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« on: April 06, 2010, 05:56:28 PM »

What's the formula(s) for when you can go 160 on 500 HP, how fast you can go with 600 and/or if you need to go 180, how much increased HP you need.

You know -- the square of the increase(?) is half the angle of the dangle or whatever?

Help!!!

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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2010, 06:19:04 PM »

I found this one
http://robrobinette.com/top_speed.htm

170.025mph on 600hp need 715 hp to get 180mph
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2010, 06:33:05 PM »

Here's Sumner's calculation Excel sheets, including the one you're looking for. 

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/bville-spreadsheet-index.html#Horse%20Power%20Needed
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2010, 06:41:31 PM »

The Robinette one gave some unbelievable figures -- and as usual I couldn't access Sumner's spreadsheets.  I guess I'll have to depend on the Shearers for the best answer.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2010, 06:43:47 PM »

Stan,

Just mash the gas pedal and hang on.....I am sure you have all the power you need.

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2010, 07:08:04 PM »

I think it goes... all the power you can afford dose not go as fast as you want.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2010, 09:31:43 PM »

Stan,

Send me the numbers and I will crunch them for you.

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"Got'Cha" was first run in 1974. Bill Temple entered both 2 clubs in 1976 with records in AA/BGR. At El Mirage 201.79 and Bonneville at 220.

In 1977 Greg Temple started driving "Got'Cha" and entered the El Mirage Dirty 2 club in 1979 @ 201.97. Greg went on to set two records at Bonneville, one in 1981 at 241.848, then in 1991 he set another record at 262.230

Bill and Greg were the first father and son to enter the El Mirage Dirty 2 club. They broke the D/BFR at Bonneville in 1981 @ 241 with top speed of 249. This record still stands today. In 1991 they set the A/BFR @ 262 which was later broke by Duane McKinney.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2010, 10:58:18 PM »

I think it goes... all the power you can afford dose not go as fast as you want.

Here's the formula - it's corollary is based on boat ownership -

($ x APR) + 5W = S x .99, where

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APR = variable
5W = lodging
S = speed
.99 = "I'll be back next year" coefficient

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 10:35:09 AM »

Payback is hill.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 10:49:10 AM »

Did you want that formula to work forwards or backwards?  evil

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 10:50:29 AM »

Yes
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2010, 12:36:22 PM »

Stan,

Send me the numbers and I will crunch them for you.

Tom G.

Stan,

Are you sure those are the right numbers you sent me? I come up with a minus 7. Sorry.

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"Got'Cha" was first run in 1974. Bill Temple entered both 2 clubs in 1976 with records in AA/BGR. At El Mirage 201.79 and Bonneville at 220.

In 1977 Greg Temple started driving "Got'Cha" and entered the El Mirage Dirty 2 club in 1979 @ 201.97. Greg went on to set two records at Bonneville, one in 1981 at 241.848, then in 1991 he set another record at 262.230

Bill and Greg were the first father and son to enter the El Mirage Dirty 2 club. They broke the D/BFR at Bonneville in 1981 @ 241 with top speed of 249. This record still stands today. In 1991 they set the A/BFR @ 262 which was later broke by Duane McKinney.
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2010, 12:48:30 PM »

If you are only going 160 on 500 hp you need a different car- 'less you are driving a freightliner or something!  cheers
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2010, 02:28:10 PM »

If you are only going 160 on 500 hp you need a different car- 'less you are driving a freightliner or something!  cheers

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2010, 11:38:33 PM »

The power is proportional to the speed.  To find the power take the ratio of the two speeds and cube that number.  180/160 = 1.125,  1.125 cubed =1.438  so 500 hp x 1.438 = 712 hp, rounded up

So how big is this car?  It has one heck of a CdA!
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