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Title: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 08, 2012, 04:59:41 PM
I'm gonna start by seeing if I'm smart enough to post a photo of my heap. This is supposed to be a photo of my parachute door. It's made out of a '36 Ford hubcap sandwiched between a couple pieces of aluminum. It was a bit of a bear to weld together on the edge but I toughed it out.  8-) If this works, I'll fill in the blanks on the rest of the car.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on February 08, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Nice!

Kitty litter under a flathead?  What's up with that?   :cheers:

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on February 08, 2012, 05:16:40 PM
Hoo-bloody-ray.

It's about time you got started on the build diary Wayno. I got all choked up when I went into your shed and saw all the stuff , I did threaten to start posting the photo's you'd sent me but I didn't want to jeopardize the chances of ever getting another apricot wood smoked steak....

I know you've got a hamster in a wheel speed connection there but you could try starting an upload before you go to bed, before you go shopping kind of thing so you don't have to sit there for an eon watching the progress bar...there is a hungry audience out here wanting to see tanks get built.

Feed 'em.

Dr G, your tank bro.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 08, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Looks good Wayno, keep the info coming!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 08, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
OK. This is going to be in little bites.  :-P This is a picture of the reason for the V-8 emblem on the chute tube. "39 Mercury, 284 inches,running through a C-4 and a Greek Coupler into a Cyclone Quickchange with late axles. Hot Rod Works did all the modifying and assembly on that.  :-D  Back to the shed for now. More later. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on February 08, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
That is looking really nice Wayno! We're all looking forward to more pictures.

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 08, 2012, 06:34:46 PM
Questions?! Are you producing those slick scoops? What is the scoop on your water tank? Looks great!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 08, 2012, 08:40:40 PM
Trent, I just mocked that scoop up using a Shop-Vac tube 'cause it had a mild taper so I could get it out. That and a bit of urethane foam. What scoop on the water tank are you talking about? Anyway, here's a shot of the car for those of you whom haven't seen it. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on February 08, 2012, 08:48:01 PM
What scoop on the water tank are you talking about? Anyway, here's a shot of the car for those of you whom haven't seen it. Wayno

LOL  I went back and looked, I didn't see a scoop on the water tank either.  I think he means, what's up (what's the deal) with the water tank.

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 08, 2012, 10:37:48 PM
Yeah! Whats up, whats the scoop? OR, is their a radiator in there or is it just a water tank?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on February 09, 2012, 03:19:25 AM
That's looking pretty good Wayno
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Captthundarr on February 09, 2012, 06:22:20 AM
Nice!

Kitty litter under a flathead?  What's up with that?   :cheers:

Mike

Kitty got to go somewhere. Tanks for the tank, looks gooood. :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 10, 2012, 07:33:07 AM
Yeah! Whats up, whats the scoop? OR, is their a radiator in there or is it just a water tank?
Trent, it's a water tank. Here's the inside before I capped it off. If you look closely you can see slots in the tubes for water passage. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 10, 2012, 07:36:39 AM
Here it is closed up. The tubes offer support so the thing doesn't baloon. We'll find out.  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on February 10, 2012, 10:03:33 AM
Looks good, Wayno! I can't wait to see more!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: spbiknut on February 10, 2012, 05:51:13 PM
Looks great! Was wondering where you got the belly tank body?  Also is there something some where that explains the use of a water tank over a radiator.  I understand that airflow is an issue in a belly tank, but I don't really understand the water tank and how it works.  Doesn't need to be said, but I'm new to LSR.

Thanks for any info.

-Troy


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 10, 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Troy, I have the Tanks. And if someone on the Forum buys one, I shoot Jon and Nancy something.  :-D  The water tank is just that. A water tank. You just recirculate water through it during the run. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 10, 2012, 06:13:15 PM
Looks great! Was wondering where you got the belly tank body?  Also is there something some where that explains the use of a water tank over a radiator.  I understand that airflow is an issue in a belly tank, but I don't really understand the water tank and how it works.  Doesn't need to be said, but I'm new to LSR.

Thanks for any info.

-Troy

Troy, wayno SELLS those fine glass tanks.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 10, 2012, 06:56:56 PM
Hey Trent. Who's Tony? Is that a friend of Troy's?  :-D :cheers: :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: spbiknut on February 10, 2012, 07:09:43 PM
That's ok...I've been called worse.  :-D  Thanks for the information.  Is there any kind of standard for the size of the water tank to the size of the engine...or is it just what size can fit the project?  I would think the larger the tank the better?

Thanks again,
-Troy


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 10, 2012, 07:16:50 PM
I was dealing with a 5 year old driving hot wheels up my arm when I typed that! :lol:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 10, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
I was dealing with a 5 year old driving hot wheels up my arm when I typed that! :lol:
Was his name Tony? Sorry.  :roll:  Troy, there are formulas around for that. They used to be around here somewhere. I'll hafta look. Welcome to the Forum. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on February 10, 2012, 10:33:55 PM
Troy, your motor is the burner on your water tank... you don't want the water in your tank to exceed 210 degrees.... so depending on how much burner you have tells you how much water you might need to carry.  We have a 5+ gal tank in the lakester, made around 300 HP by my calculations and ran 5 miles just under 210 degrees...  we start with the water at salt temperature and this year ran a thermostat


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on February 10, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
Troy there are lots of cars running water tanks of various sizes. There are also cars running radiators inside water tanks. The other thing that a lot of people do is make a larger opening in the water tank and add ice before a run. There are lots of ways to skin those cats!

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: spbiknut on February 11, 2012, 09:14:37 AM
Great information guys...thanks! More question to come I'm sure!

-Troy


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 13, 2012, 08:00:28 AM
OK. Here's my chassis when I was painting it last June. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 13, 2012, 08:02:33 AM
The last one was in etching primer and this one is in paint. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 13, 2012, 08:07:26 AM
Now the fun part. You may have noticed the 36" diameter plywood disks mounted on the ends of the chassis to facilitate welding and painting. These were my poor mans rotisserie. This photo is of me strapped in and turned upside down to test belt loading. I figured if it was uncomfortable at this stage it was time to change it. As it turned out, no problem.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 13, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
One more. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Captthundarr on February 13, 2012, 09:05:36 AM
Shoulda found a near by hill to give it the "true" rollover test. Looks real good Wayno :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on February 13, 2012, 09:12:17 AM
Wayno, wow, great test and the lakester looks good.  One question, did you come a couple of inches out of the seat?  It was hard to tell from the pictures.  If so, snug those belts tighter.... 
I don't think I have heard of anyone else doing an intentional roll over test.... quite cool


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on February 13, 2012, 09:55:16 AM
"Shoulda found a near by hill to give it the "true" rollover test. Looks real good Wayno "


Cap'n T we SC guys are adverse to Pencil rolls they have NASTY  :cry: consequences.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 13, 2012, 10:30:33 AM
Stainless, I think I stayed glued to the seat pretty good. Frank, if it's all the same to you I believe I'll pass on that downhill test. Besides, I'm not tearing this heap apart until after next season.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on February 13, 2012, 10:54:35 AM
What I really want to see is a video of the bail out. I'm sure I'd be built in there for life!  :-D :-D :-D

Nice job bye the way and I do like the application of the plywood.

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 13, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
Good call on the upside down, I hope you had some help?!

Reminds me of my first words to my pal Mike after we rolled his Jeep and were upside down Mike, put your hand on the roof BEFORE undo..............."                     THUNK OWW!                   "Nevermind Mike." :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: AJR192 on February 13, 2012, 01:55:13 PM
You shoulda taken it to the park. Kids woulda PAID to get to roll down the hill in it......


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on February 13, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
That puts a whole new 'twist' on sitting in the car, and making vroom-vroom noises! :evil:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on February 13, 2012, 08:50:57 PM
lol


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jack Gifford on February 14, 2012, 01:46:16 AM
How do you exit that cockpit?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on February 14, 2012, 02:47:51 AM
Carefully :-D
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 14, 2012, 07:08:53 AM
How do you exit that cockpit?
I designed this thing with thoughts of getting out easy. The hatch opening is a few inches in front of bar above the steering wheel so I can grab it and pull. There is a crossbar on the floor to place my feets on. It's really quite easy. After dealing with getting out of the Kelly & Hall Lakester (I sure miss Jack and Jerry  :cry:) so many times with great difficulty I paid a lot of attention to this detail. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 14, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
Here's a shot from last night with the tail end buttoned up. With the push bar on it gives me room to bring the lower tail back further. That'll be a little later though. Right now it's just getting it running and drivable. Then the fine tuning starts.  :-D Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: johnneilson on February 14, 2012, 01:18:22 PM
Wayno,

How big is that chute tube (dia)?
It look kind of like the rear of mine.

John


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on February 14, 2012, 02:32:06 PM
John, it's 6" diameter. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on February 14, 2012, 03:07:13 PM
This has been a long time coming - Thanks for posting, Wayno.

Before this year is out, I think I'll have a bookmark on every build here . . .


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on February 14, 2012, 03:13:34 PM
Wayno, I also know you have been working on this for a long time. Can you give some of us newer guys a bit of the backstory? How you got involved with Jack. The story about the tank/molds and how this car came to be?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on February 14, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
Wayno, I also know you have been working on this for a long time. Can you give some of us newer guys a bit of the backstory? How you got involved with Jack. The story about the tank/molds and how this car came to be?

Hey Trent, we're only just tickling his belly yet...if we try to flip him onto the bank this early we might lose him.. :wink:



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: mctim64 on February 14, 2012, 03:56:37 PM
One more. Wayno


Nice!  :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 04, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
It runs.  :-o Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 04, 2012, 12:16:27 PM
It runs.  :-o Wayno
That's a plus - A push truck will only get you going so fast!   :-D
 :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on March 04, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Where is the you tube with sound --- :? don't be selfish and keep it all to yourself :evil:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on March 04, 2012, 04:01:10 PM
It runs.  :-o Wayno

So, um, Wayno, are we gonna have get the digital info via smoke signal from Salina or are you going to carve into onto a stick with some binary whittlin' and get someone to ride it out?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 04, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
Time spent learning how to make movies is time spent away from making this heap work. That being said, I'll try.  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on March 05, 2012, 03:47:41 AM
That puts a whole new 'twist' on sitting in the car, and making vroom-vroom noises! :evil:

Don't you mean ɯooɹʌ ɯooɹʌ ɯooɹʌ ɯooɹʌ

Did anyone mention that if you wanted to build a tank like Wayno's , you only have to ask and he can supply you a fiberglass tank body
and a couple of frame rails that match the curve of the tank

G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: sailingadventure on March 05, 2012, 04:52:13 AM
Great looking build! What is the length of the tanks you sell?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 05, 2012, 06:30:45 AM
Great looking build! What is the length of the tanks you sell?
!2'8" and 36" diameter. It's a proper P-38. I also have 20" extension panels since you asked about the length. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: sailingadventure on March 05, 2012, 05:44:49 PM
Thanks Wayno, I `m thinking about building  another one and I need more room this time. I`ll contact you later if I decide to do that.
                                                                           Thanks, Jeff


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 07, 2012, 07:04:20 PM
Don't you mean ɯooɹʌ ɯooɹʌ ɯooɹʌ ɯooɹʌ

Okay, I could make a fistfull of "down under" jokes right now, but let me cut to the chase . . .

