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Title: any news from today's race?
Post by: V8Pinto on July 16, 2011, 12:40:07 PM
Just sittin here on the West Coast wishin I was on the East Coast.

How fast?  Who's racing?  Anything that has the words MPH in it will be read.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: tedgram on July 16, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
 Spoken like a fellow speed addict that couldn't be there.  :-D I would say they are running for a couple of more hours.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: geh458 on July 16, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
There are pictures, and I suspect results will appear shortly in this thread:  http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,9991.0/topicseen.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,9991.0/topicseen.html)

Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: greenjunk on July 16, 2011, 04:02:36 PM
I'm hearing of epic CF on the starting line with 6hour+ waits.  175+ entries.  Charles V has run a 185pass on a shake down, a fast bike motor is hurt
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: N.F.S. on July 16, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
I just got back from there.Don't no what speed anybody ran because the jumbo-tron thing didn't work and there no pa system at the starting line. :-(

Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: greenjunk on July 16, 2011, 07:25:52 PM
just got word lawson went 210!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Stan Back on July 16, 2011, 08:30:10 PM
Now if we knew what or who a Lawson was, we could get excited, too.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 16, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
Lawson Bilhardt is the guys that's mentioned in the current Hot Rod magazine that donated a whole bunch of old race photos.  The magazine has a couple of pages this month.

He drives a Ford Thunderbird Super Coupe at Maxton and Bonneville.  Yet another of the good guys from ECTA.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: gofast on July 16, 2011, 08:46:54 PM
There is a huge crowd here. There has been slow downs on the track and a strong head wind.
The daurenhiem bigalow lakester went 240. Pam's charger went 199.666.
Gustafson corvette went 183. Ron San giovanni's belly tank blew some oil on the manafold and caught fire. I'm not sure of other times.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: wheelrdealer on July 16, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
I hope the speeds are fast...sitting here in the shop with the #2100 still going together for speedweek. Today I wish I had left the car alone and made the Loring event.

For everyone at Loring...go fast and have fun!

Bill
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: redhotracing on July 16, 2011, 10:51:22 PM
Good for Lawson, no... GREAT for Lawson. He's the guy who drives to Maxton from Penndrell(sp?), PA
every meet, helps get the track ready, offers anyone in sight a cold beer at the end of the day, etc. A
genuinely nice guy in every way.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: N.F.S. on July 17, 2011, 04:59:17 PM
Up date on Charles Venable,he ran a 188 and 187 today.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Frank06 on July 17, 2011, 05:35:38 PM
It was so windy at long shutdown on Saturday that the pop-up tent got blown away even when held down by two guys!  Everyone did a great job dealing with the wind.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: N.F.S. on July 17, 2011, 05:52:04 PM
The wind pick up again this today but not as bad as yesterday.Whenn Bill ran his rocord run it was cloudy and vary little wind if any.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: gas pumper on July 17, 2011, 06:54:46 PM
I just got back. We spent the day saturday in staging twice with the T-bird guys. Youse are right, the nicest people you will ever meet.

The 608 went 240 on the shakedown run. The second run the timers didn't work. SO no time. But that's OK.  We are real happy with the test and did not run today. Packed up and left 6AM.  See you all at the Salt.

Frank

Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: greenjunk on July 17, 2011, 07:15:45 PM
I was also told they fixed their starting line issues sunday.  This is great news for the racers.  The wait was supposedly down to a couple hours which is phenominal with 175+ entrants.  Great applause to the volunteers for recognizing a problem and fixing it.   Great job racers for fast safe speeds.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: dw230 on July 17, 2011, 10:52:52 PM
All this and yet not one word about Bill Warner's fabulous 311 speed?

DW
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: half-fast on July 18, 2011, 02:36:53 AM
http://bangordailynews.com/2011/07/17/sports/warner-sets-world-speed-record-at-loring/

Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: redhotracing on July 18, 2011, 08:23:42 AM
All this and yet not one word about Bill Warner's fabulous 311 speed?

