Cajun Kid
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 50
Location: Winston Salem, North Carolina
Posts: 3076
Venable Rod's & Racing #805 Studebaker, #806 Ford
|
 |
« on: December 03, 2009, 08:52:00 PM » |
|
For my 53 Studebaker (under Build Diaries) From what I read I am required to have roof rails and those rails need to be a max of 3/4" tall. If that is the case I guess I should make them the maximum height of 3/4" ?? Then where do I put them ? I know,,, silly on the roof would be a good place,,, but seriously,,,should they run from the the windshield back to the back glass ? then how far apart.. side to side,, as far out towards the doors or what ?
I was thinking of using .060 aluminum 1.5" wide and bending it to make 90 degree angle,,, 3/4" vertical rail and the other 3/4" flat attached Rivet ? or Bolted? to the Roof ...
Thanks
Charles
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
ECTA Record Holder Maxton E/CBFALT, E/CBGALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT, A/CGALT, C/CGALT, D/CGALT, C/CBGALT, B/CBGALT, C/CFALT OHIO C/CGALT LTA Record Holder A/CBFALT, B/CBFALT, C/CBFALT, C/CFALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT Fastest Standing Mile at Ohio 195.51mph Fastest Standing Mile at Maxton 191.006mph Fastest Standing 1.5 Mile at Loring 188.31mph http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii43/cajunkid5690/Blog www.venablerodsandracing.comemail venableracing@gmail.com
|
|
|
stratman59
Sr. Member
  
Offline
Age: 46
Location: Rocky Mount, North Carolina
Posts: 279
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 09:03:53 PM » |
|
Charles,
From what I found out 1/2" to 3/4" with the 1/2" having less drag. They to be as close to outside as possible and parallel. From the windsheild to the backglass and I have seen some go to the rear cowl panel' We pop rivet ours on and haven't had any problems. I'm sure someone way smarter than me will tell you more.
Robbie
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: December 03, 2009, 09:20:49 PM by stratman59 »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Glen
Global Moderator
Hero Member
  
Online
Age: 76
Location: South West Utah
Posts: 5131
SCTA/BNI timer 1983 to 2004,Semi Retired,.
|
 |
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 09:10:28 PM » |
|
Charles' mount from the wind shield to the front edge of the rear window and along the roof where the radius starts to the side. DO NOT mount with sheet metal screws, they come loose. You can use riv-nuts or 10-32 flat head screws counter sunk and elastic stop nuts about every foot. I am sure others will have some input as well.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Glen  South West, Utah
|
|
|
Cajun Kid
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 50
Location: Winston Salem, North Carolina
Posts: 3076
Venable Rod's & Racing #805 Studebaker, #806 Ford
|
 |
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 09:35:52 PM » |
|
Robbie & Glen,
Thanks for the info... Ok which way is best way to mount the rails with the flat part where it is riveted or screwed to the roof on the inside towards the middle of the car facing each other or to the outside ?
This way is facing in L J or the opposite.... facing out ?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
ECTA Record Holder Maxton E/CBFALT, E/CBGALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT, A/CGALT, C/CGALT, D/CGALT, C/CBGALT, B/CBGALT, C/CFALT OHIO C/CGALT LTA Record Holder A/CBFALT, B/CBFALT, C/CBFALT, C/CFALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT Fastest Standing Mile at Ohio 195.51mph Fastest Standing Mile at Maxton 191.006mph Fastest Standing 1.5 Mile at Loring 188.31mph http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii43/cajunkid5690/Blog www.venablerodsandracing.comemail venableracing@gmail.com
|
|
|
Glen
Global Moderator
Hero Member
  
Online
Age: 76
Location: South West Utah
Posts: 5131
SCTA/BNI timer 1983 to 2004,Semi Retired,.
|
 |
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 09:42:06 PM » |
|
flat side out L
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Glen  South West, Utah
|
|
|
Cajun Kid
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 50
Location: Winston Salem, North Carolina
Posts: 3076
Venable Rod's & Racing #805 Studebaker, #806 Ford
|
 |
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 09:44:08 PM » |
|
Verticle Side out ?
L roof J like that ?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
ECTA Record Holder Maxton E/CBFALT, E/CBGALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT, A/CGALT, C/CGALT, D/CGALT, C/CBGALT, B/CBGALT, C/CFALT OHIO C/CGALT LTA Record Holder A/CBFALT, B/CBFALT, C/CBFALT, C/CFALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT Fastest Standing Mile at Ohio 195.51mph Fastest Standing Mile at Maxton 191.006mph Fastest Standing 1.5 Mile at Loring 188.31mph http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii43/cajunkid5690/Blog www.venablerodsandracing.comemail venableracing@gmail.com
|
|
|
stratman59
Sr. Member
  