Grummy, how did you do that?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 09, 2012, 06:19:57 PM
It leaks. Water in cylinders 2 and 3.  :cry: I didn't take any movies of that either.  :roll: More later. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 09, 2012, 08:42:25 PM
Two holes about 3/8" diameter. One in each cylinder about 4 1/2" down the bore. Right now I'm thinking about sleeving them to get through the season. Not sure yet. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on March 14, 2012, 02:58:34 AM
Hey Wayno
Happy Birthday OK
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on March 14, 2012, 04:19:06 AM
You going to sleeve the 2 cylinders or go further Wayno?
Do you know someone that can sonic test the block for you?

If you've struck water in a couple cylinders you got to be a bit suss on the rest of them.

jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 14, 2012, 08:01:51 AM
Thanx Grumm. Somehow I made it to 65 in spite of myself.  :-P Jon, That's what I'm thinking. I have a few blocks stashed away and I'm pulling them out today. I'm going to go over everything carefully before I do something stoopid and costly. The $300 to do a couple of sleeves on a suspect motor could go a long way to boring another block that I'm more comfortable with.  :wink: I bought that motor for the express purpose of not having to build one while I was building the car. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on March 14, 2012, 08:08:51 AM
Happy birthday bud hope yer eatin somethin good to celebrate...... :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on March 14, 2012, 08:48:06 AM
Happy birthday bud hope yer eatin somethin good to celebrate...... :cheers: :cheers:

You mean something like porkchops in a bottle.... P38s come to mind...  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 14, 2012, 09:01:17 AM
Happy birthday bud hope yer eatin somethin good to celebrate...... :cheers: :cheers:

You mean something like porkchops in a bottle.... P38s come to mind...  :cheers:

Maybe porkchops on the plate, but that P38 is lightning in a bottle.  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:

Happy Birthday, Wayno.

I agree with Jon, especially if you've got spare blocks.  It'll be a PITA, but you'll know where it stands when you hit the salt.

The build is too fine to roll with a question mark that big.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on March 14, 2012, 10:12:11 AM
Hunh?  How'd I do that?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on March 14, 2012, 11:00:41 AM
Wayno,Happy Birthday my friend. :cheers:

Wow -- you're that old? :evil:  I'm still a loooooongway from that magic number -- turning 64 in four days.

Happy Birthday, and many (more)  happy returns of the day from both Nancy and me.

Nancy's moved in with Glen?  (Nice job of editing,  Jon).

Happy birthday, Boy Racer!

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 14, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
Is this better?

Wayno, Happy Birthday my friend. :cheers:

Wow -- you're that old? :evil:  I'm still a loooooongway from that magic number -- turning 64 in four days.

Happy Birthday, and many (more)  happy returns of the day from both Nancy and me.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 14, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
Does this mean Glen isn't wishing me a Happy Birthday?  :cry: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on March 14, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Wayno I do and I did and someone edited it. Wish we were a little closer so we could have a beer as well.
Have a great birthday Wayno :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 14, 2012, 12:39:51 PM
Aw c'mon Glen. It's a great day for a $3.60/gallon drive.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on March 14, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Happy Birthday Wayno, wasn't sure if Grum was just taking the Plymouth.

Bummer about the motor if you bought it and wasn't something you had laying about.

You know what's going to happen now, bore = new piston= may as well bump the compression =should tidy up the ports = a bit more cam = if I'm going to turn it harder I should do something with the bottom end and oil system.

Never can get the worms back in once you open it up.


jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Ron Gibson on March 14, 2012, 05:36:45 PM
Happy Birthday Wayno.  You're going to have to hurry to catch me. :cheers:

Ron


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on March 14, 2012, 07:22:16 PM
Happy Bday. Hard to believe I first met you 10 years ago!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on March 14, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Happy birthday, Wayno!

Sorry to hear about the engine!

Planning on come through there on Friday, headed to El Mirage-That going to work for you?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: PeterB on March 14, 2012, 10:16:01 PM
G'day Wayno,

Even though we have never "met", I'd like to join the rest and also wish a Happy Birthday  :cheers:

I've long held an aspiration to build a tank, though with an I6 engine (most likely the 270 cube GMC I have tucked away in the shed). Could you give me an idea of what your 'glass tanks, rails and extension panels (I might need them if I'm going to use an I6 engine) are priced at. I guess the biggest problem would be getting them "downunder"  :roll:

Cheers,

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Kiwi Paul on March 14, 2012, 10:23:25 PM
Really? Not possible you are that Advanced (in age ,that is.... :mrgreen: ...) Happy Birthday!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on March 15, 2012, 08:04:42 AM
. I guess the biggest problem would be getting them "downunder"  :roll:

Cheers,

Pete

Might have some space in a container

Hey Wayno
Don't you have a bunch of motors sitting a shed somewhere
G

G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 15, 2012, 08:27:24 AM
Thanx for the Birthday wishes everyone. I spent the day assessing the motor deal and I'm thinking I'll go with a different block. I've got 3 or 4 canditates sitting here of which I shall inspect thoroughly. The only reason I considered sleeving was the possibility of running in May at El Mirage. Well, that ain't gonna happen with everything else I still have to do on the car and now this. Man, things were sure feeling good when that thing fired last week. That was a real "car activity" instead of just a bunch of parts bolted together in my shed. Looks like Speedweek now.  :cheers: Pete, I'll send you a PM. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 15, 2012, 11:01:06 PM
Well, that ain't gonna happen with everything else I still have to do on the car and now this. Man, things were sure feeling good when that thing fired last week. That was a real "car activity" instead of just a bunch of parts bolted together in my shed. Looks like Speedweek now. 

If it all went according to plan, what fun would that be?

I defy you to find a build diary on these boards where everything went right.

Salvage what you can, go bore out one of those blocks, and run like the devil.

:cheers:

Chris


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 19, 2012, 07:46:15 PM
A good friend has offered to loan me a motor or short block, whichever works out. Don't count me out yet.  8-)  Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on March 19, 2012, 08:58:34 PM
Good news Wayno, the thrash continues with renewed drive?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 20, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
Yeah Jon. And the renewed drive starts with a 1,000 mile drive to pick it up.  :roll: Then the thrash gets going. I've still got a lot to do but  I think I can I think I can I think I can I think I can.  :lol: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 20, 2012, 04:13:16 PM
(http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo58/milwaukeemidget/yodapiechart.jpg)

May the Ford be with you.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 24, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
I picked up the motor and returned home yesterday. I unloaded it today and started assembly.  :lol: I also took it upon myself to check out that lakebed in Western Utah on my trip home. 2 really good miles of very usable dirt plus some runoff if I need it. Lots more solid than El Mirage. It'll be good for testing. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on March 25, 2012, 10:49:30 AM
I picked up the motor and returned home yesterday. I unloaded it today and started assembly.  :lol: I also took it upon myself to check out that lakebed in Western Utah on my trip home. 2 really good miles of very usable dirt plus some runoff if I need it. Lots more solid than El Mirage. It'll be good for testing. Wayno

Wonder if that is the lake I have been spying on maps and online?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Rex Schimmer on March 25, 2012, 02:05:54 PM
Wayno,
No hassle from the BLM is you test on that dry lake?? Or is it a don't ask and see if you can get away with it?

Rex


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 25, 2012, 02:43:23 PM
Wayno,
No hassle from the BLM is you test on that dry lake?? Or is it a don't ask and see if you can get away with it?

Rex
You're the only one who knows about it so if i have any trouble I'm coming to you.  :wink:  :-D Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on March 25, 2012, 06:54:18 PM
The BLM cause no problems on Dry Lake Alvord in Oregon as long as it isn't

advertised as an organized event. It did not require a permit.

Marlo Treit and I were there one weekend and the  ultralighters

and 4 wheelers were having a blast. They even camp overnight.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 25, 2012, 06:59:57 PM
And Wayno, if you need someone to run interference for you, I work for porter.  :wink:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 25, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
Glenn, that's pretty much the way I was seeing it. Chris, all my time and money are going into racing car right now. No beer for you.  :cry: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on March 25, 2012, 09:06:59 PM
Glenn, that's pretty much the way I was seeing it. Chris, all my time and money are going into racing car right now. No beer for you.  :cry: Wayno

Well, hmmm . . . I suppose that means you'll be kinda thirsty by September.  Stop by the pit - I'll introduce you to Single Hive Initiative Mead.



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 25, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
Sounds utterly wonderful.  :lol: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on April 03, 2012, 11:31:15 AM
Hey Wayno,

I'm supposed to tell you some guy is spreading runors about you and your car! :-D

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7627372#post7627372


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 08, 2012, 06:52:37 AM
It runs again.  :-D I borrowed a short block from a friend of mine and hung all of my stuff on it and it's back in the car and running. Woo hoo. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on April 09, 2012, 04:37:17 AM
Good stuff Wayno, now where were you before you struck water?......

Cheers
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on April 09, 2012, 05:18:40 AM
Nice work Wayno, what's next on list?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 09, 2012, 07:21:20 AM
Controls. Throttle, shifter cable. I have to finish tidying up my cockpit. I'm down to just a couple billion little things now.  :lol: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on April 09, 2012, 08:30:41 AM
I'm down to just a couple billion little things now.  :lol: Wayno

Can open - worms everywhere.

All you can do is try to make sure the list gets shorter as you go.

I've taken to hiding my pens.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on April 09, 2012, 04:42:59 PM

I've taken to hiding my pens.

So what do you use to cross stuff off the list?
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on April 09, 2012, 04:56:22 PM
When Elmo finishes a bucket list item on the tank he opens a cold beer and counts the caps at the end of the day.
 :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on April 09, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
When Elmo finishes a bucket list item on the tank he opens a cold beer and counts the caps at the end of the day.
 :cheers:

Well, he's done then, cuz he's out of beer! :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on April 09, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
a case a day is not the end, as the booze laws in Utah suck one must be well stocked


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on April 09, 2012, 05:54:44 PM

I've taken to hiding my pens.

So what do you use to cross stuff off the list?
G

It's an MG - I simply take my finger and stick it in the oil that's accumulated on the garage floor and smear it across the item I'm checking off.

Learned that trick from a Harley builder.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on April 10, 2012, 01:39:00 AM
I understand perfectly
I have had the misfortune of having to work on a BSA that seems to have been dumped in my workshop
I started it on Wednesday and it promptly filled the workshop with smoke. When it stopped, what oil had not come out the exhaust was
now underneath it
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on April 10, 2012, 02:55:29 AM
I understand perfectly
I have had the misfortune of having to work on a BSA that seems to have been dumped in my workshop
I started it on wendsday and it promptly filled the workshop with smoke. When it stopped, what oil had not come out the exhaust was
now underneath it
G

blow-by....is it Darren's?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 10, 2012, 12:02:04 PM
OK. Try this. It's on my dopey facebook page. Wayno
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2953182024649


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Geo on April 10, 2012, 12:10:02 PM
It runs!  It runs!  :cheers:

Way to go Dr Frankenstein  :evil:

Great video, thanks!

Geo


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on April 10, 2012, 12:12:30 PM
Cool!  Gotta like Tammy's comment: "Love the sound ~ but what is it for?"

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on April 10, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
Allright! Fire good. :cheers:

I tried to convince my brother to let me try your rollover test on the hill beside our house. He mumbled something about head injuries.......................


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 10, 2012, 02:56:04 PM
Allright! Fire good. :cheers:

I tried to convince my brother to let me try your rollover test on the hill beside our house. He mumbled something about head injuries.......................
Was he talking about the ones we obviously already have?  :-P Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on April 10, 2012, 04:11:46 PM
First time I've ever wished I did that Facebook thing.

