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Author Topic: I think we are going to build an A/BG liner.  (Read 1580 times)
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« on: November 15, 2009, 11:03:50 PM »

BBarn and I are seriously considering building a liner and using the engine (Twin Turbo BBC) and trans (TH400) from my 63 LeMans.
We will be asking your help about setting the design parameters.
We will get liner as far along as possible before disassembling Pontiac.
Ideas that we have so far include-
1) Dual Rear drive axles w 9 x 30 MT tires
2) Driver to be positioned ahead of anything flammable similar to Buckeye Bullet.
3) Body sized to fit 800" 5" bore spacing big block w very big turbos (for future improvements).
4) Structure to be built similar to Golden Rod using laser or waterjet cut plates as bulheads.
5) No suspension.
6) Front wheels to be conventional positioning like Spirit of Rett not Speed Demon.
7) Overall body structure to be rounded corner square shape cross section.
Cool Bottom skirting to be square to minimize air getting under car.
9) 3" ride height
10) Spring loaded parachute tubes for quick reloading.
11) Single vertical tail fin.
12) 70 gal engine cooling tank. 40 gal min icewater intercooler tank. Fuel tank big enough for nitromethane.
13) Torque converter eliminator.
14) Entire car to be computerized solid modeled before first part is ordered.
15) Parts list to be as complete as possible before first part is ordered.
16) Absolutely no sponsors!
17) Absolutely no gingerbread. If it does not help it go faster, it doesn't go on the car. No chrome or nice paint.

Records are not the important thing on this car. We just want to go fast as we possibly can with the resources we have.

Anything else we should add to the list?
Should anything come off?

Rob and Brandon

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 02:32:58 PM »

    Rob, Rob, Rob, you have got the feeeeeeeever!!!!!  Do it.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 02:36:35 PM »

Very cool!   cheers

How about running 5 Hayabusa engines instead?   evil
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 02:59:40 PM »

McRat, if money were no issue we would use a few of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_T55
or one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkFlvIy8Wqo

I'm not sure if Bonneville is big enough for the second one!  grin
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 07:26:20 PM »

Very cool!   cheers

How about running 5 Hayabusa engines instead?   evil

Ahhh, that still not enough hp rolleyes. Maybe if they were all turboed? grin
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 08:18:32 PM »

Why no suspension?
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 08:31:04 PM »

Well I guess you haven't heard of the Vesco Turbinator, Current record holder wheel driven streamliner at 458.440 mph with a exit speed of 470 mph. Oh, it is powered by a Lycoming T-55-11 Turbine shaft drive.Build one and join us.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 08:44:13 PM »

That's why I said a FEW of these... grin It's just that pesky money thing. Just once I would like to try life with more money than Bill Gates!
would use a few of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycoming_T55

I did look into a turbine engine, I can pick up a T58 for $22K. But for the HP output, we've already got more in an existing power plant. I did consider making a push vehicle with the T58 powering it just to get our feet wet with a turbine, it's that money thing again...
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 10:40:42 PM »

Why so high in front?  What would the nose shape be?
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 11:03:50 PM »

I think we may drop it a bit lower after further discussion. The latest discussion was to get it as close to the ground as possible without hitting. We should have a draft of the body done soon that we can post.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2009, 10:35:37 AM »

cant wait to see it --- especially your frame ideas
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2009, 11:10:32 PM »

Why so high in front?  What would the nose shape be?

It will probably be cross between Marlo's, Buckeye Bullet II, and Spirit of Rett.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2009, 09:00:15 PM »

Robfrey and BBarn,
If you are going to make this level of effort you should consider getting some one like Blue on your project to do the aero. Especially if you are planning to do the full "Don Dalero" CAD effort, this makes CFD the next logical step.  At the speeds you are looking to go a little increase in aero is worth a ton of horse power.

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