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So the idea came to me today, while I was looking at the dented tank onone of my donor bikes, to do away with the fuel tank on my motorcycle altogether.
Heres my thinking;
I am getting a Lithium battery that can fit under the back cowling, where the tool kit rests. Freeing up a space where the regular battery is. In addition to that space, I will be removing the air boxes, which resides infront of the battery. This will give me an area (approx)7"x8"x 8". And I thought it would be a good spot for a fuel cell. It would also allow me to get real low...., as well as being lighter. 2-3 liters is enough for me to make 2-3 runs I figure.
Having looked at what I can find with google, there is next to nothing in the parameters listed above.
Can I have my local welding guru fab one up for me? Or are there certification (documentation) issues. I figure so long its not dripping/leaking/pressure tested, all should be good right?
Secondly,
I know that the rules state that the battery MUST be secured with a steel strap. Would Stainless steel cable ties be considered a strap?
Cheers
Alan
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 08:02:18 AM » |
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gas tanks can be constructed and used for racing... I have made several for the bike to aid rider position. Any welder can build a leak free one from stainless or aluminum. Be sure you have enough.
My opinion, No stainless tie wraps do not meet the requirement, you need to secure your battery.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 08:14:41 AM » |
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Fuel cell? With H2 for fuel? Unh, ask Ohio State and Rick Byrnes and others that have run high-pressure flammable/explosive gaseous fuel - about the extra issues you'll encounter because of that high pressure fuel tank. Great idea, and certainly worth exploring - but it'll probably take some (lots?) extra effort to get it approved and running. Go for it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 08:59:11 AM » |
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Uh,Slim I beleive Vish is refering the fuel cells (tanks) that the race cars use. Plastic w/foam in them.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 11:22:52 AM » |
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Be sure you have enough.
Do you mean enough gas? where would I start sourcing all the alu hardware? I am planning on running at Mojave, so its a short run, not a long course event for me. Thanks |
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 07:42:19 PM » |
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Oh. Sorry for the mis-guided guess. Now that I see the "other" meaning of fuel cell -- oh, yeah, I remember now. . .  |
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 11:01:33 PM » |
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That's Slim, Thinking waaaaayyyyy out side the box or cell as it were.  . Vish, 1/8th to 1/4" aluminum plate should serfice to start with. check speedway motors for weld in bungs for the "fuel" gas cap. be sure to vent the tank with a roll over check valve for safety. just some places to start.hope it helps. |
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 07:05:08 AM » |
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I know that the rules state that the battery MUST be secured with a steel strap. Would Stainless steel cable ties be considered a strap?
Cheers
Alan
Alan Not metal cable ties and not hose clamps G |
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 08:05:01 PM » |
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Don't know for sure why, but my fabricated, flat panel, aluminum tank cracked in a few places (last year). I was told to rubber mount it (done, done, & did). I found that the little A/C line mounts (used on the hard lines from the condensor on many Japanese cars) work really well. They have a 6mm stud on each end, like a miniature motor mount. Get 'em at the Pick-A-Part....use nylock nuts just fine.
Regards, JimL
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