Only 999,999 things left Wayno, got it beat now.

jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on April 10, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
Naw, newly inflicted ones, I was going to make the plywood disks small OD than the cage and do some crash testing  :-D


Allright! Fire good. :cheers:

I tried to convince my brother to let me try your rollover test on the hill beside our house. He mumbled something about head injuries.......................
Was he talking about the ones we obviously already have?  :-P Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 10, 2012, 04:56:02 PM
Silly me. I opted for non-destructive testing. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on April 10, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
Silly me. I opted for non-destructive testing. Wayno

Our powdery shale is soft though! The Yuccas might pose a hazzard?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on April 10, 2012, 05:01:33 PM
right on Wayno,it's the quiet time here but trust me I'll crank the sound later.....


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Buickguy3 on April 12, 2012, 07:53:49 AM
  The smile says it all, Wayno. Way to go, now get back to work.
    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 06, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
Chomp chomp chomp. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on May 06, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
Mmmmmm! Tasty!   :cheers:

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on May 06, 2012, 01:31:19 PM
Wayno, that is going to be sooooooooo nice!  :-D :-D :-D  :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Captthundarr on May 06, 2012, 01:51:06 PM
Very coool Wayno, I want one :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on May 06, 2012, 03:57:26 PM
Chomp chomp chomp. Wayno

Who does the lexan for you? Or do you do it?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 06, 2012, 04:17:51 PM
Very nice Wayno

+1 on Tman's question, do you make the nose screen yourself?

Thanks
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on May 06, 2012, 04:24:27 PM
Marvelous windshield. The reflections from the light tubes are as straight as a string.

Good Job.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on May 06, 2012, 04:56:33 PM
Wayno, you going to the lakes, if so see you there.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 06, 2012, 09:56:25 PM
The windscreen is actually a glycol modified polyethylene terephthalate (PETG). I had it formed by Aircraft Windshield in Los Alamitos, California. It was on their suggestion that I use that material because it has the properties of Lexan with better optical clarity and formability. For the record, they were really good to work with and I'm happy as a clam.  :-D Glenn, the light lines carry right on through on the body. You're right. They're very good. Glen, I'll be at El Mirage. I'm hitching a ride with Buddy and the Fladhead Cad. I have starting line duty Saturday morning and I'll be at the White Goose Bar. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on May 06, 2012, 10:09:41 PM
See you next week!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 06, 2012, 10:28:41 PM
Thanks Wayno.
Iv'e just will started emaling a guy in South Aus about making a canopy, I will see if he can do canopies in PETG.

Thanks
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 07, 2012, 08:15:02 AM
Jon, for the record I supplied them with a male mold for the screen. The mold has to go a couple inches beyond the edge that you want to end up with so you don't have wrinkles in that area. Also the process used is drape forming because it gives better optics than drawing the sheet into a mold. I used a mold that I got from Jack Kelly and carefully blocked it down to 320 grit. Oops. They proceeded to rough it up with 40 grit so the felt wouldn't slide around and bunch up. I had forgotten that part of the process.  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: AHG on May 07, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
Before cockpit construction is complete, you may consider engineering a small holder to house an "A" harmonica
for use while waiting in line. Of course there is always the chance it may not pass technical inspection. Ha

Hopefully we have a date to Boogie again, at the Cook meet.

BR
Drew Gatewood


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 07, 2012, 01:02:34 PM
Absolutely, Drew.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on May 07, 2012, 01:47:42 PM
It's got a beer can holder, what more do you need. :roll:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: wobblywalrus on May 08, 2012, 12:31:12 AM
Wayno, did the SCTA approve the PETG or are you going to show up at tech and convince them it is OK?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 08, 2012, 12:37:35 AM
Thanks Wayno

Not sure if I will get something done here or over there.

First response from the guy I contacted didn't seem that exciting, I will hunt around here a bit more.
I'm still a bit off needing it.

Thanks
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on May 08, 2012, 04:39:40 AM
Thanks Wayno

Not sure if I will get something done here or over there.

First response from the guy I contacted didn't seem that exciting, I will hunt around here a bit more.
I'm still a bit off needing it.

Thanks
jon

Looking good Wayno

 I don't know about Drew's choice of an "A" harmonica though?

Jon
There's a guy near me that does bike screens for just about anything
He might be worth a try
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 08, 2012, 06:02:13 AM
Jon
There's a guy near me that does bike screens for just about anything
He might be worth a try
G
Thanks Grumm
If I could get some contact details would be great.
Do you know what materials he uses?

Thanks
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 08, 2012, 08:44:05 AM
Wayno, did the SCTA approve the PETG or are you going to show up at tech and convince them it is OK?
According to 3.U I'm good to go. To answer your question, yes I will present it at inspection. I see no problem. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on May 08, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
. To answer your question, yes I will present it at inspection. I see no problem. Wayno

With or without the harmonica and cup holder?
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Roseville Carl on May 09, 2012, 03:49:21 PM
Looks good, Wayno! I can't wait to see more!

x2 Wayno........ :cheers:
 
   
 


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 11, 2012, 07:42:15 AM
Here's the screen mounted. It actually went quite well. Oh, I sent off my Speedweek entry yesterday.  :-D Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on May 11, 2012, 08:56:07 AM
Thats nice  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on May 11, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
"Oh, I sent off my Speedweek entry yesterday."

You and 300 others.  Better pray the postmark is right.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 11, 2012, 10:47:04 AM
Well, Wayno -- at least you didn't wait 'til the last minute before sending in your entry.  Mine got to California a few days ago, I think - I hope.  Sent it one day last week.

By the way, I hear that registration so far is about 360 vehicles.  Maybe Stan knows better and will tell us the truth.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on May 11, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
Too early to post a number -- speaking of posting, more than 50% come in around/after the deadline.  Takes a while for the P.O. to get 'em here.  That's why the SCTA is like the IRS, besides taking a lot of your money.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: hitz on May 12, 2012, 12:37:06 AM
Grumm,
Bet that "A" harmonica get's crossed to"E" harp.

hitz


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 12, 2012, 06:02:48 AM
It most certainly does.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 15, 2012, 09:08:41 AM
Got my 'chute latch working. Kinda looks like an 1890 steam engine.  :lol: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 15, 2012, 11:22:57 AM
I just climbed in and closed the hatch for the first time. It's really nice in there.  8-) I can't wait to drive it. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on May 15, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
I just climbed in and closed the hatch for the first time. It's really nice in there.  8-) I can't wait to drive it. Wayno

Admit it, you were making vroom vroom noises!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 15, 2012, 12:04:19 PM
I just climbed in and closed the hatch for the first time. It's really nice in there.  8-) I can't wait to drive it. Wayno

Admit it, you were making vroom vroom noises!
Good grief. I make vroom vroom noises when I'm cooking breakfast.  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 15, 2012, 02:18:56 PM
Latch looks good Wayno

Does your pull cable run through the centre of the spring?

Cheers
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 15, 2012, 02:34:40 PM
Yes it does Jon. And it is stout enough that it should not accidentally deploy.   :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on May 15, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on May 15, 2012, 06:10:50 PM
Looks goos Wayno! :cheers:

I'd kind of like to go to Van Dyne Engineering in  Huntington Beach, Friday morning, to talk with him about a water pump, then head to the lake.

Will this work for you?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on May 15, 2012, 06:18:11 PM
You could leave him at my house.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 15, 2012, 06:33:55 PM
Looks goos Wayno! :cheers:

I'd kind of like to go to Van Dyne Engineering in  Huntington Beach, Friday morning, to talk with him about a water pump, then head to the lake.

Will this work for you?
That'll be fine. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on May 15, 2012, 06:37:54 PM
Good grief. I make vroom vroom noises when I'm cooking breakfast.  :roll: Wayno
[/quote]

If you've never made those noises yr a stiff.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 16, 2012, 02:40:23 AM
Good grief. I make vroom vroom noises when I'm cooking breakfast.  :roll: Wayno

If you've never made those noises yr a stiff.
[/quote]

Never making those noises is as inexcusable as not trying on a tea cosy.



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 16, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
Oddly enough, it's not as easy as it looks.  :-P Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 16, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
I shouldn't have used the flash but you get the idea. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: salt27 on May 16, 2012, 11:43:53 PM
I shouldn't have used the flash but you get the idea. Wayno

Wayno,
Thats one nice view and it will be even better in the morning after leaving impound. :cheers:

  Don


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: wobblywalrus on May 20, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
Wayno, please post your experiences with the PTFE in use, how you clean it, any problems, etc. 


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on May 21, 2012, 12:42:48 AM
Quote from: Jon

Never making those noises is as inexcusable as not trying on a tea cosy.



Is that a snell 2005 Tea cosy?
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 21, 2012, 05:38:27 AM
Quote from: Jon

Never making those noises is as inexcusable as not trying on a tea cosy.



Is that a snell 2005 Tea cosy?
G
Grumm Grumm Grumm..........
Any good tech inspector should know that a tea cosy is NFI I mean SFI rated not Snell.

Sorry Wayno;
Is the canopy in front of the main rollbars?
So to get out you shift your but forward sit upright and the it's straight above you?

Thanks
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 21, 2012, 06:52:03 AM
Jon, when you say canopy, do you mean the hatch? Walrus, I was going to give Aircraft Windshield a call to freshen up on "care and feeding" of my screen. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 21, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
Yes Wayno.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 21, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
OK Jon. There are 2 roll bars over my head and another forward of the hatch. Actually, the hatch opening is a few inches in front of the roll bar so I can grab it to exit.. Does that help?  :-D Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Vergil on May 21, 2012, 09:42:24 PM
Great build thread Wayno, was a pleasure visiting with you Sat at El Mirage. Took your advise and joined the forum, looks like it will be a great place to learn.

Vergil


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 21, 2012, 09:53:08 PM
It was great talking with you and Doug, Vergil. I'm really amazed that our paths hadn't crossed more solidly prior to this. You'll like it here. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on May 22, 2012, 01:05:28 AM
Thanks Wayno

Cheers
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 30, 2012, 03:39:39 PM
I got the hatch built hinged latched and mostly fitted. I just got fully suited (again) to make sure I could exit the car in its' current configuration. I work on the premise that I know nothing and constantly check stuff. Anyway, my biggest concern has always been getting my helmet under the roll hoop to get out. Losing 15 pounds made it a snap. Oh, and the machine shop called to inform me that my block passed magnaflux and pressure test. Yippeee.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 04, 2012, 10:06:42 AM
OK. Since I've made such an effort to isolate the cockpit from the engine compartment, the thought of running a pressurized oil line to run an oil pressure guage into said cockpit leaves me cold. Would I be better off with an electric guage? Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 04, 2012, 11:21:20 AM
OK. Since I've made such an effort to isolate the cockpit from the engine compartment, the thought of running a pressurized oil line to run an oil pressure guage into said cockpit leaves me cold. Would I be better off with an electric guage? Wayno

Good question, hot oil not good. How about a guage in the back for tuning and a pressure sensor with an OH CRAP light up front for you? Pondering these things myself. :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on June 04, 2012, 01:15:42 PM
OK. Since I've made such an effort to isolate the cockpit from the engine compartment, the thought of running a pressurized oil line to run an oil pressure guage into said cockpit leaves me cold. Would I be better off with an electric guage? Wayno

Good question, hot oil not good. How about a guage in the back for tuning and a pressure sensor with an OH CRAP light up front for you? Pondering these things myself. :cheers:

I'm only putting a set of idiot lights up front, for the motor will be red for oil pressure, yellow for coolant temp and "burn your eyes red" for knock, no lights = good.

Simple and you don't need to look.

