The new rule for Head and neck restraints for 2010

[CGoodson]

What if you don't have room in the cockpit for a HANS device because you lay down in the car?

[Cajun Kid]

Try one of the devices from Safety Solutions, like the hybrid pro !!

Charles

[CGoodson]

Are those devices like a hutchins devices? When you lay in the cockpit your head needs to look forward out the canopy. Lot of the devices hold your head straight up.

[interested bystander]

CGoodson, some things you might think about.

Have you REALLY checked HANS to see if they can't accomodate an extreme lay-down vehicle.

Look at Scott Sharp's crash in the Patron American LeMans car last week . Total destruction! He walked away and ran the race with a backup. He wore a HANS device.

All Formula One drivers wear HANS devices.

The late Ed Rannberg who drove several lay-down vehicles during his fifty year career, including the electric streamliner that holds the FIA and BNI Class Two records, told me on many occasions a driver/rider MUST be able to have his face forward to adequately control the vehicle. (MAYBE you're gonna use a periscope, then you're on yer own).

Build something to drive/ride around and practice control,
 then draw your own conclusions.

Well intentioned comments. Good luck.

[CGoodson]

I know that the HANS device is great for the safety of the driver. The HANS device saves lives! I am a advocate for safety. I have been taught my whole life from my father safety first over anything else in racing. I was just wonder what other people are going to used for a lay down style cockpits?

[1212FBGS]

isnt it Ed's son Randy Rannberg that holds the records?
kent

[interested bystander]

Randy Holds the BNI record, Eric Leuben, the Lightning Rod engineer, hoilds the FIA.

Both set after Ed passed.

Ed, of course first drove the car and was the second electic driver over 200. His career in lay down vehicles goes all the way back to the McCullogh 100 ci drone aircraft engined "NO CAM SPECIAL" of 1959. He laid dead flat on his back -but with his head upright. Then there was the Triumph twin front wheel drive dragster that wouldn't EVER go straight that vibrated so badly your nose tickled.

 Randy occaisionally posts on Landracing and I'm sure is following 1212's electric bike adventures. (He rode the last electic drag bike his dad built).

He's probably going to put an IC engine in Lightning Rod in time.

[SPARKY]

I was by Summners place last week and he showed me the Saftey Solutions hybrid pro---It has nothing that sticks up behind the helment, that I was concerned about ---it ALSO already has the 38.1 SFI cert---not just tested to---Summ looked at most and chose this for his lay down Lakester---I feel it will work for me and is available in big boy sizes,  theirs straps OVER the fire suit, very important with a 20 fire suit.  AS SOON as the new spec helments are available I will be ordering the pair.

[Nexxussian]

I've used a Hutchins setup at other venues and am considering one of the DJ safety head / neck retraint systems for B-Ville.

Hope that helps.

[jl222]

  Does anyone know who the person was that proposed this rule and if any lobbying went on by the manufactures?
  Also how many vehicles will be required to purchase them [ how many cars are out there]?= LOTS of bucks!!
 
  And don't get me wrong here because I'm all for motorcycles but if SCTA is doing it for safety reasons how can they allow motorcycles to run?

  Like I said in my rule change request, SCTA can highly recommend Hans type devices but don't make it mandatory as in certain types of vehicles it may trap the driver resulting in DEATH FROM FIRE.

  If you want one buy one but don't make it mandatory.


               JL222

[Glen]

Last weeks NHRA  National Dragster paper had a very interesting article regarding the neck restraints. I would hope everyone get a copy and read it.

[jackson]

I feel very comfortable with my HANS device, but I'm not sure I have it adjusted correctly.  HOPEFULLY I  don't have to look very far left or right, so I run it with the tethers fairly tight.  I stopped by the HANS trailer this year, and between my cruddy French, and his better English, I got the impression this was OK.  Anybody have any thoughts on this?

[CGoodson]

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone. The feedback I have received has been great and I think now I have a good idea of what we can do.

[Cajun Kid]

I use the Hybrid Pro  from Safety Solutions.

The tighter the teathers the better. !!!!

I prefer the teathers tight but I have the kind that even when tight they allow some movement. They are the  "sliding teather" model and allow some left to right movement.  I also have the quick detach style with pull disconnectors.

Good luck with whatever style you choose.

Charles

[GH]

Mike C. and myself have used the Isaac link system since 05 and have been happy with it.