Offline
Age: 46
Location: Rocky Mount, North Carolina
Posts: 279
|
 |
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 09:47:08 PM » |
|
the screw flange to the inside facing each other.
L on the diver side. J on the pass.
Robbie
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Bville701
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 30
Location: Anaheim, CA
Posts: 552
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 09:48:00 PM » |
|
Yep you got it CK. 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Ryan LeFevers
701 C/GMR
|
|
|
Cajun Kid
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 50
Location: Winston Salem, North Carolina
Posts: 3076
Venable Rod's & Racing #805 Studebaker, #806 Ford
|
 |
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 09:58:31 PM » |
|
Thanks guys... may build them tomorrow too.....if time permits
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
ECTA Record Holder Maxton E/CBFALT, E/CBGALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT, A/CGALT, C/CGALT, D/CGALT, C/CBGALT, B/CBGALT, C/CFALT OHIO C/CGALT LTA Record Holder A/CBFALT, B/CBFALT, C/CBFALT, C/CFALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT Fastest Standing Mile at Ohio 195.51mph Fastest Standing Mile at Maxton 191.006mph Fastest Standing 1.5 Mile at Loring 188.31mph http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii43/cajunkid5690/Blog www.venablerodsandracing.comemail venableracing@gmail.com
|
|
|
Glen
Global Moderator
Hero Member
  
Online
Age: 76
Location: South West Utah
Posts: 5131
SCTA/BNI timer 1983 to 2004,Semi Retired,.
|
 |
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 10:01:39 PM » |
|
You can buy 1/8 x 3/4 x 3/4 x 6 ft alum at Ace, Home Depot and Lowes hardware stores, soft and easy to form for roof curve.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Glen  South West, Utah
|
|
|
Cajun Kid
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 50
Location: Winston Salem, North Carolina
Posts: 3076
Venable Rod's & Racing #805 Studebaker, #806 Ford
|
 |
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 10:29:46 PM » |
|
Glen,
I will look for the Aluminum angle as you describe...
we have plenty of flat aluminum,, was just going to bend a 1.5 inch strip in a 90 angle to make a 3/4 x 3/4
but the store bought angle will work too..
Charles
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
ECTA Record Holder Maxton E/CBFALT, E/CBGALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT, A/CGALT, C/CGALT, D/CGALT, C/CBGALT, B/CBGALT, C/CFALT OHIO C/CGALT LTA Record Holder A/CBFALT, B/CBFALT, C/CBFALT, C/CFALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT Fastest Standing Mile at Ohio 195.51mph Fastest Standing Mile at Maxton 191.006mph Fastest Standing 1.5 Mile at Loring 188.31mph http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii43/cajunkid5690/Blog www.venablerodsandracing.comemail venableracing@gmail.com
|
|
|
Glen
Global Moderator
Hero Member
  
Online
Age: 76
Location: South West Utah
Posts: 5131
SCTA/BNI timer 1983 to 2004,Semi Retired,.
|
 |
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 10:31:43 PM » |
|
There is also thinner wall like 1/16"
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Glen  South West, Utah
|
|
|
|
Jonny Hotnuts
|
 |
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 04:17:19 PM » |
|
From what I found out 1/2" to 3/4" with the 1/2" having less drag I would not understand how, providing the rails are dead parallel to the direction of travel, there would be any noticeable (or measurable) difference between .5 and .75 rail height. I am just curious how you came to this conclusion. I have always suggested that a person should use as tall of a rail as possible. While I have not seen any data on rail height vs. decrease in lift generated by traveling laterally I made the assumption that bigger is better…..especially if its not causing any significant increase in Cd. ~JH
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"Sometimes it is impossible to deal with her, but most of the time she is very sweet, and if you caress her properly she will sing beautifully." *Andres Segovia (when Im not working on the car, I am ususally playing classical guitar)
|
|
|
Cajun Kid
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 50
Location: Winston Salem, North Carolina
Posts: 3076
Venable Rod's & Racing #805 Studebaker, #806 Ford
|
 |
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 06:42:49 PM » |
|
JH,
I am going with the max height or 3/4" on my roof rails.
Now do I use 3/4 x 3/4 by .125 thick material or .100 or .090. or .080 ?
Charles
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
ECTA Record Holder Maxton E/CBFALT, E/CBGALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT, A/CGALT, C/CGALT, D/CGALT, C/CBGALT, B/CBGALT, C/CFALT OHIO C/CGALT LTA Record Holder A/CBFALT, B/CBFALT, C/CBFALT, C/CFALT, E/CGALT, E/CFALT Fastest Standing Mile at Ohio 195.51mph Fastest Standing Mile at Maxton 191.006mph Fastest Standing 1.5 Mile at Loring 188.31mph http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii43/cajunkid5690/Blog www.venablerodsandracing.comemail venableracing@gmail.com
|
|
|
McRat
Hero Member
   
Offline
Age: 52
Location: Norco CA
Posts: 1431
Diesel Hotrodder
|
 |
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2009, 06:50:54 PM » |
|
I used .060" It's pretty rigid. .125 is way too thick IMO.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Pat and Kat McSwain - DT 1616 "Casper" 2005 GMC 2500HD Sierra 4x4 Duramax Diesel + Allison Transmission B/DT & A/DT record holder, El Mirage (163) & Bonneville (175) Best clocking 197.068 mph - Bonneville '09, 2.25mi www.duramaxdiesels.com
|
|
|
|