.  I would love to use a GPR stabilizer and this gives me an idea of how to do it.  JimL has provided countless tips that have already saved me a thousand google searches.  Keep it up Bigdaddy, I am cheering you on.
Ed

It is interesting Ed, that is why I asked about more interaction from the OP. This same thread, verbatim, has been posted on at least 3 boards that I know of. None of which has had anything more than rapid-fire posting of pictures and avoidance of questions.  Bigdaddy, I have nothing against you. I have always dug the CX's so it is fun to see what you are trying to do. 

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 24, 2012, 07:31:58 PM
Tman
Yes I posted on HAMB & JOCKEY thinking a land speed projected would be accepted. I guess I underestimated the narrow scope of those sites. Before it was pulled from both sites, I received a few comments that the thread didn't fit the board, but they thought the thread was cool ,So I continued posting thinking it would be allowed. First the HAMBergers closed the thread but left the info on the site, so I copied & pasted it to JOCKEY. JOCKEY flat out deleted it & band me for life....LOLOLOL. That is when I found LANDRACING.COM. & copied & pasted it here.  Hopefully we have found a home at landracing.com

As for my rapid fire posting , I had 3 months of info & photos  I want to get posted to get up to date documenting the build . I wasn't avoiding answering question. I just hadn't gone back to read what others had posted.

The term SPAM was toss into this mix... I just want to give credit where credit is due. We are a new team with no sponsors. The people & companies I have mentioned have embraced this build & have given us a smokin deal on parts. If it wasn't for them we would never be as far along as we are & maybe wouldn't make speedweek this year. Hopefully we will get some more help & I will have to spam some more.......I hope that is cool...

I never thought this treard would attract this much interest. I started it so a few frineds & supporters could see what we are doing. I want to say thanks to everyone that has posted & also to those following this build. If your at the salt  for speedweek this year , swing by the San Diego Roadster Club pits & check out the bike.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 24, 2012, 08:12:43 PM
Now you are talking/responding! Welcome again :cheers: I will lift your ban (made by another mod) on the Jockey even though I told you to  post it here first :wink: There is good cross pollination between the boards but your bike fits best here. Slim has a good site.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: aussiespeedracer on April 25, 2012, 01:21:55 AM
BigDaddy - aka:THE MAN WITH NO EYES
Cheers from Australia mate
 We met at Speedweek last year. You were with the #200 Lobello belly tank. My mate Dozer & I stopped by your pits when you were thrashing on the belly tank. We also met at the Rainbow Casino bar in Wendover later that night.  You bought Dozer & I a pint. We called you THE MAN WITH NO EYES because you always had dark sunnies on even at night in the casino.

I have a 82 cx500 eurosport I ride on the street here in Sydney, You picked a ripper of a cycle to run on the salt.
My mates & I are planning on being at speedweek 2012, Are you going to be in the pits with the San Diego Roadsters again?
Hope to see you there
DOUG
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 25, 2012, 03:05:31 AM
Doug
Yes, we will be in the San Diego Roadster Club pits again. I look forward to seeing you & Dozer at the salt. You guys owe me a beer  :cheers:

We had planned on returning to Speedweek 2012 with that vintage belly tank but there were issues with the owner that we couldn't live with.... So we parted ways. I know he has a new driver & crew. They are thrashing on the tank in hopes to make it back to the salt this year. I wish then luck. I think they will need it......

Jacob & I wanted to be at speedweek 2012 , but we didn't want to just watch. Jacob & his son did some rules searching & found the CX was something we could get built withing a year & have a decent chance at a record.

Seeing you have a CX, stop by out pits with your cooler & we might put you to work. PS: I like Budweiser & I like it cold....
I will be easy to find, Just look for a fat old man with a long beard & sunglasses  8-)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: fredvance on April 25, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
Sounds like at least half the people at Bonneville. :roll: :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stan Back on April 25, 2012, 11:29:42 AM
Wear Levi's and a white shirt so they'll be sure to find you.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: beerbellykelly on April 25, 2012, 02:04:55 PM
i will be easy to find, Just look for a fat old man with a long beard & sunglasses  8-)


thats almost half the M/C pits-right there- including me-enjoying  the build thread -
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Nortonist 592 on April 25, 2012, 03:28:54 PM
I wear shorts at SpeedWeek so I"m very easy to find.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 25, 2012, 03:57:14 PM
I stopped by Monte Vista High School this morning to button up a few thing , just to find the school is having state testing this week. So the schedule is all turned around. One of the more dedicated students , Carter Haynes was busy setting up the mill during his lunch period when I arrived. We try to get the students involved in the build as much as we can.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/iCarterHynes.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Glen on April 25, 2012, 04:44:19 PM
No safety glasses???
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 38flattie on April 25, 2012, 04:57:06 PM
Tman, Bigdaddy piss in your wheaties or something? His 'spam' is no different than the rest of up post, when someone helps us, or we find something that works.

 I know for a fact, that you and I both make identical posts from time to time, on this board and another.....

Bigdaddy, I was following the build when it got deleted. I think it's great, and I really think it's great that you're getting those students involved. :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on April 25, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
Not at all Buddy. Remember I LIKE CX's
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 26, 2012, 04:23:27 PM
We got the peg mounts , rear wheel discs & wheel spacers back from poilishing & we took them to Kent Willis at A to Z Metal Finishing to be anodized. Jacob loves the look of anadized aluminum & he keeps saying THIS WILL LOOK BITCHEN...
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/kentAtoZ.jpg)

The front shock slideres were sent out to another shop  last week to get powder coated .I won't mention who they are right now because they called & said they had them done  ,but they accedently gave them to another customer. They assured us that they will get them back to us tomorrow. :?.... I hope the hell they do because we had to get those sliders from a guy in England

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on April 26, 2012, 10:35:59 PM
Send me a PM if you run into a bind on the forks, I might have some spares.

Ed
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on April 27, 2012, 07:16:41 PM
1982 CX500TX Turbo parts.
In the process of building this salt cycle we have a aquierd a stack of GOOD Used Parts
Rear wheel with new Dunlop tire , rear shock , front forks , complete front brake system & more
If you need parts send me a email ...... cchenowth@cox.net
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: aussiespeedracer on April 28, 2012, 04:34:31 PM
CHEER FROM AUSTRALIA  :cheers:
American Land Speeder are a great bunch of blokes. Jacob proved I'm right about you yanks. He offered us a mate's rate at his house when we're in the States. If we had the time, we would nick down to San Diego & lob in for a holiday. We will only have 3 days in the States so there won't be time.  We will alley up when we get to Bonneville. We can toss an ox on the barbie & have a bit of a boozer.
Do us a favor & leave Freddy at his flat.
Doug
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: grumm441 on April 28, 2012, 07:33:16 PM
Larry Storck at JIMCO got the rear wheel & wheel discs finished
Jacob took them to be polished & anodized. We aren't going to paint much on this bike ,parts are going to be powder coated or anodized. Jacob keeps saying" this bike is going to look BITCHEN.....


