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« Reply #5040 on: April 10, 2016, 04:08:44 PM »

Yeah, canned-apes are a delicious snack.....



So , rough dimensions

from the back face of the block to the front of the block, 440 mm
front face of the block to the end of the water pump pulley, 180mm ( the
water pump has a 30 mm spacer on it that we might be able to lose)
the other thing about the water pump on a chev is that it is almost an
after thought bolted on the front of the block. we could run an electric
pump
front face of the block to the front of the bottom pulley, 210mm
total length   650mm

the center line of the crank shaft is level with the bottom face of the
block unlike the commodore motor

bottom face of the block to the bottom of the sump 180mm
bottom face of the block the the top of the injectors  590mm ( this
doesn't allow for an air gap above the injector hats)
Total height 770mm


rocker cover to rocker cover is 670mm
should've measured rocker crank center line to rocker cover. tomorrow if
i get a chance

engine mounts
they are a plate on the front face of the block
the mounting holes are about 265mm each side of the center line of the
crank and about 130 mm above the center line of the crank

We may still have to make the car longer

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That looks good, if there is anyway we can use a slightly shorter front set/ or narrower belt arrangement that would be useful...what about a double or triple v-belt?

The engine plate is a neat fit, that should be no trouble at all but what goes ahead of that may be problematic.

The car is on stands, it got a bit of a clean as it was the backdrop to Simon's little video shoot on the weekend, he made me do stuff over, and over, and over......... we had words....."mate, the butterfly will be dead by the time you catch it"........... Dead Horse

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« Reply #5041 on: April 10, 2016, 05:17:19 PM »

I'm trying to work out what you are doing to my rims in the picture Simon sent me
Were they a bit of a tight fit?
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« Reply #5042 on: April 10, 2016, 06:26:31 PM »

I'm trying to work out what you are doing to my rims in the picture Simon sent me
Were they a bit of a tight fit?
G

yeah you could say that...........

They're always a little tight those hubs, we've cleaned up the inner edge of the race wheels, those trailer ones need to have the same treatment and we need to keep those hubs with a little coating of something to stop them getting that little rusting on them ..........what I was doing was putting a little pressure on them while some WD40 seeped in..then some judicious tapping on the baseplate of the jack and it let go..

SPANG!!!!!!


As you were.
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« Reply #5043 on: April 11, 2016, 10:43:02 AM »

How are you hooking trans to pinion, can you go to a Greek coupler or a flat flange setup & cheat the engine/trans back a skosh?
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« Reply #5044 on: April 11, 2016, 04:41:36 PM »

How are you hooking trans to pinion, can you go to a Greek coupler or a flat flange setup & cheat the engine/trans back a skosh?
  Sid.

Good question Sid-en-eeee,

Herr Grumm has mentioned the possibility of using something like the Datto tailshaft with flanges, going Greek could be good but I'm not sure sure we could muster the Drachmas for that.


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« Reply #5045 on: April 11, 2016, 05:00:38 PM »

However.......

there is this:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GM-Powerglide-Male-Coupler-Long-Suit-27-Spline-/321930361862?hash=item4af48b7c06:g:BMcAAOSwaNBUjogS

that would get us there.... and being click and collect from Woolies we could get some "milk" while we're there cheers


But, I can't seem to find what we'd need at the other end......
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« Reply #5046 on: April 11, 2016, 06:31:27 PM »

I had B&J custom build me some Greek couplers for my 7.5 10 bolts in the liner so they are set up to do them now.
Ok, I just called Mike to check & the longest 32 spline TH400 coupler he makes is 7" total length & they are $120 each, part # B&J-80. The custom 7.5 10 bolt female are $150 each & they are a no mod bolt up. Part number B&J-SID.
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« Reply #5047 on: April 11, 2016, 09:59:57 PM »

I used Mark Williams couplers when I switched to a new transmission. Good selection of applications plus you get blanks you can modify as you need. They also have the components to make up short driveshafts with the same gear couplers.

http://www.markwilliams.com/driveshaftSolid.aspx?CategoryID=207

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« Reply #5048 on: April 12, 2016, 01:28:41 AM »

Boom!

I'm comin' back here, you blokes are real helpful.....


No, seriously that was great, that will make all the difference if we can use a coupler, it may give us as much as four inches. grin grin grin
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« Reply #5049 on: April 12, 2016, 01:30:21 AM »

......and the part# is priceless. cheers cheers
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« Reply #5050 on: April 12, 2016, 09:40:36 AM »

Yeah I'm a priceless kinda guy.......oh hang on......I mean without much money. tongue
I have both of those parts here, although I'm not using them in the same configuration but if you decide to go that way I can get you the total distance out from the diff housing so you can keep building without parts in hand.
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« Reply #5051 on: April 20, 2016, 03:26:31 AM »

It's 260mm from the rear plate of our box(which is the end point of the female spline) to the face on the pinion. Can you measure the pairs you have Sid? Even if we can save 75mm it'd be good.

In other news I did a clean up jobon the engine bay which makes it approachable now, it looked like the engine bay of something that had done 300,000miles without a wash...............
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« Reply #5052 on: April 20, 2016, 04:38:56 PM »

Ok Mate, here's what I came up with.
Due to the fact I don't have your pinion yoke I'm using the distance from the front of the diff housing to the rear of the trans tail housing. This will always be constant no matter what the pinion depth is plus I had the 10 bolt couplers done 3/8" long so they could be cut back if needed.
With B&J-SID & B&J-80E it will be 2 1/2".
With B&J-SID & B&J-80 it will be 5 3/4" or anywhere down to 2 1/2" if you want to cut down the 80 coupler, they are splined full length.
This is giving you the standard 2" of spline contact on the trans output shaft & you will use a split collar (about $8) on the trans shaft to set the end float of the 80 coupler that is a floater. You can cheat 5 3/4 out to 6 1/4 ish at both ends if you need to.
All these couplers are machinable with a tungsten bit if you need to shorten them or cut a seal surface.
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« Reply #5053 on: April 21, 2016, 12:55:34 PM »

Fantastic! That means even with  longest length we can lose about 3 inches, meaning we can get all the room we need it seems. Colonel, what say you?
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« Reply #5054 on: April 21, 2016, 06:23:06 PM »

That is good news. 

I don't question you're ability to lengthen the chassis, but you've got a proven combination, and if you can get this done without having to cut and paste, you're saving time and minimizing variables.

Is the Rev in town?

Dodge, dude, this is getting exiting!  cheers
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