Cheers
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on June 05, 2012, 04:45:51 AM
OK. Since I've made such an effort to isolate the cockpit from the engine compartment, the thought of running a pressurized oil line to run an oil pressure guage into said cockpit leaves me cold. Would I be better off with an electric guage? Wayno

Just tie a rag around your leg under the gauge. oh , hang on, wrong car. :roll: :roll:

Put a gauge down the back somewhere so you can look at it when you are tuning it. Just a red light in the front for oil with a high pressure (more than 10 psi) switch, and a different color shift light, and a tacho. Doesn't matter where you put the tacho as you will not be able to see it
If you see a red light come on, switch the motor off and turn out, if you see the other color light, change gear.
G :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on June 05, 2012, 05:34:08 AM
OK. Since I've made such an effort to isolate the cockpit from the engine compartment, the thought of running a pressurized oil line to run an oil pressure guage into said cockpit leaves me cold. Would I be better off with an electric guage? Wayno

Just tie a rag around your leg under the gauge. oh , hang on, wrong car. :roll: :roll:

Put a gauge down the back somewhere so you can look at it when you are tuning it. Just a red light in the front for oil with a high pressure (more than 10 psi) switch, and a different color shift light, and a tacho. Doesn't matter where you put the tacho as you will not be able to see it
If you see a red light come on, switch the motor off and turn out, if you see the other color light, change gear.
G :-D

He's couldn't be righterer. Theres a shipload going on at speed and there are two important pieces of info....."change gear" and "turn it off" are the two things you need to know.......my last run in our car demanded most of my available wits to keep it pointed in the right direction, that was likely due to the motor beating itself to death and the flywheel trying to escape but either way the lights didn't come on and I ran a good speed. Now, if I'd had gauges and been watching the oil pressure I definitely wouldn't have run that speed, but we would have had an intact motor. We've built a much better motor for under 4 grand.......Win!

Get idiot lights, the two seconds you spend focusing on a gauge could be lethal.




Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 05, 2012, 06:23:42 AM
Thanx guys. With any luck I'm smart enough for idiot lights.  :-P Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 05, 2012, 11:08:09 AM
Thanx guys. With any luck I'm smart enough for idiot lights.  :-P Wayno

Take pictures Wayno, the rest of us are copying you! :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 05, 2012, 12:10:16 PM
Goggles sed "Get idiot lights, the two seconds you spend focusing on a gauge could be lethal."
My attention span isn't nearly that long.  :roll: Wayno




Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on June 05, 2012, 12:28:54 PM
If you position those lights vertically on top of the dash so they reflect on the windshield, you'll have a "Heads-Up" display so you won't even have to take your eyes off the track.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Captthundarr on June 05, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
If you attach the wires to the jewels there would be 0 delay in reacting to the signal. :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on June 05, 2012, 12:39:44 PM
If you attach the wires to the jewels there would be 0 delay in reacting to the signal. :-D

That tends to cause the throttle to be jammed full open, though.  :-P


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 05, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
OUCH! :-o


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Captthundarr on June 05, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
If you attach the wires to the jewels there would be 0 delay in reacting to the signal. :-D

That tends to cause the throttle to be jammed full open, though.  :-P

True Dat. We are to the point on Amy's car that the lights are getting put on during our down time so that all she has to look at is the big tach, big speedo (She'still working on her licensing) and the track.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on June 05, 2012, 02:18:40 PM
Not sure if your running or interested in a knock sensor Wayno.
Detonation is the surest way to kill a motor IMHO and with a bit happening, the motor behind me with tanks and stuff between it and my ears I want something visual.

This is what I've bought for mine; http://www.viatrack.ca/ (http://www.viatrack.ca/)

I haven't used it so cannot say if it is reliable or not, I was also given the schematics to build one by the guy I bought my dyno off.

jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 05, 2012, 03:27:50 PM
Knock? Is that what your crew does on the canopy after you fell sleep waiting for the course to clear!?

And yes, I can fall asleep anywhere at will :wink:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 05, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
Thanx Jon. I'll keep that one in mind.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on June 05, 2012, 04:48:14 PM
Knock? Is that what your crew does on the canopy after you fell sleep waiting for the course to clear!?

And yes, I can fall asleep anywhere at will :wink:

Been there...borderline narcoleptic....."Stew?...STEW!"....."huh?,....mmmmmmmmmmmmmm yeah, I'm with ya".....you're going flat out dawn til dusk, nowhere to sit down, you get in the car....quiet, kind of comfortable, you don't need to hold your head up...tick tick zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 05, 2012, 05:38:26 PM
Don't hate me but I'm trying to get my air conditioner (cooler) built for the car by Speedweek.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on June 05, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
Hate you?.....like someone else said recently on the forum....." I've learned that while I have everything set up it's smart to make two"....

Can I have mine in red?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 05, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
Need AC here, pushing 100 today!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on June 05, 2012, 07:15:33 PM
quit whining, that's normal here. :-o


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 05, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
quit whining, that's normal here. :-o

Can be here as well, followed by 40 degree days!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on June 14, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
Elmo -- pm sent.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 16, 2012, 08:49:58 AM
I just spent 10 minutes wet sanding the canopy section of the body. Yum.  8-) I'll take pictures later.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 16, 2012, 08:12:43 PM
As promised, here's a picture. It's starting to act like I thought it would.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on June 17, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Is there a designated area for dragon fly impact?

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 17, 2012, 12:42:30 PM
Freud, that I shall ponder.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on June 17, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
Little T was sitting here admiring your tank. His 5 year old gearhead eyes told him that your car was cool and looked like one of his hotwheels.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: cusvet on June 20, 2012, 11:26:32 AM
Hey Wayno, My name is Mike and i bought one of your tanks W/the extensions about 4yrs ago. Your build looks great!!! Do you actually have the side rails that conform to the shell that you could sell me so i could get my butt in gear and start this long diserved project? I always stop by on the Salt to say hi and see how things are a goin! Are you considering any room inside the tank for added weight (lead ballast) to keep her planted on the Salt ?I would love to see your tank this year!!  Mike :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 20, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
Mike, if you have a way to get them home from Speedweek I'll bring you some.  :cheers: Good to hear from you. Yes, my Tank will be at Speedweek. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: cusvet on June 21, 2012, 06:56:57 PM
Wayno, Yes i do have a way to get them back  from Speedweek. That was a great idea. :-D  PM me and let me know what the cost is. Ill send it to ya before ya leave for the salt. Thanks again buddy.Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 22, 2012, 03:43:36 PM
I'm starting to think I like this heap.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dynoroom on June 22, 2012, 03:48:28 PM
Pretty neat Wayno.

Some of them old bath tubs with lids went dang fast too.       :-o

Paging the Markly Brothers............. Bones,............. Charley,............      8-)


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Captthundarr on June 22, 2012, 04:16:51 PM
Well, my next project "was" going to be a modified sports spitfire. I think I' going to get tanked. looks good Wayno. :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: DND on June 22, 2012, 04:29:42 PM
Yes Sir those guys went fast !!!  i was there in 63' when he went ' 289 ' with that small hemi 255 cid i think.

This was before the fairing etc just the 6-71 and 4 port hilborn with the oval grey scoop, a real race car looking good in the nice yellow paint job.

Not sure how much faster a tank has gone since, also his was stock length too.

When he stuck it in top gear he lit up the rear's and i will never forget hearing it freewheel, wow was that cool !!

Like the rear shot of your tank too , what color will you paint it?

Don the tank fan


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: cusvet on June 22, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
Wayno, Did you stretch your tank at all?  It dosent look like you did. So are you semi comfortable in the tank when its buttoned up? I was wondering if there was enough room without a stretch? I will be almost prone also in mine. I guess it just depends on what you use as drive train,water tank ect.  The rear shot of your car looks great!! Whats the record in your class?  Cant wait to see it.. Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 22, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
Don, it's already blue.  :-D Mike, yes it's stretched roughly 20". It is really comfortable. We'll get you in it at Speedweek.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Vergil on June 22, 2012, 10:52:19 PM
I'm impressed Wayno ... looks great .....

Vergil


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Roseville Carl on June 24, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
Wayno it looks great! Hope it performs as you expect it to this year too bad I won't be able to make it this year but sometime in the future I would like to meet ya face to face.................... :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: wobblywalrus on June 25, 2012, 11:47:06 PM
Wayno, did you need to sand out any mold or other marks on your new PETG windshield?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 26, 2012, 05:33:20 AM
Wayno, did you need to sand out any mold or other marks on your new PETG windshield?
Absolutely not. They lay felt over the mold when they form it. All I had to do was trim and drill it.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 27, 2012, 10:42:55 AM
I got the numbers done on one side.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Vergil on June 27, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
404 is a great number. It was one of the original area codes established in 1947, and originally covered the entire state of Georgia. Now if you know someone in Georgia tell them you were thinking of them. The numbers look great btw.

Vergil



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on June 27, 2012, 10:27:37 PM
Good work, another Little Feat , tick. :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on June 28, 2012, 10:21:02 AM
I think it might relate to an Iskendarian cam grind.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 28, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
I think it might relate to an Iskendarian cam grind.
Which I do not have.  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: rgn on June 28, 2012, 09:51:55 PM
I got the numbers done on one side.  :cheers: Wayno

It looks great!  Hope those numbers get blow off.   :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on August 20, 2012, 06:59:18 AM
Wayno,

It was good to see you and the car on the salt! The car looked great!

When I talked to you, you were over 120 mph on your runs. What did you end up with for a top speed?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: rgn on August 20, 2012, 07:20:04 AM
I meant blown... :roll:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on August 20, 2012, 08:45:30 AM
Nice looking tank, had the opportunity to look at it one morning before our daily thrash... I think the only pictures I took all week were the sunrise on Friday  :-D
Great workmanship, beautiful job Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 20, 2012, 09:11:54 AM
I meant blown... :roll:

Actually Ralph I noticed you put "blow" and I thought "gee, he sounds just like a good ol boy" , from Preston ,  :cheers:

I hung with Wayno , Gus and crew for a fair bit of time during the week, rode in the push car, buttoned up the body and helped a little round the pit, picked him up on the return road., met his great daughter Brook and her husband ....I got a few runs on the GoPro which can be edited into something reasonable..
Then we went and stayed in Salina for two nights and did a bit of a tour around the valley, I ate steak for breakfast the first day then we had Wayno's well known apricot smoked steak for dinner, we had a great time , yet again, there
Good on ya brother you've done really well, can you , er send me some squash( running joke people :wink: :roll:)


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on August 20, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
Wayno, that smile was bigger than ever! :cheers: Nice to chat with you.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 20, 2012, 02:58:38 PM
Final speed was 137 with a mostly stock 59A Flathead. 274 inches, Max 1 cam and no porting. It had a self imposed 4,000 rpm rev limiter.  :roll: I had gobs o' fun.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 20, 2012, 02:59:34 PM
One more. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on August 20, 2012, 04:44:56 PM
Did you center punch a dragon fly?

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 20, 2012, 05:03:23 PM
Did you center punch a dragon fly?

FREUD
Durn tootin'.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on August 20, 2012, 07:50:52 PM
When I stopped by wayno's house in May, I was impressed with the workmanship on the car-until I sat in it!

Man, I was then blown away-it has more room for the driver, and is more comfortable than my coupe!

Kudos, Wayno! :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on August 21, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
Final speed was 137 with a mostly stock 59A Flathead. 274 inches, Max 1 cam and no porting. It had a self imposed 4,000 rpm rev limiter.  :roll: I had gobs o' fun.  :cheers: Wayno

and squash
 :cheers: :cheers:
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Roseville Carl on August 26, 2012, 12:51:56 PM
Congratulations on a job well done Wayno!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Have 3 for me!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Vergil on August 26, 2012, 09:46:33 PM
Wayno, thimbs up on a job well done, great pictures and congrats....