Hey Guys
Nice build
Just one thing with the rear wheel disc, when you get to tech inspection, they need to see that you have a metal valve stem and metal valve cap. so make sure the hole is big enough to see it and also big enough so that if you drop the valve cap in there, you can get it out
G
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 02, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
This has nothing to do with the salt cycle but it need to be mentioned...
Jacob Bagnell III, OUR RIDER, is a teacher at Anderson Valley Junior/Senior High School in Booneville California
He has been named the 2012 California  Science Teacher of the year at the 2012 California State Science Fair.
CONGRATS JACOB
I wish I had a photo of him with his students , but I don't,  Here is the best photo I have of him. This was taken last year when we were working on the #200 Belly Tank for speedweek 2011

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/9jacobframe.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 06, 2012, 10:05:34 PM
Jacob Bagnell ( our crew chief ) & has son Jacob Bagnell III ( our rider ) right after Jacob III was named 2012 California Science Teacher of the Year
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/10award.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 08, 2012, 04:16:40 PM
The stock air box coming off the turbo needed to be modified to improve air flow
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/b2-1.jpg)
Here it is after jacob modified it & Randy re-installedon on the bike.  While we had it off we had it  powder coating red
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/b3.jpg)
Here it is again , it is a bit hard to see stuffed in above the motor & the between the red motor mounts
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/b8.jpg)

We also got another set of valve covers & those were also powder coated red. They will be installed in the next few weeks
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/vc1.jpg)

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 08, 2012, 04:36:33 PM
Randy being the main photographer on this project . He doesn't get seen much in the photos. But every once in a while Jacob will grab the camera & snap few photos. I always know when Jacob has the camera because before he takes any photos we always hear him say " How do you turn this stupid thing on "
Here is Randy installing the air box
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/rd1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 08, 2012, 04:45:27 PM
Jacob got a COOL new racing battery that is half the size of the stock battery. Here is Jacob modifing the battery box. I think he is going to move the fuel pump in next to the battery.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/rdy3.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 08, 2012, 05:08:55 PM
We had to modify the top of the triple tree to get the GPR steering stabilizer to fit. That meant miling off the stock handle bar mounts.
That wasn't a problem because we wanted to move the bars down on the front shocks anyway.
Jacob was going to make the clamp-on bars , but he found this set at a great price. Here they are on the bike , with the kill switch & new blue anodized aluminum controls.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/hb3.jpg)


Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 08, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
Kent Willis at A to Z Metal Finishing do a BITCHEN job on the rear wheel discs & the foot peg mounts.
 (http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/rw10.jpg)

I can't wait to get the new gas tank & front fender finished. Those will go to A to Z be anodizes gold also.
If anything this is one bike that will not be hard to find at the salt flats.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 09, 2012, 09:34:51 PM
 :cheers: A SPECIAL THANKS TO Seldom Seen Slim :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 10, 2012, 07:35:20 PM
OBSOLETE PARTS HUNT & DEALING WITH THE HONDA CX CULT....  :mrgreen:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

Finding parts for this bike can be a pain , I mean  regular stuff like gaskets & filters ....But a few times we have needed good  hard parts that the Honda dealer just don't have or they say they are OBSOLETE......

Here is our most recent problem....... The rear brake master cylinder on our bike was trash & couldn't be rebuilt. We checked with Honda & they don't carry that part for the CX500TC anymore . We searched online for a CX500TC master cylinder with no luck. Every place said OBSOLETE or NOT AVAILABLE. We looked on eBay, I had seen them in the past. HELL , No one has one listed right now on eBay. There are rebuild kits , but if you need the master cylinder itself your out of luck...We thought about getting a master cylinder from another bike & modifying it or fabing up a new mount.. But before we went there . I did a little research & found that the rear master cylinder on the CX500TC turbo is the same as a the master cylinder on some of the CB Honda Motorcycles from the same time period. I called Honda again & they have one in stock for the CB Motorcycle.....I asked the parts guy to check & see if it is the same as the CX500TC. He says it checks out as being the same. So we are going to take our old one to Honda & double check to see if it the same.
 KEEP OUR FINGER CROSSED

We had the same problem with the fuel pump ,no one offers a fuel pump for the CX500TC turbo. But with a little research we found that a Honda Prelude uses the same fuel pump. Who would have ever thought to look there . NOT US....A CX rider in Australia hooked us up with that little bit of info....
CHEERS MATE  :cheers:

When a factory parts guy says a part is no longer available or is obsolete. Don't give up. Ask the guys that have that bike or car & ask them what  they do for parts. We have picked the brains of CX riders all over  the world. 7 times out of 10 we get a solution to our problem. Some of the times you have to take what the CX riders are saying with a grain of salt & I don't mean Bonneville salt. When they find out we are building a salt racer out of a  CX500TC . They won't give up any info at all.
They act like we are committing a sin against their CX CULT. :mrgreen:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil: ...LOLOLOL

We had one guy offer to help us if we restored our bike back to factory specs, but wanted noting to do with us as a salt race team.
 I hope we don't offend to many CX guys by chopping up a  good street bike , just to run it on the salt. BUT isn't that what dry lakes guys & Hot Rodders  have been doing for decades. If we have to  make a few people mad & step on a few toes just to go fast -
 I think the SALT GODS will be happy with us
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JimL on May 10, 2012, 08:03:01 PM
Just a money saving note.... You can get from any JPN brand master to about any caliper by using Speedway AN3 to 10mm metric adaptors.  I thread a piece of steel round stock for 10mm all the way through.  The original banjo fitting bike hose threads into one end (Speedway has bolts also).  I braze the "AN to metric" adaptor into the other end.  Speedway sells the braided stainless lines for 15-20 dollars in many lengths.

Cheap way to mix and match and get things hooked up that are no longer in original position.  If you are not fairing restricted, its nice to have the rear brake on the handlebar instead of the foot.....nice for loading and maneuvering on foot.....easy to do with long brake line available.