DW

There's a separate thread dedicated to that, Dan.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: bearingburner on July 18, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
Starter told me there were 40 runs in the first hour on Sunday . Not to bad for 1 1/2 mile runs.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: tedgram on July 18, 2011, 09:32:19 AM
  40 runs an hour is great! Waiting for the results.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Cajun Kid on July 18, 2011, 06:36:52 PM
I must say when I was drafted to bring the starting line concerns to the race directors Saturday afternoon. They immediately listened and took corrective action. They also ran a few hours longer to get the runs in.. Sunday was flawless.. Congrats to all the LTA staff and volunteer workers. It was my honor to help them and to run there..I will be back.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: roadracer on July 18, 2011, 07:26:26 PM
There were a lot of issues on Saturday.  The wait was long, but it wasn't 6 hours.  More like 3-3.5.  Concerns and suggestions were brought up Saturday evening and you could see them being addressed on Sunday.  I was able to make 7 passes on Sunday and we stopped early due to the weather.  It must be hard to put on only one event a year.  It takes a day to get back into the swing.  I was not happy Saturday, but was well pleased on Sunday.  I'll be watching for next years plan to handle a large field and still get the competitors the number of runs needed to make the long trip worth it.  I have to say thank you here to all the volunteers who worked so hard, and a big thank you to Paul who never left the starting line either day.  He was there past 7PM on Saturday making sure we got our runs. 
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: blackslax on July 18, 2011, 07:39:30 PM
Starter told me there were 40 runs in the first hour on Sunday . Not to bad for 1 1/2 mile runs.

We averaged about 37 runs per hour the entire weekend.  On sunday we actually ran 7 bikes in 6 minutes down 2 1/2 miles.

I will have more factoids about the weekend coming.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: RidgeRunner on July 18, 2011, 10:11:14 PM
Not taking anything away from the great runs made, but the best news to me was it was a safe meet.   No major incidents, if there was as much as a stubbed toe or skun knuckle I didn't happen to hear about it.  A big thank you to all for your dedication and hard work to make it happen.

Ed
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Jessechop on July 19, 2011, 07:33:53 AM
We got in line when the line started to move Saturday morning and we waited a honest 4 hours, but Sunday things went much better. I liked the mix of the lines, but I would like to suggest several things

#1. Have a person directing cars at the line. I.E. you pull up and they tell you right lane or left lane, that way the lane stays even. One time we pulled up with Jody and she got in one line we got in the other. By the time we ran she was 9 behind us in the oppisite lane (18 runs) because of all of the bike in her lane and the chase vehicles in ours.

#2. Make people stay with there vehicles in staging. There was a lot of congestion because of this. People would be no where around when there vehicles needed to be moved

#3. Dont allow crew members to hold spots in line. I watched one car run and they allready had a dirt bike in line holding there spot. I.E. cars were hot lapping because they had people holding spots in line for them. It made it very unfair to the rest of us.


Anyways just a few suggestions. Had a good, no a great time and we will gladly be back next year. What a fun weekend!!!
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: blackslax on July 19, 2011, 11:04:08 AM
As the race director, I would like to address the comments about the wait on Saturday.
1) With 160 vehicles in line, 40 vehicles per hour is a long wait.  More than most are used to if they have not been to Bonneville.

2) There was a software integration issue that did cause a few very short delays in the morning.  It was explained at the meeting Sunday if drivers were in attendance.  The only way to address the issue Saturday would have been to shut down the system, reload software and restart everything which would have taken about 1 hour. We were all there to race, so it was dealt with manually.

3) The biggest reason for delays Saturday was that we broke a lot of gear.  There were about 20 vehicle that broke, smoked, pulled out, lost power.  When those issues occur, we have to hold the coarse until the cause of the problem is found and the vehicle is removed. If there are fluids present upon inspection of the at long shutdown, we then have to check 2 1/2 miles of racetrack for parts and fluids.  It all takes time, but we have to be safe.

I again would like to thank everyone for there professionalism and understanding.

Tim
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Cajun Kid on July 19, 2011, 11:44:50 AM
Tim you Mark and the entire crew did a great job.. so we had a few issues on Saturday,,, they got fixed, you let us run until about 7pm and made up for the earlier delays,,, what a recovery,, and man Sunday was a blast... I took my time and got in 3 runs and had time for a 4th run but my chute tore on my last run so we packed it in...

Let me know if you need help in inspection again next year.. I will be glad to help again on Friday.

I plan to bring back the E motor to see if it can do 200mph, ,, then change motors for a shot at 225mph..

