To N2O or Not on my "E" Motor

[Cajun Kid]

My motor man and me had a long talk and he said for Bonneville we should be OK N/A on Gas.. but I would really like to make the 200 Club at Maxton and think I need a power adder ?  For Loring, I feel I can get 200 on just gas.

Just thinking out loud for now,,, not used N2O in 20 years,,, and when I did I had explosive results !!!!

Charles

[Stainless1]

Have a chat with Charles Nearbergs mechanic.... he used a little N20 to go over 4, said he had about 65 seconds worth on board. 

I held the button for 58... of course that was after thousands of dollars worth of experience...   

LSR aint drag racing...

[Jonny Hotnuts]

The problem I see is people consider nitrous to be a cheap alternative for more HP. It certainly is easy to run a tube to the intake and connect a solenoid and call it good. Fact is that if you are going to use it, the motor should be built with the same attention to detail ($) as a blower motor. I see people take a motor designed to run gas and put a big of a shot of spray without spending the needed cash to do it right often ending with catastrophic results. (*not saying this is what you did RS)

I fully believe that if a motor is built with the intent that spray is used, with the technology available today with progressive contorlers, computer controled wet systems and data logging you can safely make as much HP with spray as a blown counterpart. 

.....but it wont be any cheaper in the end.

~JH


~JH

[Stainless1]

I held the button for 58... of course that was after thousands of dollars worth of experience...   

LSR aint drag racing...

All, I can save you a lot of cash... don't listen to the companies that made N20 equipment 15 years ago...

The problem I see is people consider nitrous to be a cheap alternative for more HP. It certainly is easy to run a tube to the intake and connect a solenoid and call it good. Fact is that if you are going to use it, the motor should be built with the same attention to detail ($) as a blower motor...

I fully believe that if a motor is built with the intent that spray is used, with the technology available today with progressive contorlers, computer controled wet systems and data logging you can safely make as much HP with spray as a blown counterpart. 

~JH

If you read the past posts on N20 you will see a resounding theme... test ... test ... test
Know what you are putting in your motor and how you are putting it in there. 
If you are going to push for a minute, know the solenoids you are using won't freeze open, that kills the motor after the successful run...
Weigh everything you are putting in, you will go through a lot of N20, test in a small room, maybe it will make the cost happier to bear.... 
Oh, and if you have a cylinder starting to lose compression a little at a time, check the distance to the piston, the seal is not going away, the rod is....    A Carrillo will bend until if won't fit between the counterweights on the crank... 

My motor man and me had a long talk and he said for Bonneville we should be OK N/A on Gas.. but I would really like to make the 200 Club at Maxton and think I need a power adder ?  For Loring, I feel I can get 200 on just gas.

Just thinking out loud for now,,, not used N2O in 20 years,,, and when I did I had explosive results !!!!

Charles

Yep technology has come a long way in 20 years.... but you still have to put up with N20 if you are going to use it

[krusty]

Charles - When the Loose Screw boys set the E/CGAlt and E/CFAlt records, they ran on gas to 212.886 and fuel (gas + N20) to 219.909. That's a gain of 7 mph with spray.  If their gain is representative of a 550 hp (on gas) E engine, do you think your car can only run 193 on gas in the mile? Could be a fairly expensive quest for a 200 mph time slip. Myself, I'd KNOW that i couldn't do it on gas before I'd  be spraying ( and then paying the for the rebuild). But then, I'm a frugal SOB.  YMMV   vic

[Cajun Kid]

Vic,  I am going to play with the gearing and tune some more... I feel darn confident that I can go 200mph at Loring and Bonneville,,,, but not sure the little "E" on gas can get up to speed that fast in just a Mile at Maxton.

I will have all next year to try.

See ya soon....

Charles

[wobblywalrus]

Charles, a friend that I meet every year at B'ville uses nitrous with good results on his Buell.  He is an old guy and he is not in a hurry.  He started out using very little nitrous.  He figured out the metering hardware, etc with this very small dose.  The next year he would use just a little bit more.  The next year, he would use a tiny bit more than before.  During all of this he kept a watch on the engine to make sure everything was OK.  Patience is the key to his success.