JimL
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 10, 2012, 08:29:30 PM
JIML
Thanks for the info on the rear master cylinder modification. Honda only wants $56 bucks for a new CB Master cylinder. If fit checks out we are going to run it. If not we had already figured how we would fab up another one
It's funny , Honda wants $56 for a little motorcycle master cylinder , I just put one on my ford truck & it was only $43  
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: saltwheels262 on May 10, 2012, 10:48:12 PM
bd usmc,
try carolina cycle warehouse for nos parts.
many diagrams, good prices and fast service.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 24, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
Been a while since I have gone to Jacobs shop to get caugth up on what Jacob has been doing on the salt cycle.  It was 7:15am Thursday morning when I arrived & Jacob was already out in his shop working on the bike
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/a1.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/a4.jpg)

The first thing I wanted to see is the rear master cylinder. We went through hell finding one. We thought we had a line on a new one from the Honda dealer. I called & talked to the parts guys , I gave them the part number & they said they had one in stock. I told them to hold it & we would come pick it up. When Jacob went there they gave him a rebuild kit. Jacob went round & round with them & got nowhere. Jacob purchased the rebuilt kit because we figured we would need it. We did some searching online & found a good used one. When it was delivered , Jacob cleaned it up ,had it powder coated & rebuilt it.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/m1.jpg)

Jacob mounted the master cylinder & installed the caliper & new brake line
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/x2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 24, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
The next thing I noticed was Jacob had the new brake linkage finished & on the bike. With the pegs set back it all had to be fabricated.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/m3.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/m2.jpg)

Then I noticed the shift linkage on the other side was almost finished. All it needs is to go to powdercoat. Moving the shifer back seem like a simple thing , but those of you that are familiar with the CX motor will appreciate that this is not as easy as it sounds.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/s4.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/s2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Glen on May 24, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
Nice work
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 24, 2012, 09:04:31 PM
Next was the oil filter , Jacob fabricated a spacer with oil cooler lines coming out the side & it has a new oil pressure gauge. We have a new aluminum filter with a washable stainless filter element. That ugly black filter was used for mock up. The new filter had just been delivered & Jacob hadn't spun it on yet. If I had been thinking ,I would have spun it on for the photo.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/oil2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 24, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
 Jacob has almost everything done on the handle bars. He has the new tach mounted & wired. The stabilizer on & the kill switch .All that is missing it a main power switch. Jacob has been to a few parts dealers & every switch has been a cheap piece of crap. Jacob is a bit of a perfectionist. He isn't going to compromise on the quality of the switch. I totaly agree with him. The last thing we need is to spend all this time & money on the bike & have a switch problem at the salt flats. We are going through aircraft parts catalogs looking for a switch that we like.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/010.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 24, 2012, 09:42:08 PM
Jacob finished the new batter box. Using this new smaller battery there was room in the box for the starter solenoid.
Mounted on the bottom of the battery box is the new fuel pump. We were going to use a stock style fuel pump. But after talking to other CX owners we heard the stock pump can be problematic at times. So we decided to dodge that  bullet & we laid out the cash for a nice racing fuel pump
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/bat3.jpg)


With all this fabricating & tinkering Jacob has been doing .I was surprised  when I looked at the tail end. The guy that owned this bike before us had cut off the back end of the frame & had it looking like a cafe racer. Jacob didn't like the looks of the open ended frame tubes. I don't know where he got them ,but he has these cool looking blue anodized plugs. Jacob said he also wanted to seal off the frame to keep the salt out of the frame as much as we can.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/020.jpg)

Another little detail I almost missed is these little pegs for the the pit stand. We had looked at a cool pit stand at the Honda dealer. But they wanted a bit more than we were willing to spend on a pit stand. Jacob purchased the blue anodized pegs ,the pit stand is going to be made at the Monta Vista High School metal shop.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/prop.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: saltwheels262 on May 24, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
great bellcrank and linkage for the shifter.
not familiar with your motor but the fab work on the bike is top notch.
I like plain black oil filters. and would stay away from chrome or anything else. imo.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 25, 2012, 12:58:30 AM
saltwheels262
Are you kidding about that UGLY black oil filter.
Here is a photo of the the style oil filter we are going to use. It isn't chrome... Knowing Jacob the way I do... I have a feeling the filter case & the spacer Jacob fabricated will be making a trip to Kent Willis at AtoZ Metal Finishing
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/flo.jpg)


99.99% of the credit for the fabricated parts on this salt cycle needs to go to JACOB BAGNELL.
We are working on a VERY tight budget on this build. We don't have the cash some of these other team have & we have NO official sponsors.
So we are forced to fabricate this stuff. Jacob spent almost 4 decades working as a  Industrial Arts teacher in a public High School. He is use to working on a tight budget. As we all know public school administrator spend most of their time cutting money out of programs for the kids so they can spend it on stupid stuff..... Every dollar we save by making parts is another dollar we can spend on stuff like fuel , oil , spark plugs, gaskets & on getting our butts to Bonneville
The way I see it, how can you have much pride in a machine you purchased out of a catalog & just bolted together.

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 25, 2012, 10:50:49 AM
Jacob asked me to add these comments , Jacob is amazing when it come to fabrication but he has issues with his computer.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/1jacob.jpg)
The black filter is great but we wanted to take advantage of the wire mesh. The mesh can cleaned and  checked for metal in the oil. A paper filter can restrict oil at first start up and high speeds. The adapter I fabricated has a bypass built in , I wanted to avoid restriction at high speed.

JIML had commented on our master cylinder issue... the front master is a great idea but we already had all new parts for rear style. We didnt see worn out clip grove in the old master cylinder untill we had decided to go with the rear style. Money is so tight we couldnt start over.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: saltwheels262 on May 25, 2012, 11:01:44 AM
I agree also on the mesh filter.
my issue was over chrome plated filters.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: aussiespeedracer on May 28, 2012, 02:36:41 AM
CHEERS FROM AUSTRAILA  :cheers:
The bike is starting to look FAST.... Jacob your doing a ripper job on the fabrication.
Does the whacker you got the bike from know what you have done with his wan-a-be cafe bike....
Keep up the good work
Doug
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on May 31, 2012, 12:34:09 AM
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/carrollshelby.jpg)

CARROLL SHELBY MEMORIAL , San Diego , JBA speed shop, Home of the San Diego Roadster Club

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/021.jpg)

Click on the photos below to see the video

At 6:55 pm , Everyone revved their motor
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_026.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=026.mp4)

After the memorial a few of the boys said goodby to Carrol in their own way on the way out
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_025.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=025.mp4)

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_028.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=028.mp4)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 02, 2012, 05:20:39 PM
Jacob & his good friend Mark Bodrie were invited to the Carroll Shelby Memorial at the Peterson Museum in L.A
They were hob - knobing with some well known folks from the racing & automotive world.

