wfojohn
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« on: July 09, 2011, 09:41:56 AM » |
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Can a production class bike have the engine size increased to move into the next production class EVEN IF the manufacturer never produced that size bike. Here is an example, a legal 50cc is overbored and now competes as a 100cc production class bike?
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2011, 05:55:53 PM » |
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On 9-27-08 we lost a great friend and fellow racer, he was the BEST, he helped anyone with anything at anytime. His name is Dave Owen and he will be missed by all that knew him and I am glad to have met him.
Seeing him at Bonneville during 2008 Speedweek was the tops, Dave was in awe of the salt and as usual was there helping out anyone who asked..simply put we lost a great man who will be missed by all.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2011, 07:46:32 AM » |
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Thanks John, that was always my impression. I saw a new 100/2 production record and wondered if it was set with a legal bike or a 50cc Aprilia. Anyone know exactly what model/brand bike set it?
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2011, 10:12:43 PM » |
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Since this is an ECTA question, my guess is it is possible to do it with a 50cc bike, running in the 100 class.
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MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2011, 10:24:37 PM » |
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Since this is an ECTA question, my guess is it is possible to do it with a 50cc bike, running in the 100 class.
Bob, If so what would stop Fred Vance from running in 1350, 1650, 2000, 3000 cc etc in production? If that is Still legal at Maxton then that is sad...  |
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On 9-27-08 we lost a great friend and fellow racer, he was the BEST, he helped anyone with anything at anytime. His name is Dave Owen and he will be missed by all that knew him and I am glad to have met him.
Seeing him at Bonneville during 2008 Speedweek was the tops, Dave was in awe of the salt and as usual was there helping out anyone who asked..simply put we lost a great man who will be missed by all.
J
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2011, 10:46:00 PM » |
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Since this is an ECTA question, my guess is it is possible to do it with a 50cc bike, running in the 100 class.
Bob, If so what would stop Fred Vance from running in 1350, 1650, 2000, 3000 cc etc in production? ... The long drive from Texas...  |
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Stainless
MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 12:25:49 AM » |
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If so disgusting..so you can still run a 50cc PP bike in say a 3000cc PP class..I thought they fixed that?
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On 9-27-08 we lost a great friend and fellow racer, he was the BEST, he helped anyone with anything at anytime. His name is Dave Owen and he will be missed by all that knew him and I am glad to have met him.
Seeing him at Bonneville during 2008 Speedweek was the tops, Dave was in awe of the salt and as usual was there helping out anyone who asked..simply put we lost a great man who will be missed by all.
J
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 05:48:31 AM » |
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Nope. You can't run up in chassis class anymore (no lakesters in streamliner class, etc) and in engine class (no G in BG, etc), but you CAN still run up in displacement class.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 09:11:47 AM » |
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That's why all of those production records are above 200.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 09:20:44 AM » |
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Ransom and I have personal experience with chasing a production record. The 1350/1650/2000 records were all set by the same bike. If he wants to get his green hat, therefor, he's got to either beat the existing number - which I remember as being high - or run in the 3000cc class where the record is still within reach. He and I have traded the 3000 record back and forth - we know what it's like to find a single bike having all three of the records. Further deponent sayeth not.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 09:36:23 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 10:18:02 AM » |
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Go for it.....they don't measure record setters anyway..................
It is all about "personal integrity"..........is that not a wonderfull thing.....sure wish SCTA and BUB
would allow us "personal integrity" would save a lot of work in impound and allow for more celebration and beer time..................
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 10:36:22 AM » |
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Who sez you can't drink beer when tearing down for certification? I sure do.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 10:47:16 AM » |
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OK. folks you heard it here......free beer in SCTA impound......thanks DW.....Love.B.B.
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Nancy -- 201.913 mph record on a production ZX15!
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 12:09:04 PM » |
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Bob, I think you've got the basics of the impound beer down, but it's not in the right order. That is -- Dan will accept all the free beers that are offered to him when he's in impound. Hey, for that matter, I don't remember him turning down a beer when NOT in impound, either.
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