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« on: December 05, 2008, 11:16:12 AM » |
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On one of the other threads I read hotnuts post about the cost of a Busa Motor. I am now curious as to find bargain basement HP. So if anyone is interested, how many $ per HP are you spending (If you don't wan't to share what you spend I understand, but this is for science). I'm talking complete engine only. We run a 500" chev in A/GR. Complete motor was roughly $18,000 in in parts (when we originaly built it) and builds about 950 HP. You don't need to show how much you spent or how much HP it makes but if you share the $ per HP it would be cool.
$ per HP = $18.94.
Thought this might be interesting and help folks who are trying to make power plant decisions.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 11:32:07 AM » |
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$ per HP= 10.00 HP per cu. in.=2.25
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 03:25:15 PM » |
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$20.00 $ per hp hp per cubic inch 2.0 Both of which are likely to increase Later Rocket
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 05:08:47 PM » |
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I just bought a spare Kawasaki ZX10 motor for $700, without throttle bodies. It should make about 155-160hp, so about $5/hp. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 06:27:38 PM » |
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600hp turbo hayabusa engine package $15-17,000usd 400hp turbo hayabusa engine package $9,500
Base engine $1500 $1,500 Rods, pistons, trans mods $2,500 $2,500 Turbo system $11,000-13,000. $5,500
7.5hp/cu inch 5hp/cu in $28/hp $23.75/hp
How much would a 500" BBC that made 3750hp cost? Bike engines are cheap hp.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 06:36:11 PM » |
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I start figuring the math . . .
and then I start to feel kinda silly . . .
So far, it's ~$30.00 per CI . . . for the crankshaft.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 07:38:46 PM » |
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As a rule, it seems the "additional" horsepower cost more each, compared to the base hosrsepower. I guess we should plan for the maximum from the start to save money.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 10:53:01 PM » |
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540HP / 91 CID / $7,400 ~14$/HP 5.9HP/CI
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 11:53:58 PM » |
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600hp turbo hayabusa engine package $15-17,000usd 400hp turbo hayabusa engine package $9,500
Base engine $1500 $1,500 Rods, pistons, trans mods $2,500 $2,500 Turbo system $11,000-13,000. $5,500
7.5hp/cu inch 5hp/cu in $28/hp $23.75/hp
How much would a 500" BBC that made 3750hp cost? Bike engines are cheap hp.
jason, Thank you for not only taking the time to put to print the true (cheap for a busa) costs yet also convey that a BBC engine build is expensive when done right. Merry X-mas you Canuck. J J
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Seeing him at Bonneville during 2008 Speedweek was the tops, Dave was in awe of the salt and as usual was there helping out anyone who asked..simply put we lost a great man who will be missed by all. J
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 12:05:57 AM » |
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I would like to know where you can get a complete busa motor with TBs, harness, ECU, dash for 1500$. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/crate_engines/victor_650.shtmlTHis motor makes 650HP and sells for 12,800$. The BB is cheaper.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 12:44:08 AM » |
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Johnny, Many times you have posted several intelligent posts however if you think you can take a 650 HP (engine dynoed) and run the same speeds with a 500HP (rear wheel Busa car (Jacks) then you are severely mistaken.. How fast has you car run with how much HP? I know you were saying 250 was possible ( I think that was you ) several times I have have bought Busa's (23 wrecked or running Busa's to date) for a very good price and either after selling the rest of the parts I have often been left (like many others) with a perfect running complete engine with throttle bodies, wire harness/ecm and gauges if needed..you are wrong about cheap HP period. John J
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On 9-27-08 we lost a great friend and fellow racer, he was the BEST, he helped anyone with anything at anytime. His name is Dave Owen and he will be missed by all that knew him and I am glad to have met him.
Seeing him at Bonneville during 2008 Speedweek was the tops, Dave was in awe of the salt and as usual was there helping out anyone who asked..simply put we lost a great man who will be missed by all. J
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2008, 01:05:16 AM » |
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one thing you liars arent adding in is how much stuff you've blown up learning how to make that HP
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2008, 01:11:03 AM » |
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I would like to know where you can get a complete busa motor with TBs, harness, ECU, dash for 1500$.
Does it have to have the serial number on it?  Seriously, part of making this work is being in the right place at the right time. Same goes for guitars, antiques, and machine tools. But part of the hot rod credo is doing it on the cheap, keeping your eyes and ears open, thinking long-term, and most importantly, developing contacts in the business - that's how you get the cool price. The down side is that as soon as what you've been looking for becomes available, you have to be able to act on the deal with no questions, and cash in hand. This puts you at the front of the line on the next deal, and the cycle continues. That's how I picked up my 1952 Fender Telecaster, my turn-of-the-century solid oak kitchen table, and my Lincoln welder. Patience, perseverance, and cash-in-hand.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2008, 01:38:17 AM » |
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I'm only guestimating and I'm doing it conservatively but our Buick based V6 has only three figures in it and would be good for somewhere under 300hp meaning we're in the sub $5 a hp range........that's with a lot of time in the headers , a long time in the heads and porting and a deal of blood sweat and tears in the manifold a cheap chip and some HD valve springs.....We do however have another late model crate motor that has all the goodies ,stock it will only make a few more neddies but it will rev a lot harder, it cost nothing( sometimes ya get lucky) ...yet is probably worth between 8 and 10 $ausssie so that would be in the 20 to 30 dollar range........difference is the late model motor has probably got legs...the hot-rod motor is dying to get one out of bed  Now four months ago we nearly had parity...the Aussie was at 97 US cents ....right now it's down around 64...go figure...we ain't even in recession....yet. So, that REAL CHEAP horsepower by your guys standards.... That's how I picked up my 1952 Fender Telecaster bragger!....ah ha....I hope it gives you splinters.....gotta say I am glad I bought my last Tele from the states before the exchange rate slumped.. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2008, 01:54:18 AM » |
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Johnny - I bought a running Busa w/salvage title that I ran at the last El Mirage meet for $2700.........there out there. Scott
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