Jacob Bagnell , Edsel Ford II & Mark Bodrie
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/edsel.jpg)

Jacob Bagnell , Bob Bondurant & Mark Bodrie
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/bobbondeant.jpg)

Mark Bodrie , Mr & Mrs Dan Gurney & Jacob Bagnell
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/gernay.jpg)

Mark Bodrie , Henery Ford III & Jacob Bagnell
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/henryiii.jpg)


Lee Iacocca
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/leeiacoca.jpg)


Jay Leno
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/leno.jpg)

Parnelli Jones & Don THE SNAKE Prudhomme
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/pjsnake.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on June 03, 2012, 07:05:29 PM
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/carrollshelby.jpg)

CARROLL SHELBY MEMORIAL , San Diego , JBA speed shop, Home of the San Diego Roadster Club

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/021.jpg)

Click on the photos below to see the video

At 6:55 pm , Everyone revved their motor
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_026.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=026.mp4)

After the memorial a few of the boys said goodby to Carrol in their own way on the way out
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_025.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=025.mp4)

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_028.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=028.mp4)

Those guys doing blasts in the Mustangs are J A C K A S S E S!
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on June 03, 2012, 08:16:42 PM
Are we doing "Build Diaries" or Facebook here?  Come on and show us your bike stuff! :evil:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 1212FBGS on June 03, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
guess were gonna have to find our old "M" chassis just in case
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 04, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
CHILL OUT FOLKS
If I want to mention things other than the bike.... I'LL DO IT. No need to get your panties in a twist......
Constructive criticism is always welcome. But there is no reason to be nasty or post just to be a J.A.C.K.A.$.$.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 04, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
Jacob has the brakes finished , the stock bracket on the rear brake reservoir looked like hell so Jacob fabed up a new one
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/rm2.jpg)

We also have started to fabricate the pit stand
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/pitstand.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 04, 2012, 07:32:35 PM
The custom aluminum radiator is almost done, It is being made in New York. We needed to fab some brackets for it so we zip-tied the stock radiator on the bike & used it to make the brackets. The stock radiator is wide as a bill-board. The new radiator is will be 4 to 5 inches narrower
on both sides.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/rad1.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/rad2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 04, 2012, 07:37:58 PM
Larry Storch at ZOOM-FACTOR called & said he was ready for the bike.
So we loaded it up & off to Santee we go.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/1.jpg)

Larry is going to build the fuel tank , front fender , seat & rear fender.
Here is jocob telling Larry what we want & what the rule book will allow for the class we are running in.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/12.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/9.jpg)

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(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/4.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 11, 2012, 01:15:28 AM
With the bike at VOOM FACTOR getting the tank & fenders made,There isn't much to report on the bike. Tomorrow Jacob & I are going to take some parts to Larry & check on his progress.

Today I made a run up to JACK'S GARAGE in Fountain Valley CA to see my friend Jack Underwood. For those of you that don't know about JACK'S GARAGE ... your missing out.... Jack opens his garage door every morning at 7am (Except Holiday's) He pushes out his old street roadster & his old dry lakes roadster. For the next 3 hours Hot Rodders & Racers show up to  drink coffee, eat donuts , do a little bench racing & tell jokes. You never know who will be there , sometime some of the BIG names of racing will show up. If you have a question about racing Jack can most of the time get you an answer or someone there will help you out.
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/150520_1692734999169_2144955_n.jpg)

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/76579_1692714478656_6885634_n.jpg)

Jack sometimes has t-shirt you can buy,  but everytime I have been there, he has been out of shirts or he doesn't have one in my size. This morning was no different. NO T-SHIRTS. But I did luck out... He had cast aluminum car plaques shapped like the head of a flathead ford that say JACK'S GARAGE F.V., This is a rough casting, with a little machine work & some paint. This plaque will become a prized posession in my collection
(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 13, 2012, 02:43:38 PM
Jacob found a bitchen fuel cap. It is a VERTX V-3  vented cap with a vibration lock
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/0000-Vortex-V3-Gas-Cap-Black.jpg)

Jacob machined a aluminum receiver & delivered it to Larry so he could install it on the fuel tank
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/008.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/009.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 14, 2012, 04:03:18 PM
Bit by bit we are getting stuff done while the bike is in  having the tank , fender & body made
Jacob has the pit stand pretty much done , we took it to  ZOOM FACTOR to see how it works before we button up the welding & send it for powder coat.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/005.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/004.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/003.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: maj on June 15, 2012, 07:05:39 PM
Are you going to be somewhat limited by the gearing ?? is there alternate model shaft drives you could use like the 3 cyl yamaha 750 or later Honda cruisers
or do what the drag V maxes did and convert to chain drive ??
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on June 16, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
Quote
or do what the drag V maxes did and convert to chain drive ??

I would see that as a problem due to the orientation of the crank. Unlike the VMax the crank in this bike is turning the same direction as the shaft. It is possible but makes the process more problematic and further increase the inherent loss in a drive line system where the energy is transferred from one rotational direction to another. (<this might be duke as I am just thinking out loud and writing it down.....)

Depending on desired speed gearing may be an issue....unless Robinson is willing to pop out some high ratios....or maybe some really big OD tires!

That being said, I really like this bike and always wanted a CT500. Keep up the awesome work!~

~JH
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 1212FBGS on June 16, 2012, 03:47:41 AM
our first "M" cx500 we used a right angle drive to convert to chain drive.... for the "A" chassis we just turned the darn motor sideways
kent
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on June 17, 2012, 12:06:11 AM
What kind of right drive did you use that could handle the horsepower and rpm?
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 17, 2012, 06:14:05 PM
Honda built the CX500TC as a street bike / highway cruiser , They never intended for it to be a race bike. Weather they did it on purpose or not . They built in a lot of road blocks in making this bike run  FAST!!!!. The gearing is just one of the issue….. We are aware of that, but being a new build that is something we are going to address down the road (or should I say SALT).  

Being our first year ( or should I say 6 months) to build a salt bike , I think it would be pretty arrogant to think that 3 salt bike newbe's could solve all the inherent issues of making a CX500TC run FAST & set a record on our first trip to the salt.  Don’t get me wrong….. A record in our class would be nice , but we are in this to built a bitchen salt bike , see how fast this bike will go & have FUN.

The belly tank & car owner ( I will not use his name out of respect …), That we went to speedweek 2011 with was one headache after another. Not being the car owner , we had little to say about what or how things got done.  I had a great time being at Bonneville 2011 even with all the problems we had. It was cool watching the other cars run & I got to know a lot of cool folks. BUT…. It was almost embarrassing to be in the pits working on that car & have the car owner freak out at us on a daily basis over stupid stuff that was his fault in the first place. We would solve a problem, Tow 8+ miles to the starting line & have something  else go wrong. The crew finally decided to pull the plug because it became a safety issue. The car owner didn’t agree with us & has been talking smack about us for almost a year….That is why Jacob & I walked away from that project.....

For 2012 Speedweek we want to go to Bonneville , have a good time & hopefully gain the respect of the other racers.…. Our first objective was to build a quality race machine. Once it is done, we are going to Bonneville to shake down this bike. See what it does & then address the issues as they come up.  

Sure there are a lot of things we would like to try. But with limited time & money , there is only so much we can do before Speedweek.