Vergil


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 26, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
Anyone who owns a GoPro will know what this shot is about.....it's three guys sayin'..."is it on?......I dunno, what does that flashing red light mean?"

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z187/fourdoorshitbox/GOPR3703.jpg)

I had a great time with Wayno, Brooke and particularly Gus.....



....like, hey , one of my friends dad was on the Goldenrod crew..................

PS: by my calcs you made 1/2mph per cube, not bad for a squash farmer.......and btw get those lyrics to me, you can be Hal and I'll be Burt. :wink: :wink:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Moxnix on August 26, 2012, 11:12:15 PM
Wayno, I'm tired of driving I-80.  May I come through Salinas on my way to St. George?  Is your lash-up hard to find?  I'll pay not to put squash in my car before I leave.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 26, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
Bugs-eye view of the 404

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z187/fourdoorshitbox/IMAG0169.jpg)

at the return road with the Rodge crew.........

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z187/fourdoorshitbox/IMAG0258.jpg)

Max, do it, even if you have to pull over a mile or so out of Salina to tear the car down and check it for errant marrow.......make sure you shout Wayno breakfast at Mum's Cafe (est.1876).

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z187/fourdoorshitbox/IMAG0363.jpg)

 It was good to meet you there on the salt even if you weren't feelin the best........


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Moxnix on August 26, 2012, 11:49:22 PM
It was a 24 hour bug of some kind, allowing me to sleep through the day's webcast along with everyone else out in listeining land.

My wife called tonight, asking when I'd be home.  I told her the 12th, 12th of Neveruary, that is.  Just kidding.  I have some stops to make on the way to Interstate 40, which runs right through Webster Groves.  I'll get home eventually, but there is a bike chassis to look at in Tulsa.

Played HQ Rear Window earlier today. 



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 27, 2012, 04:10:19 AM
Wayno, I'm tired of driving I-80.  May I come through Salinas on my way to St. George?  Is your lash-up hard to find?  I'll pay not to put squash in my car before I leave.
Max, PM sent.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on August 28, 2012, 10:45:19 PM

Played HQ Rear Window earlier today. 


DJ MAX!

Taking requests?

Ted's An Old Biker


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Moxnix on August 28, 2012, 11:04:45 PM
MM, seems music is not my forte this time, what with the announcing team here.  However, I'll try to remember to start with it in the a.m., but definitely toss it in the juke box if the course shuts down for a clean up or something.  I'm out of lager, no one comes to visit 'cept Grumm who I learned is the bike guy in the crowd, so a few lies and Dodge lies eminate from my grizzled pie hole.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: deucemac on August 30, 2012, 03:01:19 AM
I was able to spend a short time in Wayno's pit and experience his joy at how his tank performed.  He was the perfect picture of a happy man.  Had a smile wider than the Grand canyon and as giddy as a 10 year old with a new pony!  Congrats my friend, you may not have been the fastest man on the salt this year but I challenge anyone to find a more pleased or happy one!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on August 30, 2012, 05:17:11 AM
Congratulations Wayno, you've got to be happy with that.

Everything work the way you wanted?
The obvious question; what now?......

Congratulations
jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 30, 2012, 06:55:40 AM
Jon, I'm building a motor right now. This Speedweek was about sorting the car out, which went well. Now it's time to turn up the wick. It went straight as a string with very little steering input. The shifter went out of adjustment and we did a little modification on it. I had to change a head gasket (which I knew about beforehand). Unfortunately, I forgot to bring a replacement.  :roll: Before I knew it a set was offered to me from the Pierce Boys out of Indiana. Darn guys wouldn't accept anything for them. Thanx guys.  :cheers: McCain and Houtz came through too. All in all it was a great week. Everyone at the White Goose Bar was super as usual. It was good seeing you, Doug. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: anthony young on August 30, 2012, 06:29:55 PM
very nice car, it looks right.   anthony young #54 c/frmr :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 30, 2012, 07:43:57 PM
Thanx Anthony. Coming from you that means a lot. Wayno (Just another MILER.)


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: cusvet on August 31, 2012, 09:23:01 AM
Wayno, I am so glad you are happy with your build and how it performed. I so wanted to be there but as they say" Life happens" and i just couldnt make it. It sounded like a wonderful time!! Cheers  :cheers:  Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on August 31, 2012, 10:13:19 AM
Can you replace your avatar with one that has a larger smile?

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on August 31, 2012, 10:24:35 AM
major thunderstorm in Southern Utah right now.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on August 31, 2012, 10:43:24 AM
I'm guessing that as long as it's not over the salt that might be a good thing.

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Moxnix on August 31, 2012, 01:22:27 PM
Had breakfast with our tank driving friend at Mom's Cafe in Salinas, an omelet the size of home plate.  And a tour of the Rodge Mahal.  Thanks for your time, Wayne, you are one creative guy.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 06, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
OK, motor is built and in the car. I'm buttoning it up right now. We'll load tomorrow and it's off to El Mirage Thursday. If it runs as good as it sounds I'm gonna get all happied up.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on November 06, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
Heres hoping for great results.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Frankie7799 on November 06, 2012, 03:29:56 PM
Very cool Wayno! Safe travels and hope to see you this weekend


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on November 06, 2012, 04:31:35 PM
Excellent work! Looking forward to the results.........good to hear you've got the real motor in the car......and if you're eatin at Mom's I'll have a number 1.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jon on November 06, 2012, 05:17:06 PM
Good luck and have fun Wayno.

Jon


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on November 06, 2012, 07:48:26 PM
Hope for a dragon fly.

That would make the event legitimate.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on November 06, 2012, 08:51:19 PM
I called Wayno this afternoon - I think he's more pumped about this event then he was Bonneville.

Make that flatty sing!

 :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on November 12, 2012, 09:10:29 AM
Wayno,

Found this pic on another board, about El Mirage this past weekend.

And a video:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoVkuxAduPY&feature=player_embedded


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on November 12, 2012, 11:34:51 AM
Wayno......was it too cold for a dragon fly?

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SGOtten on November 14, 2012, 09:22:05 PM
Wayno,

Congratulations!

So glad you were able to finish your engine in time to run #404 at El Mirage.

Iíve watched and listened to the video that 38flattie posted over and over. Canít wait to hear it in person

Now that you have all the horses hooked up and pointed in the same direction all you need to do is figure out exactly how much to feed them, give íem a little kick, and hold on!

Steve


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: cusvet on December 01, 2012, 10:44:13 AM
Wayno, Do you know what the drag coefficient is on your car or a like type Fiberglass tank?? I am now starting mine and trying to decide  on a few things of which way to go. Im trying to make it as slippery as possible. I noticed on your car you ran the front axle under the car rather than through the body. Does that help the areo under the body? Or is that what you had so you used it? Thanks,Mike Fuller :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on December 01, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Mike, that axle location offered nothing in the way of reduced drag.  :roll: There will be further streamlining as I go along. This is just the starting point. I have nothing in the way of CD numbers. Maybe one of the grown ups around here do.  :-D Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jack Gifford on December 02, 2012, 12:26:56 AM
The only time I've seen mention of such a drag coefficient was in a chart of "representative" values, ranging from .08 (Auto Union Special) to 1.13 (barn door/flat plate). Belly tankers were around .9, if I remember right.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on December 02, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
The tank probably has good aero numbers, it those darn wheels and axles you hang on them that screw all that up.

It's a Lakester thing...  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on March 13, 2013, 08:00:17 AM
Hey Wayno
what are you up to on your birthday
Oh, and happy brithday
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on March 13, 2013, 08:44:58 AM
Wow, you got older today Wayno  :? Congrats, survived for another one...
Happy Birthday  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on March 13, 2013, 09:50:15 AM
Wayno, Happy Birthday :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 13, 2013, 10:13:54 AM
Thanx Grumm. Unless you other guys are at Grumm's house you're jumping the gun.  :roll: Today is actually my last day of being 65. Except for the pain, 66 sounds a lot older than it feels. I'm still a goofy little kid inside.  :-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on March 13, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
Thanx Grumm. Unless you other guys are at Grumm's house you're jumping the gun.  :roll: Today is actually my last day of being 65. Except for the pain, 66 sounds a lot older than it feels. I'm still a goofy little kid inside.  :-) Wayno

Happy Bday.................yer a goofy kid on the outside as well! :-D :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 13, 2013, 11:48:51 AM
Happy anniversary of your birth -- whether that day is today or tomorrow, Wayno.  So tell me -- how's the year #65?  I turn 65 this coming Sunday and would like some idea of what I'll need to know to successfully navigate yet another annum. :roll:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 13, 2013, 11:53:22 AM
Happy anniversary of your birth -- whether that day is today or tomorrow, Wayno.  So tell me -- how's the year #65?  I turn 65 this coming Sunday and would like some idea of what I'll need to know to successfully navigate yet another annum. :roll:
Jon, all I can say is "Go for it". As you know it was during this previous year that I finally got the Tank to the Salt and El Mirage for that matter.  :wink: Simply stated, I'm having the time of my life.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Ron Gibson on March 13, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Happy Birthday, Wayno
At my age, birthdays are just another day times 365. As long as I feel good, so far, I'm good to go. :-) :-)

Ron


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on March 13, 2013, 02:08:38 PM
Hear hear. Happy Birthday and God Bless. :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Frankie7799 on March 13, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Happy Birthday Wayno!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Buickguy3 on March 13, 2013, 04:06:59 PM
  Wayne and Jon, Happy birthday. Having them sure beats the alternative.
    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on March 13, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
Happy birthday Boy Racer  :lol:

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on March 14, 2013, 03:20:06 PM
Wayno, I made a dragon fly B'Day card for you but before I could mail it, it flew away.

It got hit by an early Ford, stuck to the horn cover and went down the road.

At least I remembered you.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on March 14, 2013, 03:28:13 PM
Wayno, I made a dragon fly B'Day card for you but before I could mail it, it flew away.

It got hit by an early Ford, stuck to the horn cover and went down the road.

At least I remembered you.

FREUD

What was the last thing that went through that dragon flys mind?........................................ His a.s.s. :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on March 14, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
FeRd... I thought you were in Hawaii... step away from the computer and enjoy the hula girls.  :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: dw230 on March 14, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
Joanie and I wish you the best Wayno.

Bring drinks!

DW


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on March 14, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
Right now I am looking or a fix for the ding in my rental car that some lizard inflicted and left unannounced.

Kepner tells me over and over.........take the da_ned insurance ya dunderhead.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 23, 2013, 05:58:23 PM
Yesterday I took the Tank for a test drive. I sorted out the problem I had at the November El Mirage meet of no high gear in my C-4. Turned out to be a linkage thing. I swapped the gears in my quickchange to bring the ratio waaaaaaay down so I could make a low speed pass and still get into 3rd. Everything went off without a hitch.  :-D As it stands I think I'm just going to get ready for Speedweek. I'd like to run El Mirage but at 6 mpg in Gus's truck the way they have gas prices these days I think I'll put the money in the car.  :roll: I'll still go but in a more economical vehicle. I'm relieved a bout the trans.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on April 23, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
Good to hear, Wayno! :cheers:

See you in a couple of months....


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Buickguy3 on April 23, 2013, 09:14:11 PM
  Wayne,
  No sense saving it for your kids. Just go for it. Bounce a check to the undertaker. Elmo is waiting for you.
    Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on April 23, 2013, 10:09:40 PM
Test drive.