Charles


Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: 55chevr on July 19, 2011, 12:40:37 PM
CK ... just for the record it was 7:20 ...

On Saturday, Tim Kelly went through all the positions over the radio and asked if they would stay beyond 5 and run the line out. To a person everyone said okay, including the Fire Department. The long shutdown crew had their EZ up blown away by the wind and they were cooked by the sun from about 1 pm. At 5:30 they were requesting relief and Phil Campbell went down there and worked the last 2 hours after teching bikes for 2 days and working earlier in a shutdown spot. The team made it happen.
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: geezer1 on July 19, 2011, 05:26:08 PM
Tim you Mark and the entire crew did a great job.. so we had a few issues on Saturday,,, they got fixed, you let us run until about 7pm and made up for the earlier delays,,, what a recovery,, and man Sunday was a blast...



X2 from the Geezers - we had a great intro to Loring. Linda just flat made our weekend as we changed drivers, equipment and classes. A huge thank you to her and the timing and records crew. You were all great. We ran safe and went home happy. Dodge those belts were tight!

Hope to see you again.

Geo Turner for Brian Acton and the Geezer Racing Crew
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: saltwheels262 on July 19, 2011, 06:53:48 PM
I was in that line saturday night. myself and everyone in it appreciate it so much for staying so late for us to get those runs in.

thank you lta and all the vols.

what is great meet. things will just get better. the org. Is learning quickly.

franey
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: Cajun Kid on July 19, 2011, 08:03:06 PM
I also want to thank Joe Daly and Tom Daly for jumping in from Bike Tech to working with the starting line crew  Saturday afternoon/evening and all day Sunday.  So many volunteers and even other racers chipped in to help.

This was a great effort by all ...

Charles
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: t russell on July 20, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
Tim your group done great on sunday. As for sat. you  fixed 99.9 % of issues.Thanks to all of you it was a great weekend. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: entropy on July 22, 2011, 12:57:45 AM
Tim,
First of all, you run a 1st class event!
Thanks to you and all your volunteers (especially Joe Daley!) who made it possible.  :cheers:
(why single out Joe Daley???  Because when he showed up at pre-stage, things started to Snap-Crackle-Pop!!!!)
 
Last weekend was my 3rd drive to Loring from Texas, and I plan to do it again in 2012.
I've run at Texas since since its inception Oct 2003, also have done 2 @ Mojave, 3 @ Maxton, 1 @ Miami.
Like LTA, all events strive to minimize grid waits.  

My green Busa was 2nd off the line on Sat at 9:42am, spent a short time at my trailer pulling logs, a few ajustments, ran again at 2:32pm.
I am sure you agree, 4hrs sitting the the hot sun is not acceptable. As you point out there were several reasons for the long wait, some of those can be fixed.  
On Bonneville events: they are 4-7days; 2 day events need shorter grid waits.

This Oct at Mojave Mike Borders is limiting entries to 120 two day + 30 Sun only.
Mike charges more, and thus can "afford" fewer entries.

I respectfully suggest that LTA limit entries and charge more.

Karl Gunter


As the race director, I would like to address the comments about the wait on Saturday.
1) With 160 vehicles in line, 40 vehicles per hour is a long wait.  More than most are used to if they have not been to Bonneville.
2) There was a software integration issue that did cause a few very short delays in the morning.  It was explained at the meeting Sunday if drivers were in attendance.  The only way to address the issue Saturday would have been to shut down the system, reload software and restart everything which would have taken about 1 hour. We were all there to race, so it was dealt with manually.

3) The biggest reason for delays Saturday was that we broke a lot of gear.  There were about 20 vehicle that broke, smoked, pulled out, lost power.  When those issues occur, we have to hold the coarse until the cause of the problem is found and the vehicle is removed. If there are fluids present upon inspection of the at long shutdown, we then have to check 2 1/2 miles of racetrack for parts and fluids.  It all takes time, but we have to be safe.

I again would like to thank everyone for there professionalism and understanding.

Tim

Title: Re: any news from today's race?
Post by: tedgram on July 22, 2011, 08:32:37 AM
 The price was increased from last year. :? The extra hurt I payed in advance and couldn't make it.  If entries increase I would like to see an extra day or two added to the schedule. Like running Friday afternoon  and maybe Monday until noon.