 
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 20, 2012, 12:31:52 PM
I stopped by to see how larry was doing on the bike. He was working on the front fender
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/001.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/002.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on June 20, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
Randy, after reading your reply #100 I have to say I am sorry how things turned out with the lakester last year. I went back to your rebuilt thread on the garage journal and looked again at all the effort you guys put into it. Bummer.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Koncretekid on June 20, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
One thing is for sure about building a land speed racer - - you either pay the big bucks, or you have to have a great deal of talent and resources on your team.  From what I've seen of your build, you have the talent and the resources.  You're building a first class machine here.  Unfortunately, you may find that the parts you will need to go further will start costing serious money (as I have)!  Have fun and I hope to see you there, although I will only be at Loring and BUB.

Tom
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 21, 2012, 05:13:50 PM
Stopped in to see how the body work was going , Larry has the front fender almost done.

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/f3.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/f2.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/f4.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/f1.jpg)

While I was there Gary Brady showed up with the gas tank. We had talked about a LOW curved coffin style tank. I was totally blown away when I saw the tank. It still needs the mounting tabs & petcocks ,But this will give you a basic idea of what it will look like when it is done
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/t1.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/t2.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/t3.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/t4.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/t5.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/tc.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: aussiespeedracer on June 21, 2012, 05:41:29 PM
CHEERS FROM AUSTRAILA  :cheers:
Every time I log on to this blog I'm amazed at what you guys are doing. The front finder looks great ,But that tank is a ripper.
Doug
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Glen on June 21, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Excellent craftsmanship for sure, be great to see the completed package. :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 28, 2012, 07:14:20 PM
Our rider Jacob Bagnell Jr. , ordered a custom set leathers from PILOT PACIFIC Inc in Murrieta, CA. this week.
The manager ,Alberto Gonzalez took the time to get exactly what Jacob Jr. wanted & to make sure they complied with SCTA rules.
They make a top quality set of riding leather & they gave us a great price. The workmanship is unbelieveable, The leathers have all the body armor and will go over the boot. We couldn't have asked for better people to work with.
Thank you Alberto & everyone at PILOT PACIFIC Inc.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/photo1.jpg)

The leathers will take about a week to get finished up , Here is what they will look like
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/LEATHERS.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/LEATHERS-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 30, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
Being a new team... We could use some sponsors.. There is lots of room on the leathers and bike for you company logo
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 55chevr on June 30, 2012, 07:05:01 PM
What is a sponsor?
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Jon on June 30, 2012, 07:21:00 PM
Removed at the request of the owner of the build...
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 30, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/powerparts.png)
Jacob & I want to say thanks to Mike at POWER-BARN
He hooked us up with the clamp on handle bars & a lot of other parts
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/010.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 01, 2012, 01:51:32 AM
Larry has the boby work & front fender done , We are going to pick up the bike monday.
When I heard it was done I could wait so I drove over & got some photos.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/019.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/018.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/017.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/F2-Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JoeRider677 on July 01, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
That metal work is art. It's a good looking bike. Best of luck at Speekweek
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: SaltPeter on July 01, 2012, 06:28:17 PM
Art alright there is no other word

Pete
DLRA#866
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 02, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
Today was a big day , We picked the bike up from larry's shop
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/007.jpg)
That was just the start of a very busy morning.... We took the bike to the sign painter so he could see what he has to work with & we gave him the details on what we HAD to have on the bike. Then it was back up to Jacobs house & we started stripping it down so we can finish up on a 100 small detail. Then we drove back down the  hill to take the tank , body , fender & other parts to ROMERO'S CUSTOM POLISHING to prep the aluminum for anodizing. Then it was over to ECP POWDER COATING to drop off parts. Then back to Jacob's house . It may not sound like much , but Jacob put  100+++ miles on his truck running back & forth. Then deailing with the painter , polisher & powder coater. It ate up our morning pretty quick.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bak189 on July 02, 2012, 05:47:25 PM
With all the very important people you all seem to know....I would think finding a major sponsor should not be a problem................................

Very nice bike...........but remember like my good friend Mike Parti once told me...."We are not really as interested, as you think we are"......................
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 02, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
bak189
 As we all know SPEED ain't cheap  & the first letter in the word speed should have a line in the middle
**** $PEED  ****
It ain't easy to get a major sponsor till you have a finished running machine. We just thought we would get the word out....

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JoeRider677 on July 02, 2012, 09:16:02 PM
Some sponsors are not all that easy to come by even after you've already knocked down some records. I trust that you gentlemen are coming after Foil Hat.....
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 03, 2012, 02:11:35 AM
Joe
From what I have seen..... FOIL HAT runs 500cc in MPS-BG  , MPS-BF , M-BG & M-BF
We aren't running in any of those classes........
Hope to see you at the salt :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JoeRider677 on July 03, 2012, 06:42:36 AM
Not planning on Bonneville this year, still learning a lot about the program. What class are you planning on running?
It's a great looking bike, the aluminium work is art, all my stuff is function first. Best of luck on the salt, Foil Hat Racing will be out there next year. We're running the Ohio Mile this weekend.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JoeRider677 on July 03, 2012, 12:49:31 PM
Just figured out that the CX is a pushrod motor.....
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JimL on July 03, 2012, 10:18:25 PM
Running pushrods is good for you....you learn patience from all the stuff that breaks, humility from all the ideas that dont work, manual dexterity from tearing down the engine every 4 or 5 runs, and lose extra weight in the bargain (all from your wallet, unfortunately). :-P.

Hoping my engine will last a couple runs, again this year, and there is enough left to rebuild again!  Hope to see you all on the salt....be safe and have a good trip.

JimL
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stan Back on July 03, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
No more doubles for you?
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: JimL on July 05, 2012, 02:10:46 PM
Not this year, of course, but I have an idea, and there is room in my frame.  I still carry fond memories of Don Sligers twin Enfield in 1969.  I visited him in his pit, as we were right next to each other, and watched him run about 190 with that open bike.  His bike was so neat, compact, and clean.....for a young guy, it left a powerful impression.

JimL
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 06, 2012, 10:24:42 PM
While waiting for the tank, fender & body to get done at AtoZ Metal finishing. Jacob got the turbo finished up & back on the bike , He also put the new valve covers on.  When we first got the bike is was FLAT BLACK all over ,It looked like hell . It nice to see some color on it now.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/007-1.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/010-2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on July 07, 2012, 12:00:32 AM
The turbo and exhaust look great, what finish did you put on them?  Are you going to wrap any of it?
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 07, 2012, 12:47:03 AM
Thanks for the thumbs up on how the turbo looks. Not sure what Jacob used as a finish on it. He alway has some trick I woudn't have thought of using. Everytime we get together he has some new idea . A few times I have to stop & think about it before the light in my  head finally clicks on...& I have one of those OH YEAH moments...  Yes he is going to wrap the turbo.