 :-P

Do you realize how lucky you are to have access to a space big enough to test drive a bellytank?

So how did it pull?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on April 24, 2013, 12:28:20 AM
Test drive?.....
bloody luxury....you guys need to get yer trucks onto lpg like here......then again, you don't know what expensive gas is.


Good to hear it's all OK.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on August 18, 2013, 03:52:09 AM
So. What news Wayno?
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: barrybill on August 18, 2013, 04:07:52 PM
Hey Wayno I thought I would give you a break at WOS we won't be bringing the yellow Stude down this year. Sorry I missed you at Speedweek. Barry [lefty]  Studebasher


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 14, 2014, 11:19:02 PM
I've been working. I've been working with my mouth shut. I'll update more tomorrow. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Sumner on April 14, 2014, 11:22:38 PM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=45983;image)

Wow is that pretty  :cheers: :cheers:,

Sum


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on April 15, 2014, 12:09:03 AM
My, my, my!  You're well beyond the "boy racer" of yore.

Some days I regret moving away from the flathead V8.

Any ways, Mikee likes!

 :cheers:  :cheers:

Mikee


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on April 15, 2014, 03:13:42 AM
Oh my Giddy Aunt!
That's very nice
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Buickguy3 on April 15, 2014, 08:39:47 AM
   Wayne, Where's the "like" button on here?
  Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Frankie7799 on April 15, 2014, 08:40:09 AM
Wayno that set up is sweet!  :-)


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on April 15, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
That looks so frickn' cool, I don't even care if it works.

I want the number of your casting house.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on April 15, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
 We all know you build nice $hit Mate & there's the proof. Now you need to relocate the exhaust ports to take full advantage of it. :-)
What class does a Flathead EFI run in?
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 15, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
Same. I'm in Special Construction, not a vintage body class. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 38flattie on April 15, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
Wayno, did you cast that? It looks like a piece of art!

I hope you made a couple of extras........


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 15, 2014, 07:15:20 PM
Buddy, I helped Ray (Flat32) cast it. More were cast.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on April 16, 2014, 03:45:29 AM
I don't even have one of those motors and I want one
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on April 16, 2014, 07:07:34 AM
Cross-flow fuelie flathead.  8-)

Stromberg?  What's a Stromberg?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: lsrjunkie on April 16, 2014, 08:35:09 AM
Man 'o' man Wayno... That sir, is one trick piece! I'm beyond impressed!  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on April 16, 2014, 10:09:05 AM
SWEEET !!!!!!!!!!!!

willing to share the transition profiles above, at and below the crossing point between banks  :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on April 18, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
Nice wayno! Did Mursick see this?!?!?!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: desotoman on April 18, 2014, 10:39:17 PM

(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=45983;image)

Sweet.

Tom G.



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on April 19, 2014, 05:04:30 PM
Subaru Wayno, looks like you are getting serious  :-D  Nice looking piece


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: dw230 on April 20, 2014, 05:48:51 PM
Me likey  :-D

DW


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on April 21, 2014, 04:38:04 PM
Subaru Wayno, looks like you are getting serious  :-D  Nice looking piece

Yep, Serious, that's the word I was looking for
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on April 26, 2014, 09:01:26 AM
Any more progress?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 26, 2014, 06:19:21 PM
I've got the plenum close to finished. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 26, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
Trent, remember that scoop you liked so much?  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on April 26, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
Trent, remember that scoop you liked so much?  :roll: Wayno

sacrifices have to be made! :cry: :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on April 26, 2014, 10:24:13 PM
That's a great looking car. :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on August 29, 2014, 09:52:55 PM
So - Wayno -

Time to post up some pics.

We're a week out, and only those of us who have actually laid eyes on the tank have any idea where you're at.

It's share time!

Chris  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 30, 2014, 01:08:30 AM
So - Wayno -

Time to post up some pics.

We're a week out, and only those of us who have actually laid eyes on the tank have any idea where you're at.

It's share time!

Chris  :cheers:

O-o-o-o-o-ok :wink:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 30, 2014, 07:17:45 PM
Wiring is happening.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on August 30, 2014, 07:23:42 PM
I thought I had a worm can.

But when it comes to wiring, I'd always rather start from scratch than try to make something out of something else.

I'm thinking you'll need to be fitted for a hat in a few weeks!

 :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on August 30, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
Wiring is happening.  8-) Wayno

All white wire? You'll regret that!  :-D

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on August 30, 2014, 10:05:08 PM
Yea, you coulda used yellow...  :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on August 30, 2014, 11:27:47 PM
Our B52's used all white wires but they had numbers printed on them so you could tell what was on them and where they went.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Freud on August 31, 2014, 12:54:42 AM
Wayno is building a B-52................................. with wheels.

FREUD


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on August 31, 2014, 01:38:22 AM
It may not be a B-52, but it's certainly the bomb!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 31, 2014, 02:02:03 AM
SR-71. But , who's counting? That's what the wiring is like.  :wink:  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on August 31, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
I wanted to comment on the aviation spec wiring but electrical is my weakness
and you guys know your stuff.

Now all the remarks. :cheers: :cheers: :-D :-D

I could have posted way more images on my build but didn't. Now you know why.

The friends really look after you here. : :wink:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on August 31, 2014, 01:25:31 PM
Is that the first electric belly tank?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on August 31, 2014, 01:51:24 PM
Yea, you coulda used yellow...  :-D
I pm'd you, gimmee a call, you do have a phone?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 31, 2014, 03:53:20 PM
We just put power to the chassis and a number of systems and there is no smoke.  :lol:  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on August 31, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
Modern automotive electronics is SO much fun!   :cheers:

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on August 31, 2014, 04:43:44 PM
We just put power to the chassis and a number of systems and there is no smoke.  :lol:  :cheers: Wayno

I de-lucasized the Midget, but I can bring some from the MGB, if you'd like . . .


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Glen on August 31, 2014, 07:05:09 PM
He is color blind and the salt hides the white wires anyway.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on August 31, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
Yea, you coulda used yellow...  :-D
I pm'd you, gimmee a call, you do have a phone?

Hey Doc G.... turn on the phone... it says there is no voicemail set up
I need to talk to Jon to figure out our plan... I think it includes you  8-)


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on September 01, 2014, 04:39:41 AM
Yea, you coulda used yellow...  :-D
I pm'd you, gimmee a call, you do have a phone?

Hey Doc G.... turn on the phone... it says there is no voicemail set up
I need to talk to Jon to figure out our plan... I think it includes you  8-)

There's a plan?

G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: salt27 on September 06, 2014, 01:55:37 PM
Yea, you coulda used yellow...  :-D
I pm'd you, gimmee a call, you do have a phone?

Hey Doc G.... turn on the phone... it says there is no voicemail set up
I need to talk to Jon to figure out our plan... I think it includes you  8-)

There's a plan?

G

Notice they didn't say a good plan just a "plan".   :roll:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on September 06, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
It's either that or a bad and ugly one. Bob, that was just what I had in mind......


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on October 21, 2014, 03:16:34 PM
Fast forward to last night and the tank's on my dyno.  It's almost too big to use which is a common Milers problem BTW.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on October 21, 2014, 04:31:36 PM
Don't they have Dyno's in Utah?
Or was Wayno just driving past
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on October 21, 2014, 05:11:59 PM
You know Wayne -- he was just showing it off at El Mirage this weekend.  Showing a better way to do things that Henry never thought of.  I even sat in it.  Comfy, but a tank is not on my horizon.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on October 21, 2014, 05:57:32 PM
Comfy

Indeed - I was given the opportunity to recline in it in 2013.

I almost took a nap . . .

 (http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo58/milwaukeemidget/Bonneville%202013/414_zpsee81a52f.jpg) (http://s361.photobucket.com/user/milwaukeemidget/media/Bonneville%202013/414_zpsee81a52f.jpg.html)

LeBron James could fit in this thing.

So the wiring must be working - unless Wayno just decided to test fit the car on the dyno.

I don't think that's likely.

So if the wiring is working, it stands to reason that the engine is running.

I think that's likely.

And if the engine is running, and the car is on the dyno, it stands to reason that the car made some pulls.

That, too, I think was likely.

And if the car made some pulls, it stands to reason that there were some horsepower numbers generated.

Given Nate's professionalism, I doubt there was trouble recording data, so once again, I think it's likely some numbers have been generated.

And therefore, it stands to reason that we'd love to know what those numbers were . . .  :wink:

But given Wayno's cunning smile and secretive ways, will we see those numbers?

Not likely.  :wink:

 :cheers:

Lookin' fantastic, Wayno!



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dynoroom on October 21, 2014, 06:40:12 PM
Wayne visited with me on the starting line at El Mirage as we were getting ready to make a pass Sunday morning. He indeed said that "Most" of the wiring  was complete. So with the picture of it on the dyno speaks well for him getting the final bits needed to see how the tuneup is.
Best of luck Wayne. Good to see you.  8-)



Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Tman on October 21, 2014, 09:04:42 PM
Wayno is getting serious/er


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on October 31, 2014, 07:06:24 PM
OK. Now it runs. Now, thanx to everyone at the White Goose Bar and Nate, too and AEM we move forward. I am a very happy man.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on October 31, 2014, 07:22:57 PM
OK. Now it runs. Now, thanx to everyone at the White Goose Bar and Nate, too and AEM we move forward. I am a very happy man.  :cheers: Wayno

Was there ever any doubt?

And the numbers are . . .  :roll:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on October 31, 2014, 10:38:44 PM
Are??????????? :roll:     Patience on thee, little man.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 01, 2014, 09:06:51 AM
Whoa.  Wayno, the air in Salina must have finally got to you.  Chris a "little man"?  What were you thinking when you typed that?

Unh, on second thought, -- I don't want to know any more about the subject.  TMI, you know. . . :evil:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on November 01, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
OK. Now it runs. Now, thanx to everyone at the White Goose Bar and Nate, too and AEM we move forward. I am a very happy man.  :cheers: Wayno

Was there ever any doubt?

And the numbers are . . .  :roll:

There's always a doubt when you're doing something like a custom adaptation of an engine management system onto a vintage engine. This isn't a sbc where you just drop on some parts, connect up the wiring harness and start making dyno pulls. I know a lot of people think EFI means it just turns on and tunes itself but that's far from reality.   Without getting into details, this is going to be one of my more challenging tuning experiences and my focus is getting a good, safe basic tune in as few pulls as possible as a starting point that can then be dialed in on the track. 

I'll let you guys know how it goes this weekend but I wouldn't expect to see any significant hp numbers as I'm not tuning this thing pull after pull after pull to wring out every last bit of power that it can make.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 01, 2014, 12:49:30 PM
That approach fits right in with my thinking.  :wink: Sparkplug Gary (Whom did the not only beautiful but well engineered wiring job) is scheduled to assist Nate with the dyno pulls tomorrow. I understand Mang and Per are going with him. Thanx everyone.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on November 01, 2014, 01:14:57 PM
Nate, I saw Gary's work on the tank in September, the evolution of the rest of the build, Wayno's ubercustom trick F1 style manifold, and then I saw it was in your hands.

