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« on: July 02, 2008, 06:20:29 PM » |
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Hello
I have six different front wheel options that will fit into the front end on the bike running in the BUB Modified class.
Before I order the front fender, I need to choose one of the following.....
17" Suzuki Aluminum three spoke mag without brake discs - 4.25 inch wide rim. This is the shortest tire, but also the widest(by far)
18" five spoke mid 1980's yamaha mag - heavy,heavy, heavy wheel with swirly, square spokes, but the rim is only 2.75 wide.
the same 18" five spoke mid 1980's yamaha mag with both brake discs.
18" spoked wheel, 2.75 rim, 6 inch diameter hub surrounded by 6 inches of spokes and rim
18" spoked wheel with both brake discs installed, 2.75 rim, 6 inch diameter hub surrounded by 6 inches of spokes and rim
18" drum wheel, 2.75 rim, 10 inch diameter hub surrounded by 4 inches of spokes and rim
No matter what wheel is used, there will not be any front calipers.
Assuming that the fender is an equal fit for all the wheels, which of the six do you all think would be the best choice? What about the aerodynamics?
Thanks, Mark
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 06:24:25 PM » |
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17" suz "WITH" discs
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2008, 06:43:32 PM » |
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Why such a wide Front wheel..what bike? I may have something better for you..
J
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 09:26:28 PM » |
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Why such a wide Front wheel..what bike? I may have something better for you..
J
The only reason I was considering the Suzuki mag was because of it's shape, almost in spite of it's width!! I can see how a hayabusa front wheel/fender fits a bike that is four cylinders wide, but when you are starting with a bike that is only one cylinder wide even a hayabusa fender looks like snow plow! What where you thinking as 'skinny' wheel options? Mark p.s. the front end is based around older convential style yamaha tz forks
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2008, 09:56:29 PM » |
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does it really matter how wide the front wheel is? I would think that as long as it was not wider than the body it would not matter; after all, it would not make the frontal area larger. I could even see a wider front wheel improving Cd by directing a larger volume of air smoothly before it hits the bike-radiator.
I dont have a clue what I am talking about but am I that far off base?
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 10:35:54 PM » |
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jonny i changed my front wheel and sidecar wheel from 90-90 21 to 22x2.5 x 17 with no changes to the motor and picked up 7 mph remember that the wheel is traveling the speed you are the and top half is rotating into the wind --i also switched from a spoke wheel (wire) to a 3 spoke mag much better aero willie buchta
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 09:50:23 AM » |
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Jonny, I think you may be right. Yeah the busa fender is big but it is pretty good air flow wise. I bet if you took the front fender off a busa it would loose 3 ro 4 mph. Willie I have always thought you were losing some speed by not running a front fender.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 12:13:50 PM » |
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im loosing speed by not running a busa --im a pushrod guy--if there were no pushrod bikes then i wouldnt ride --as far as fenders i ran a fender in 07 in may and june --in june i ran 120.796 mph on a 123 i took off the fender for july and ran 124.942 mph for the gas record www.scta-bni.org 07 results bike pics --i will admit that i had a fender that wasnt very aero -- willie buchta
forgot-----a good front wheel is a yamaha seca front wheel buy it on e- bay about 60 dollars get the 3 spoke 2.5 x 17 mount a goodyear eagle frontrunner 22 x 2.5 x 17 (149 dollars ) it will be 22 in tall and 2.50 in wide and speed rated to 300 + mph
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 10:04:21 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 10:16:23 AM » |
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FR, this is the correct way to post as those interested can open and read or skip.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 10:41:49 AM » |
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franklin you wouldnt have one laying around would you --ive been looking for one for a liner project willie buchta
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 10:49:26 AM » |
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franklin you wouldnt have on laying around would you --ive been looking for one for a liner project willie buchta
Great minds think alike. Actually just the opposite is true, but if you walk the earth long enough you at least see a lot of good ideas that someday might come in handy. Attached is a drawing of an Indy/Formula One car rocker arm front suspension. A motorcycle front swing arm can be viewed as a racecar rocker arm suspension that has been rotated 90 degrees horizontally so that it points forward instead of sideways. The tricks to making it work on a bike then become the kingpin inclination (caster) and the rates on the coil/shock unit.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 10:57:07 AM » |
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Additional information; www.bakker-framebouw.nlCheck out the QCS Model.........it only takes money and you can have one.....name your engine a fun bike to ride.....and a real conversation piece
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 11:54:53 AM » |
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The Bimota Tesi has had a forward swing arm design from the 80's....costly bike though. http://www.bimotausa.com/ old school, one on ebay 110267513975  Tube design on the 08
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"Sometimes it is impossible to deal with her, but most of the time she is very sweet, and if you caress her properly she will sing beautifully." *Andres Segovia (when Im not working on the car, I am ususally playing classical guitar)
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 01:26:22 PM » |
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The Yamaha GTS 1000 had this similar type of suspension.
Scott
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