 We know that looks don't make the bike go fast. Jacob has been building Speedway , Drag & offroad bike for decades.... He works over time on trying to squeeze all  he can out of a bike. He also prides himself in make anything he works on look BITCHEN. His use of color has gone way above what I thought we were going to do on this bike. This is going to be one bike that is easy to see on the salt.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: grumm441 on July 07, 2012, 09:04:55 PM

 We know that looks don't make the bike go fast.....

That's a shame, because it looks pretty good from here
G
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: SaltPeter on July 08, 2012, 12:30:31 AM
It looks great and I have no doubt that it will be fast.

Pete
DLRA#866
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Freud on July 08, 2012, 12:56:59 AM
Sliger was the first to break 200 MPH w/o a fairing. Buddy Martinez was in line right next to him.

Sliger was the first and Buddy, the same day, went slightly faster than Don but he wasn't first to do it.

Don had Royal Enfields and Buddy rode Triumph power.

That was a long time ago but Buddy's disappointment is still vivid to me.

There is a foto of Sliger in the Bonneville pictures on this site. Higbee was talking to him by the tow rig.

FREUD
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 16, 2012, 04:13:10 PM
Well Race fans ... The "BAGNELL BAGGO CHENOWTH RACING" #338 M/PBG Salt Cycle is pretty much ready to go to Bonneville.

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/001-1.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/002-1.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/004-1.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/005-1.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/006.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/007-2.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/008-1.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/010-3.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/009-2.jpg)

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Glen on July 16, 2012, 04:40:15 PM
Sliger and Enz were Gear Grinders and I have a bunch of info and a magazine article on them. The bike is in a museum and still has the club decal on it. :cheers:

Sliger was the first to break 200 MPH w/o a fairing. Buddy Martinez was in line right next to him.

Sliger was the first and Buddy, the same day, went slightly faster than Don but he wasn't first to do it.

Don had Royal Enfields and Buddy rode Triumph power.

That was a long time ago but Buddy's disappointment is still vivid to me.

There is a foto of Sliger in the Bonneville pictures on this site. Higbee was talking to him by the tow rig.

FREUD
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Koncretekid on July 16, 2012, 05:34:24 PM
Heads up on the seat pod.  BUB/AMA regulations require the following: "Any aerodynamic aid at the rear of the motorcycle (including the riders seat/tail section), shall not extend past the most rearward edge of the rear tire, should not be higher than 5 inches above the lowest section of the top of the seat cushion or seat base if no cushion is used" I believe from my interpretation of this rule that you can add a seat cushion to make sure you don't violate the 5 inch rule.
Tom
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on July 16, 2012, 06:05:36 PM
Not this year, of course, but I have an idea, and there is room in my frame.  I still carry fond memories of Don Sligers twin Enfield in 1969.  I visited him in his pit, as we were right next to each other, and watched him run about 190 with that open bike.  His bike was so neat, compact, and clean.....for a young guy, it left a powerful impression.

JimL

My first trip to the salt was 1970 and I talked to Sliger, too! These are my shots in the 1970 gallery:

http://www.landracing.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=213&pid=8970#top_display_media

I wondered what happened to his bike and saw it again in 2001 in the lobby of the National Motorcycle Museum in Birmingham, England in a little different trim!  :cheers:

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 16, 2012, 11:57:44 PM
I almost forgot to thank SCOTT ( The King of Kool )  at WIZARD COOLING in New York
He did a fantastic job on our custom radiator. This radiator is much narrower than the stock radiator BUT it hold more coolant.

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/009-3.jpg)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/010-4.jpg)

After a quick dip at  A to Z metal finishing this is the finished produckt on the bike
 (http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/004-2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: DND on July 17, 2012, 01:46:17 AM
Hi Big

Neat looking salt bike, you just might check on painting your new radiator fins as it could slow down the cooling part with the fins being coated instead of bare alum?

Strip the fins and have the outside in the blue to take full advantage of the alum fins, plus it is hot up there and need all the help you can get not to get it overheated and burn it down.

Don
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 17, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
DON / DND

Jacob asked me to reply to your comment on painting the radiator.........

When I coat aluminum I refer to a  book called " The surface treatment and finishing of aluminum and its alloys" by Wernick. I have used this many times. Some things I have learned over the years are:     Anodizing air intercoolers help with heat transfer.    The thicker the anodize the better the cooling.   All heat sinks are anodized, or they will fail.   All colors of anodize are the same for heat radiation.    As a radiator is used it will oxide anyway.   Anodizing is better than paint for heat transfer.    When i was a kid everything was painted black.   Powder coating radiators sucks.      The radiation # of aluminum.....mirror or matt finish is 0.75 max.....painted black is 1.5.....anodized is 4.3 or 92% . That is why I put AtoZ metal finishing in the blog. I still pay but they do a great job. After anodizing I coat with Old English furniture lemon oil. I am not saying what i did was perfect or anybody is wrong but i tried to use science. BUT, more important than all that....it looks bitchen!!! 
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: donpearsall on July 17, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
Koncrete is korrect that the tail cowling will not pass for BUB rules. I know from experience. I had something very similar on my custom built tail (served as inter cooler tank). I had to rebuild it lower than 5 inches tall.
Better verify and modify it before getting there or you will be using a hack saw to get past tech.
Don
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 17, 2012, 08:35:46 PM
We are running SCTA SPEEDWEEK ,We are not running BUB
We have run this past SCTA & they approved it.....
Thanks for the input......
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: DND on July 18, 2012, 08:06:58 AM
Hi Big

OOps thought it was paint it looks so good, i understand about ano on the fins.

What does he mean you would have to cut your rear fairing to run at Bub?

Don
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 19, 2012, 01:42:46 AM
We took the salt cycle out for its public bebut at the El Cajon Classic Car Cruz
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/004-3.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/005-2.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/013.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/016.jpg)
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/021.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: donpearsall on July 19, 2012, 11:01:10 AM
DND, my mistake. I assumed the bike was going to run at BUB (AMA sanctioned, not SCTA). The AMA rules are much stricter than SCTA for many things, including aerodynamics. The tail on this bike would not pass AMA rules because it is more than 5" taller than the seat base.
But the point is moot since they are running SCTA rules.

Don
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 19, 2012, 02:48:31 PM
 I started this thread to document this biuld, Not open a public forum. Maybe it is my fault for starting this tread...
I wish I had a little more control of what gets posted. It would be great to have a DELETE button.