Nate, I remain doubtless.  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on November 01, 2014, 06:47:33 PM
Thanks Chris.   :wink: 


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 11, 2014, 07:40:21 AM
On Sunday I was pulling hard in third at about the mile when it shut off. According to data I was doing 135 at that time. I am encouraged because this is only the second pass on the new setup and I had a throttle stop set at 80%. By the way, I drove down last Monday because vacuum sucked the top of the plenum in on the dyno last Sunday. I effected the repairs and made it to the races. I'm home but whipped. When I say whipped, I just mean tired. I assure you, I ain't whipped. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on November 11, 2014, 08:15:32 AM
On Sunday I was pulling hard in third at about the mile when it shut off. According to data I was doing 135 at that time. I am encouraged because this is only the second pass on the new setup and I had a throttle stop set at 80%. By the way, I drove down last Monday because vacuum sucked the top of the plenum in on the dyno last Sunday. I effected the repairs and made it to the races. I'm home but whipped. When I say whipped, I just mean tired. I assure you, I ain't whipped. Wayno

The one thing that bothers me about your sucking in the top of the plenum is that there must have been some restriction in the intake path to cause such a high vacuum. Have you looked into what caused the vacuum? Too small or too restrictive air cleaners are often the cause. There's definitely some horsepower hidden there.

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 11, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
Pete, that would have been because the throttle body was closed. It is on the plenum and the first thing the air sees. There are no butterflies or anything after that. The air has a clear path to the valve. The failure was due to a problem with my building. I used aluminum pop rivets in a structural area. I forgot that aluminum pop rivets are merely decorative trim.  :roll: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 11, 2014, 03:03:32 PM
While I have your attention I'd like to point out that this week couldn't have happened without the help of Ray Federowicz, John Romero, Sparkplug Gary, Steve Otten, Nate Stewart, Mike Manghelli, Rick Yacoucci, Doug Robinson and Gus. They were all there when the chips were down. I owe 'em big.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on November 11, 2014, 04:54:13 PM
Pete, that would have been because the throttle body was closed. It is on the plenum and the first thing the air sees. There are no butterflies or anything after that. The air has a clear path to the valve. The failure was due to a problem with my building. I used aluminum pop rivets in a structural area. I forgot that aluminum pop rivets are merely decorative trim.  :roll: Wayno

You're right Wayno, aluminum "Pop" rivets are well named. All of us get caught out on that sort of thing once in a while. Most of us don't make the mistake the second time. It's called experience!  :-D :-D :-D

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: lsrjunkie on November 11, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Glad to hear you made it Wayno! Hopefully you got some good info, and the old girl will really scream come next year!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on November 11, 2014, 05:30:49 PM
Pete, that would have been because the throttle body was closed. It is on the plenum and the first thing the air sees. There are no butterflies or anything after that. The air has a clear path to the valve. The failure was due to a problem with my building. I used aluminum pop rivets in a structural area. I forgot that aluminum pop rivets are merely decorative trim.  :roll: Wayno

Elmo;

Try using AVEX rivets. They are far better than common Pop rivets but use the same tool to install them. Reasonable price from Aircraft Spruce.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dr Goggles on November 11, 2014, 06:13:24 PM
On Sunday I was pulling hard in third at about the mile when it shut off. According to data I was doing 135 at that time. I am encouraged because this is only the second pass on the new setup and I had a throttle stop set at 80%. By the way, I drove down last Monday because vacuum sucked the top of the plenum in on the dyno last Sunday. I effected the repairs and made it to the races. I'm home but whipped. When I say whipped, I just mean tired. I assure you, I ain't whipped. Wayno

http://stuffnobodycaresabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Cover-Whipped-Cream-and-Other-Delights.jpg

Hehehe, haw haw haw , hi Wayno, cherry anyone? :wink:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 11, 2014, 06:26:16 PM
Kind Doctor, sir.  Perhaps you'll explain to those of us north of you -- just what Herb Alpert's album cover has to do with Wayno's car.  I think I might still have that album. . .

Just yesterday I received the two new pieces of hardware for the 'puter.  One will hold 35mm slides for digitalising (my word) for the cormputer, and the other is a turntable so I can put the dozens, nay hundreds, of records into the machine here.  Just think:  I'll soon be able to listen to the Mystic Moods Orchestra and Benny Goodman's Carnegie Hall concert featuring the long version of "Sing, song, sing".  My complete collection of Jefferson Airplane and some Andy Warhol and "Power Tools" by I don't remember.  I searched and the machine came up with Ronald Shannon Jackson as the force behind the band, but I saw that it was a one and only album - and there was no song on it that I recognised.  I guess, therefore, it's time for me to submit this post.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on November 11, 2014, 06:34:32 PM
Jon, I know the cold weather slows thinking.... Wayno was a little whipped.... if you need more help, ask Nancy


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 11, 2014, 06:41:23 PM
Fortunately for us, the weather isn't cold during this snowy storm.  It's now evening -- and the temp has plummeted all the way down to 27F.  The problem with that is the snow is so wet and sticky that it clogs the output chute of the snow thrower repeatedly when I'm throwing the snow.  Frequently like three or four times with the little 'thrower - and again a few times with the bigger machine.  At least it didn't clog when I was using the BIG snow thrower -- the one that's 66" wide and powered by a 56 hp turbo diesel.  That one worked okay - 'cept that one leg of the electric control cable is farkled and so I couldn't re-aim or re-deflect the output.  Poo!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 11, 2014, 07:02:26 PM
Hey Stainless. Get off Slim's back.  :x He doesn't need any old cold weather to slow his brain down.  :wink: I got your back, Jon.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on November 11, 2014, 08:44:43 PM
Yep... I see what you mean  :roll:
 :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 12, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
Neil, I'll look into those rivets though I doubt I'll be using them in this instance. It's time for something more substantial. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on November 12, 2014, 03:54:44 PM
Neil, I'll look into those rivets though I doubt I'll be using them in this instance. It's time for something more substantial. Wayno

Wayno;

The 1/8" dia AVEX rivets have a shear strength of 165 lbs and a tensile strength of 230 lbs. The 3/16" dia ones are 1090 lbs and 715 lbs. I doubt if either of those would fail.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 12, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
Neil, I'm not questioning the rivet strength. I'm talking about maybe going to a heftier housing.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 14, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
Upon further review, I was going 140 when it shut off. That's even better.  :-)  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on November 16, 2014, 01:44:51 PM
And that was only what, 3/4 down the track? That's pretty alright for a second shake down run on a new EFI system.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 16, 2014, 02:40:39 PM
That's pretty much what I'm thinking, Nathan. Not to mention the 80% throttle stop. Right at the last I was picking up 10 mph every 3 seconds and just coming in to my designed power band. Potential seems to be there.  :wink: I think I'm going to really enjoy this AEM Infinity.  I've already learned a lot. :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on November 17, 2014, 01:17:36 AM
I see someone's been studying their data logs.  :wink:  hard to imagine how we ever got by without all that data.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on December 12, 2014, 10:23:25 PM
Here are a couple of posters Gus made up for me. I like them both very much. What do you think?  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Sumner on December 12, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=49336;image)

Very nice, I like the B&W one best.  The plane is a nice touch but remember you can only have one engine so make sure the ones on the plane or non-functioning  :evil:

Sum


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on December 12, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
Here are a couple of posters Gus made up for me. I like them both very much. What do you think?  8-) Wayno

I think I'd like to order one for my office.  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on December 14, 2014, 12:13:08 AM
Yea, I think in sepia tone and then photo tint in the yellow squares on the checker board....and the little elmo on the front...
Photoshop can be a wonderful thing... With enough time it could even make Wayno look good  :evil:  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on December 14, 2014, 08:54:12 AM
Stainless, first, that ain't Elmo on the front. It's the "White Goose Bar" logo. Second, it'd take more than Photoshop to make me look good.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: PorkPie on December 14, 2014, 10:27:08 AM
Yeap,

B&W can be nice.....


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: PorkPie on December 14, 2014, 11:38:03 AM
....and nicer..... :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on December 14, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
Nicely done, Pork Pie!  :cheers:

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Sumner on December 14, 2014, 01:26:31 PM
Nicely done, Pork Pie!  :cheers:

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=49346;image)

Yep  :cheers: :cheers:, but bet he could go faster if he wiped that silly grin off his face  :evil: :evil:,

Sum


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Buickguy3 on December 14, 2014, 02:58:37 PM
  Pork Pie, I recognize that picture.
     Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on December 23, 2014, 01:08:58 PM
Hilarious.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on January 30, 2015, 08:10:27 PM
Here's my new 1/8 scale P-38 Tank. Gee. After only 30 years of trying to do this I finally got it right.  :-D Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Sumner on February 01, 2015, 07:56:55 AM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=49861;image)

Here's my new 1/8 scale P-38 Tank. Gee. After only 30 years of trying to do this I finally got it right.  :-D Wayno

Wayno I don't think you are going to get those fasteners past tech  8-) 8-) 8-) :-o :evil:,

Sum

P.S.  Looks nice  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on February 02, 2015, 06:05:47 AM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=49861;image)

Here's my new 1/8 scale P-38 Tank. Gee. After only 30 years of trying to do this I finally got it right.  :-D Wayno

Wayno I don't think you are going to get those fasteners past tech  8-) 8-) 8-) :-o :evil:,

Sum

P.S.  Looks nice  :cheers:

Should be OK if you lockwire
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on February 02, 2015, 06:48:18 AM
What about "DUCK" tape????. :evil: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: manta22 on February 02, 2015, 09:30:48 PM
Now you've done it, Mike! You've revived the age- old argument of whether it's "duck" tape or "duct" tape.   :-D

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on February 02, 2015, 09:35:41 PM
As we all know it depends on how you are using it....  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on February 02, 2015, 09:44:01 PM
I figure with the bird in Pork Pie's photo we could call it "duck"
tape for once. :lol:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on February 02, 2015, 10:39:35 PM
Of course it's Duck Tape! 

(https://tw-projects.s3.amazonaws.com/twduckbrand/prod/images/products/7db0670e17c02b36b871d5c74a67971599e36472.jpg)

http://www.duckbrand.com/ (http://www.duckbrand.com/)   :cheers:

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on February 02, 2015, 11:04:10 PM
 :cheers: :-D :-D :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: No13 on March 09, 2015, 07:27:11 PM
What a good read, the whole post.  Thanks for sharing.


Another, not far from you, in Utah.

Kelly Wood & Salvage I.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on March 11, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
Here's the 1/8 scale Tank with wheels.  8-) Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Emil Shuffhausen on March 11, 2015, 05:06:06 PM
Where did you get a 1/8 scale tank? I'd love to get one of those. Let me know if you need any 1/8 scale parts. I have lots of kits and spares.

Lee


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on March 11, 2015, 05:23:16 PM
I'm betting he made it.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: No13 on March 11, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
Way cool.  Might have to build me a model of mine when I get it done.

Kelly


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: NathanStewart on April 09, 2015, 03:18:36 PM
Wayno, did you ever get to look at your logs?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on April 09, 2015, 05:44:16 PM
I'm getting closer, Nathan.  :roll: Now if I can get my printer to print the pages of instructions so I can take them out to the shop........Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 17, 2015, 06:37:07 AM
OK. I finally got in a couple of decent passes at El Mirage so now I will have some data to build on. I ran 134 on Saturday and 136 on Sunday. Sunday's run was plagued by a miss and when we pulled the plugs there was oil on 3 of them. Rather than hurt the motor I pulled the plug. I figure I got what I needed so I'll get it sorted for Speed Week. I drove home happy.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on June 17, 2015, 07:29:36 AM
Oiling plugs?   :|

Glad you got the runs in, brother.  Salt Shakedown next month?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 17, 2015, 07:39:43 AM
Nope. Just getting ready for Speedweek.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on June 17, 2015, 08:22:43 AM
I'm pulling for you Wayno. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 17, 2015, 09:53:44 AM
Wayno, if it leaks down ok, pull the inkake & see if it's coming around the intake gasket.
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 17, 2015, 10:42:10 AM
No leakdown yet. I just got it off the trailer yesterday. Leakdown is next.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on June 17, 2015, 01:09:27 PM
fingers crossed!!!!!