It's great that everyone with a keyboard is an expert on what we are doing, with out reading the entire thread.
They read a few of the posts , look at a few photos & they start telling us we are doing things wrong & clutter up this build diary with USELESS GARBAGE
Don't get me wrong , I like to hear constructive criticism , some of you have come up with some very valid point. For those few educated salt freaks, I thank you for posting...
But those of you that pipe in with snap judgements or post stuff that has NOTHING to do with this build. PLEASE don't post in this thread  :evil:

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stan Back on July 19, 2012, 02:52:43 PM
So you can more room for unknown people posing?
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Jon on July 19, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
If you didn't want to start a public forum you possibly shouldn't have posted on a .....public forum.....

People are trying to offer you assistance.
You bag someone who tries to help and then apologizes to you WTF.

I expect I will receive another email from you as I did after I posted a bit of a joke on here last time.


jon
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stan Back on July 19, 2012, 03:39:55 PM
You bet.  I got one.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 19, 2012, 03:43:12 PM
STAN BACK & JON
Your latest posts are EXACTLY what I was talking about.....
I know this is a public fourm... but why do you have to post stuff that has nothing to do with the bike????
It is funny how some people read a simple request & think it is their chance to post MORE USELESS GARBAGE
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Glen on July 19, 2012, 04:33:57 PM
Big Daddy keep posting and don't worry about some of the comments some add. It's a nice build and as you have seen many don't read the whole forum or article.  :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: saltwheels262 on July 19, 2012, 05:57:08 PM
If you didn't want to start a public forum you possibly shouldn't have posted on a .....public forum.....

People are trying to offer you assistance.
You bag someone who tries to help and then apologizes to you WTF.

I expect I will receive another email from you as I did after I posted a bit of a joke on here last time.


jon

+1

I have read this whole thread and can't remember everything that's on it.

I haven't seen anything but constructive help most of the time on this whole landracing.com.
including this thread.

I really like the aluminum (?) bodywork.

bill franey
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 19, 2012, 07:11:21 PM
The Bike is DONE.  So this will be my last post on this build diary.
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/004-3.jpg)
I want to thank everyone that has helped us get this bike finished. Without your hard work & quality products, this bike would have never happened. We are now going to concentrate on getting to the salt & doing the best we can with this new bike.

I want to thank most of you for follwing this thread. :cheers: I hope to see you at Bonnevile for the SCTA 2012 SPEEDWEEK.

For the hand full of bone heads that have posted usless garbage , stupid jokes or just wanted to post because they don't have a life.
All I can suggest is you need to get professional help...... :-D
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on July 19, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
Randy, Jake & Jacob

I have enjoyed all your posts.  Thanks for sharing everything with us.  Yes, some of us have poked fun at times, but I think everything was in good spirit.  No telling how many times I have been told I am dumber than an idiot.  Since there are only a few of us who race the CX's, sometimes the questions may sound dumb, but might be more about how someone is curious about the bike.  At least they are interested enough to read the posts, right?  We have a lot of people on here who race at all kinds of venues from Utah to Oz, so not everyone may be familiar with the rules.  Don, who posted a few posts above, holds a number of records on the CX and other bikes, I think the guy knows what he is talking about.  Besides, I own the old bike that set a bunch of the records.  :-D  In any event, if someone spotted one of my boo boos, I would much prefer they point it out while I am in my garage in Arkansas, rather than having to learn it in tech on the salt. So consider the source, time of day, number of beers consumed while reading or typing and then forgive and forget.  I hope you will  keep us posted about your time on the salt and let us cheer for you to set a record or two.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Stan Back on July 19, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
Ah -- I'll bet that he comes around for another shot.  We want to know who all those people are standing in front of his bike.  And what the girls' names are that are blocking what his "build" has accomplished. 

"You wont have bigdaddy to kick around any more."
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: aussiespeedracer on July 20, 2012, 01:27:29 AM
STAN BACK
 These guys may be new to salt bikes ,but I think they have built a ripper of a bike...
They wanted to document their build & you act like a bloody wanker....

Bigdaddy I hope you don't think that the rest of us salt freaks are total Drongo's like Stan Back
We wish you luck at  Bonneville
Doug
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 21, 2012, 12:21:02 AM
This is  BAGGO. My real name is Jacob Bagnell Sr. When I was 8 I lost my dad. A man named Al Jerauld let me hang around his speed shop. By the time I was in jr high I was working there. Al Jerauld & his partner George Barber ran a little Belly Tank they called THE BABY BOMB in the 1950‘s. They set a lot of land speed records in that belly tank at Bonneville , but I was never able to go. I’m dedicating the build of this bike  to the memory of Al Jerauld
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/AlGorge-Copy.jpg)
George Barber at the wheel ,Al Jerauld standing
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/J1.jpg)
The BABY BOMB

After going to Bonneville last year and meeting so many great people and having so much fun I was hooked. That is where I met my Aussie mate Doug ( aussiespeedracer ) . He is the guy who writes in with a Roo drinking a beer as his profile photo. What a great guy. I just wish I knew what he was talking about sometimes. People down under sure talk funny.

Randy Chenowth’s dad, uncles and the rest of his family have been around racing for ever. This included everything from The Chenowth Dune Buggies ,one of the first MOON type gas pedal, The first V8 Chevy Indy Roadster , a lot early dragster  , circle track modifieds & midgets . They ran at Paradise Mesa , Balboa Stadium & Cajon Speedway just to mention a few. They also built  Lou Bingham’s land speed chassis in the early 1960’s
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/dad3.jpg)
Chuck Chenowth & the San Diego Steel Products CHENOWTH Indy Roadster
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r599/dougdundee/dad4.jpg)
Lou Bingham's LSR Roadster

The biggest thing for me is that my son is going to ride this bike we just finished and we are going to spend some time together. Jacob Jr. is working in Northern California ,We don’t get to see each other that often.  I miss him so much.

There are things that the this bike needs, like a chain drive, a little help with the computer and some  head / turbo work . But the money just wasn’t there this year. We hand built or modified what we could. For having a limited budget I think the bike came out pretty nice….

As far as people writing in, I think its great. I don’t care what anyone says. Some things that people have written have given me some good ideas. Every idea and comment was good to me. I was just surprised so many people were following the build of this goffy looking bike. Once we get to Bonneville, if the bike starts , we get some decent runs on the salt & Randy, Jacob Jr. and I can drink a few beers together . Then all the hard work & money we spent will be well worth it.

See you at the SALT
BAGGO
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Dr Goggles on July 21, 2012, 03:03:50 AM
Uh-oh Chungo ......................International incident!!!!!!!!!!!!

and man ,it's got EVERYTHING!!

Lawless bikers, a beer drinking kangaroo with muscles,anodizing and some guy who can spell from San Bernadino!!!


Hey Baggo, I was looking at a shot yesterday on old fartbook and in the background was a weird lookin tank that looked to be polished Al, now it seems coincidental but I reckon it was that Baby Bomb thing there, is it still around???

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 26, 2012, 01:02:22 AM
WE MOVED....
http://saltfever.weebly.com/index.html
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on July 26, 2012, 02:00:42 AM
Stan Back is a smart guy and my intuition is spot on again.  :roll:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on August 06, 2012, 10:59:41 PM
Big Daddy, your link isn't working, hope you can get it fixed so you can keep us posted from Speedweek.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on August 15, 2012, 12:12:56 AM
Congrats on the 126.953 pass, I smell a record run.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on August 15, 2012, 01:26:07 AM
Randy, fun chat over beers although I will have to call so we can recap it....damn those beers! :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: interested bystander on August 15, 2012, 01:34:10 AM
Belive Chenowth also created the "U Fab Manifold" .

Think Cook and Bedwell 166.97 and the fuel ban.

The late Jim "Topo" Ward used to tell hillarious stories of those San Diego guys.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on August 15, 2012, 06:50:17 PM
We just got home from Bonneville speed week 2012
We olny had a few days to run so we hit it hard & squeezed all we could out of this bike

You have to remember we were running a STOCK 30 year old factory motor that has never been rebuilt
Also we were running a shaft drive with STOCK rear gear ratio.
We didn't get a record but we were right there , our best run was 0.354 mph off the record........
We are very proud of our ROOKIE rider Jacob Bagnell III & we are thrilled with the way the bike ran...
Below are our results

2012 Bonneville Speed Week ,#338 M/PBG  ,Bagnell Baggo & Chenowth Racing
----------------------------------------------------
Saturday August 11 , 2012
                                                      Off record              + /-
Rookie Run         91.225                    36.082
Run #1              112.120                   15.187             + 20.895
Run #2              114.756                   12.551              + 2.636

Sunday August  12 , 2012

Run #3              119.198                    7.551                 + 4.442
Run #4              126.953                    0.354                 + 7.755
Run #5              123.928                    3.379                  - 3.025

Monday August 13 , 2012
Run #6              126.044                     1.263                + 2.116
Run #7              126.255                     1.082                + 0.211
Run #8              126.475                     0.837                + 0.250
Run #9              126.702                     0.605                + 0.227
Run #10            105.428   low speed run for video

Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on August 15, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
Thats close.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: maj on August 16, 2012, 04:55:03 AM
 Congratulations, got lots of passes in right on the record and brought it home alive  :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: edinlr on August 16, 2012, 01:43:08 PM
Best to you guys.  You almost had that perfect run in.  The bike looked great and it sounds like you did not have any major mishaps.  When you get home and settled I would like to visit with you and see what I can do to help you get that extra 1/2 mph for next year.

Ed
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on August 16, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
I know I said I was done with this thread, BUT after having to way to much fun at the Bean Bandits party at the Wendover KOA camp ground. I by chance ran into Tman. We had a long talk & a few cold one, he convinced me to come back to landracing.com.......
So CX Race Fans I'm Back.....

I want to thank all the COOL folks that have been following this thread. Your friendly comments & helpful advice was appreciated. I also want to thank everyone that stopped by our pits at Bonneville.  I have been to many race tracks over the years & met some cool people. BUT Salt Freaks are the best ..... :cheers:
If you didn't get to see us run while we were at the salt or you weren't able to make it to Bonneville. Here is a video of our #6 run ,126.044 mph. It wasn't our fasted run ,but it is the best bit of video I took at Bonneville. My little camera just wasn't the best  choice for videos for the conditions out on the salt.

CLICK ON THE PHOTO TO SEE THE VIDEO......
 (http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/th_070.jpg) (http://s381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/?action=view&current=070.mp4)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Jon on August 16, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
Congratulations on a successful meet.

Looks like a bit of engine work and aftermarket ECU might get you a record.

Was the revlimiter cutting in on the fastest runs?

Cheers
jon
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on August 16, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
Jon
The rev-limiter was something we figured out early on in the build of this bike. We took care of it before we went to Bonneville. It was a easy fix...
You would be surprized what you can get done with a little spit & duct tape LOL

(http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo260/BigDaddyUSMC/052.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on August 17, 2012, 09:50:48 AM
Admit it, you never left :-D

And nothing like some Bean Bandit te-kill-ya an a few cold ones to solve the worlds problems! :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on August 17, 2012, 11:26:19 AM
Tman
NO I was gone....
But you brought me back from the dark side....


& yes ,That night after the Bean Bandits party I was Muy Stinko Borracho :evil:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on August 17, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
All is well. :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: beerbellykelly on August 19, 2012, 02:31:58 PM
hey guys great to meet up at the koa-good to see the bike in the metal-
glad you enjoyed speedweek-how can anyone not?

hope our partying and endless beer drinking werent too bad-we are english & irish-& excited- :cheers:

safe roads-

p.j. #1980 A/ps-F 1350
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: 1212FBGS on September 04, 2012, 01:50:45 AM
curious as to why you are running on our record (127.307) when there are 2 other records that are slower(126.954 and 126.026).... fyi you would have broken one of those
kent
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: aussiespeedracer on October 25, 2012, 09:34:25 PM
CHEERS BigDaddy Baggo & JR. :cheers:
Been a while since I have checked in on you crazy Americans. Been walkabout all over Australia the last month or more working on these bloody boats. Don't have much access to a computer where I've been & I no longer have a email account. I met a HOTTIE in a pub with a laptop & she let me log in & say HI. What have you been up to? Now that the bike is up & running strong any plans on running El Mirage?
SPEEDWEEK 2013 is on my calender, but I plan on it every year & it seems like things get mucked up every year.
If I get some $$$ stocked up I'll be there? ? ? ?
Doug
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on October 29, 2012, 09:07:29 PM
Cheers Doug :cheers:
We were wondering what happened to you.
If you want to see what we have been up to go out our webpage

www.baggoracing.weebly.com
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on June 26, 2013, 10:57:37 PM
Been awhile since I have posted anything here on landracing
 T-MAN... You still around.... Thought I would log in & say HI
Getting close to Speedweek & we are almost ready.

If anyone wants to check out the bike,,,,  Here is a link to our webpage

http://baggoracing.weebly.com/

Here is a photo of the CX at a recent bike show
(http://baggoracing.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/9/12994655/6469681_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: Tman on June 27, 2013, 11:03:11 AM
Got your note Randy and will be staying at the KOA again.
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: SLCMike on July 17, 2013, 02:29:33 PM
The KOA will be a happening place. :cheers:
Title: Re: BAGNELL & CHENOWTH 2012 Bonneville Speedweek CX500tc TURBO
Post by: bigdaddyusmc on July 21, 2013, 12:44:43 AM
KOA is about the second best place besides the bend in the road....
Bean Bandit party is alway fun at KOA...