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on June 17, 2015, 09:17:18 PM
What are you running for rings?

Mark and I were talking last night about mapping EFI and ignition from scratch, which is what you're doing.

He mentioned that if you "rattle" the engine a little lean or with too much timing during dial in, with iron rings, you're more likely to break them.

Are all the oiled plugs on the same bank?

I'm hoping Sid is right.

 


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on June 17, 2015, 09:32:18 PM
Synthetic oil?  if so, did you run it in with regular oil first? 
Just stabbin' in the dark while you figure out what's going on.  :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 18, 2015, 11:08:11 AM
Mark, I am in a position to put some heat into it at this point and so shall. And thanx everyone. it is helpful.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 18, 2015, 02:04:06 PM
Checking it cold is good enough to tell you "If" there's a problem & where it is without running it & possibly doing more damage.
And hurry the hell up Mate, we're obviously all hanging on the edge of our seat's here! :evil: :-D
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: wobblywalrus on June 18, 2015, 11:43:05 PM
It is a good idea to look at the bores with a borescope before you run the engine.  Marks in the glaze over the hone marks on the cylinder walls will show you if rings are broken.  Sometimes, if you are lucky and catch the problem early, it is possible to replace the broken parts and to hone the bores.   


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 20, 2015, 08:57:31 AM
OK. I bought a dopey Harbor Freight leakdown tester. The instructions make no sense and neither do the numbers. That being said, I checked all the cylinders the same way and they all acted the same. Compression check showed 140 accross the board with the exception of the one (as it turns out, there is just one) oil cylinder which is 160. I think I'll pull that cylinder head and have a look.  :| Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stan Back on June 20, 2015, 09:21:12 AM
I borrowed my buddy's SnapOn leak tester for years.  Finally got embarrassed and bought the HF piece of shitt.  The instructions made no sense and neither did the numbers.  Back to borrowing again.  I don't feel too bad -- he's driving the car.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on June 20, 2015, 09:39:23 AM
I would expect if it is not a ring problem that the oiled cylinder would have better compression... oil is a good seal... back in my tractor mechanic days that is how we sorted leaking valves from bad rings... add oil and check again.  So does that thing have valve seals?  Been a long time since I looked at the trailing edge of technology underhead valve engines.
 :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 20, 2015, 09:45:15 AM
It has seals on the intakes. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on June 20, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
It has seals on the intakes. Wayno

Well sounds like 7 of them do...  :|


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: RichFox on June 20, 2015, 12:54:28 PM
i think I see some difficulty in following those instructions.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on June 20, 2015, 12:57:15 PM
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10881.0;attach=45983;image)

Rocker cover?

Mike


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on June 20, 2015, 01:01:46 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, my engineering consultant . . .  :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 20, 2015, 01:08:02 PM
i think I see some difficulty in following those instructions.
Rich, I have trouble following any instructions. These should prove particularly difficult.  :roll:  :-P Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Ron Gibson on June 20, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
 :-D No BOX. From MM's thread. :cheers:

Ron


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 20, 2015, 02:29:58 PM
Like I said earlier, take a look at the intake port for oil trace. Some of us knew it was a flathead. :evil: Not having a big enough breather might be a problem or you could have a pan windage issue. A bad oil ring won't show up on a compression test either.
Work out how the oil is getting there, either down the port or up the bore.
  Sid.
  


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PM
I've pretty much decided to pull the head and the intake. I want to run the valves anyway. They're really not bad to pull in the car.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Jack Gifford on June 21, 2015, 12:32:49 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, my engineering consultant . . .  :-D
Did that just happen? :evil:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on June 21, 2015, 02:02:27 PM
I'm going to cut him a little slack on this one - he's met so many folks here in the last two years with so many different projects that it's tough to keep 'em straight without a score card.

When I was about 18, two of my high school buddies, John and Tim, were working on one of John's van.  I pulled in and asked Tim if he could do me a favor and check the coolant level on my car.

He spent about 5 minutes on that Corvair . . .  :evil:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Stainless1 on June 21, 2015, 07:50:28 PM
Following FB's advice... Pull the valve cover (intake manifold) and check the seal for damage
Dodge underhead valve motors have different terminology for the same thing  :roll: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 22, 2015, 06:50:27 AM
It's all good Mark.  :wink: It is incumbent upon me to weed through "suggestions" for viability before doing any disassembly.  :-) Not only do I not have rocker covers, I don't have any rockers to cover. I woke up in the middle of the night to this revellation; The seals on the intakes on a Flathead Ford are on the body of the guide, not on the valve stem. So, "to the question "Do I have valve seals?" Not so much. The plot thickens. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 22, 2015, 11:50:24 AM
Stan, don't give up on the leakdown tester. It actually works, it's the instructions that are incorrect. I went to the HF site and read reviews of the tester and the proper procedure was outlined. My readings (cold) are pretty much in line with each other with the offending cylinder dead center on the values.  :-) I'll continue but I want to establish as many baseline values as I can. I'm learning. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 24, 2015, 03:39:46 PM
Mark, the leakdown readings (cold) were all fairly close in the 12% range. I'm waiting for some other things to happen before I can tear it down. It shouldn't be long. I did snake a tie wrap through the sparkplug hole on the offending cylinder and it came back with oil on the tip. OK. Not much information but it all adds up. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: saltracer1 on June 24, 2015, 04:27:32 PM
a wag is that it's sucking oil though a leak in the intake.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Dynoroom on June 24, 2015, 04:50:12 PM
Just more cannon fodder for you Wayno.

Since you have individual coils are you sure the plug is firing? If the spark plug is not firing it would allow oil in the cylinder but still keep leak down readings normal. Just a thought, should be easy to check before tearing stuff down.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 24, 2015, 05:19:31 PM
I have to pull the intake to adjust the valves so I'll keep my eyes peeled for evidence. I'll look into the coil too. Thanx guys.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: wobblywalrus on June 25, 2015, 11:26:21 PM
Is the oil ring on the piston?  Us older guys sometime forget stuff.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 26, 2015, 06:34:52 AM
Yes. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on June 26, 2015, 08:41:33 AM
have you started digging for oil yet  :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on June 26, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
That should be later today. I had some other issues to sort and that happened last night.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: salt27 on June 29, 2015, 10:03:18 PM
Wayno, your killing us.   :?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 30, 2015, 10:24:43 AM
Wayno, your killing us.   :?
LOL. :-D  :evil:  :dhorse:
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: PorkPie on June 30, 2015, 11:05:03 AM
That should be later today. I had some other issues to sort and that happened last night.  :cheers: Wayno


.....and the winner is.... :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 03, 2015, 10:12:01 AM
Progress. I pulled the head on the offending side and everything looked fine. I pulled the intake manifold and gave a cursory inspection and saw nothing wrong. No misplaced ( :wink:) oil or anything. Waitaminit. The intake valve is veeeery far from the lifter. Turns out the adjustable lifter had taken it upon itself to re- adjust itself to .117" instead of a more comfortable .012". I'll look to see if this caused any damage and go on from there. Next year maybe these adjustables will be gone. I'd like that. At least it's not pure mystery any more.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: fredvance on July 03, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
That is a good thing :-D


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 03, 2015, 10:33:41 AM
It's a wonder you didn't hear that clattering! Check the lifter & the lobe for damage.
So we're assuming the wet plug is dead cylinder fuel? :?
You might have to start running the valves during a meet until you know they're staying put.
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 03, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
Sid, all of the above.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 03, 2015, 11:48:05 AM
See you at the TnT Mate.
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 03, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
I thought you might show up.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: grumm441 on July 03, 2015, 09:57:03 PM
It's a pity those heads in your "parts room" are only plastic
G


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: kiwi belly tank on July 03, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
I thought you might show up.  :cheers: Wayno

Not bringing the liner, just got the O/D's from B&J a couple of weeks ago. Going to help Steve with the big banana.
  Sid.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 04, 2015, 02:54:17 PM
OK. It looks like I got away with it. Everything looks, feels and measures bichin.  :-D I'll rig the adjuster so it won't take off and just do what it feels like.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 04, 2015, 05:32:07 PM
Mark, there are no locknuts. I have considered that addition, though. When the parts store opens I'll have a look.  :wink: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 05, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
The parts store had no locknuts so I made one on my mill (12" Harbor Freight Disk Sander).  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: ronnieroadster on July 05, 2015, 04:52:06 PM
 Hi Wayno
   I always use locktite on the lifter adjuster threads I find that works perfectly even in our extreme environment on these all out racing flatheads. Even with a set of lifters that's already been run in oil and still in the block I just hit the treads with brake cleaner and set a drop on the lifter body the locktite still holds well. For extremely loose adjusters the green stuff will keep them in adjustment.
  For my flathead I check the valve adjustment after three good runs. That is if and when the speed gods allow three good runs in a row!  :-)
 Ron


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 05, 2015, 05:22:38 PM
Thanx Ronnie. It is noted. Are you coming to Speedweek? Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: ronnieroadster on July 05, 2015, 07:44:31 PM
Yes Wayno I'm heading to Speed Week its time for me to get some salt on the race car tires and get my rookie runs in. My to do list is getting shorter each day but it seems there's still lots to do. Big project at the moment is to finish assembling the engine the internal parts from the engine I tested with this year are going into a fresh crack free 8BA block.Well its crack free until it runs at least.
 The must bring list is rather large with a 2400 mile journey ahead of us I want to be sure I have enough stuff to keep running and not leave anything behind. There's a group of us heading out so my support team will be large enough to help deal with whatever. My crew chief is my son without his help this would not take place and my wife is also coming with her support she makes this all happen. My wife gave the car its name the Mistress   :-)


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on July 05, 2015, 08:23:06 PM
Cool. I'm looking forward to seeing your car and meeting up with you.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Guardrail on July 23, 2015, 02:54:03 PM
Hey Wayno,
 Since I'm gnu hear and a slow reader (ask Stan), I've finally read through this post. Knee-Toe.


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on October 26, 2015, 06:55:27 AM
After Speed Week got cancelled, Pork Pie had some spare time on his hands. He used it to good advantage and stopped by the RODGE MAHAL. While here, he gave me some pointers on my streamlining efforts for the race car. While I made adjustments he designed a scoop and made a cardboard example. In the past few weeks I made the inner ducting and am now building the outer piece. I'm looking forward to testing them at El Mirage in a few weeks.  :cheers: Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on October 26, 2015, 06:57:32 AM
Here is the inner ducting and support. Wayno


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: tauruck on October 26, 2015, 09:48:54 AM
Way to guys.

I can see what the finished product will look like.
I know there's a lot of work involved and I wish
you all the best Wayno.

Exciting project for sure. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Peter Jack on October 26, 2015, 09:59:07 AM
Wayno, you continue to do nice work.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: SPARKY on October 26, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
Ahhhh  that magic potion BONDOLI

HMMMMmmm  that looks it just is begging to become a knock off!!!

where is the eng air intke in relation to the fore and aft of the scoop?  any internal ducting or turning vanes?


Title: Re: Utah Belly Tank
Post by: Elmo Rodge on October 26, 2015, 01:26:04 PM
Bill, the throttle body is 18" from the inlet opening. The internal ducting is the one picture I posted. No turning vanes. Wayno