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« Reply #75 on: July 06, 2008, 10:42:22 PM » |
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"Gosh, I was hoping one of the smart fab guys on this site would tell me how to cut a 60 with my little 0-45 4.5 inch Harbor Freight bandsaw, might have to scribe it on the tube and cut it with a Dotco...."
Scribe the tube with the required 60 degree angle. Set your band saw up in its vertical configuration using the cheap flimsey little table that comes with it. Saw away. You may have to do a very light touch up with the grinder depending on how vertical the blade was to the table.
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« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2008, 10:48:24 AM » |
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PJ, I was afraid that was the answer, I guess I'll go find the little table, hope I didn't use it for a project that needed some thin material...  For everyone else, I caught Max working again yesterday, he was making shafts for the gear drive between the motors. I could have taken a picture of his big pile of chips, but we decided maybe today might be better. I'm going that way to trade out my Argon and Oxygen bottles, so I'll stop by. I'll keep you posted... |
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Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
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« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2008, 09:22:38 PM » |
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Just wanted to tell you what a Great job i think your doing on all the progress of the old man`s streamliner.He may be slow but he`s smooth.Thanks again for the use of the bead blaster.
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« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2008, 05:54:51 PM » |
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Little Max, your welcome, still looking for my portable. Sum, You are so right about the wheel thing, I turned that thing over and it moves around the shop so much easier. I may have to push it outside and paint it now that it moves so easily... I stopped to see Max, caught him working on the motors. He had taken a break from motor work to get the salt flap on the rear fender. He hopes it will help keep a little of the salt out of the bike, it seals around the body. As part of his motor work, he needed to make a couple of dummy shafts to sub in for the cranks, here is the part that's not shaft... I knew he was keeping busy  |
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MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2008, 06:29:32 PM » |
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OK, now don't tell Max, but I snuck a couple of pics of the motor work.  This first one is one of the fixtures that locks the crank drive gears at TDC. There is one for each crank. Here is the drive set up, the dummy shafts I mentioned are the big aluminum ones. Max is relocating one of the holes to pick up a little of the backlash. The gears are quick change rear gears that Max had EDM'd to the correct size cause they are hard as diamonds. Of course, all of those shafts have bearings and supports on both sides. More to follow as motor work progresses.... |
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MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2008, 06:48:48 PM » |
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While I was there, we decided to pick up Max's new Bonneville tool box at Lowes. I had my grandson there so it was easier assembling and lifting on a couple of old guys...  Max expects to be able to carry his tools and spares and get rid of his "plastic totes" organization system. It will look great in his new trailer  |
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Stainless
MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2008, 09:55:16 AM » |
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Painted the SSCLD (Streamlined Sidecar Lugging Device) yesterday... OK, I am not a painter, I sprayed it in the yard, got done just as the local cottonwood tree decided to puke up some more cotton. That stuff makes a fly on the paint look good. It is outside again today, supposed to rain again, (sorry there west coasters, we are getting more of your share and don't need it) so I will see if there are any thin spots or spots I missed. Hoping to find them here, and not on the salt where they really turn bright red. If it needs another coat I have plenty of paint, I use it for the iron fence as well. dropping in on Max later.... |
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Stainless
MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2008, 10:24:04 AM » |
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Painted the SSCLD (Streamlined Sidecar Lugging Device) yesterday... OK, I am not a painter, I sprayed it in the yard, got done just as the local cottonwood tree decided to puke up some more cotton. That stuff makes a fly on the paint look good. It is outside again today, supposed to rain again, (sorry there west coasters, we are getting more of your share and don't need it) so I will see if there are any thin spots or spots I missed. Hoping to find them here, and not on the salt where they really turn bright red. If it needs another coat I have plenty of paint, I use it for the iron fence as well. dropping in on Max later.... Looks good, but tell me about the car in the second picture, Sum |
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« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2008, 02:53:20 PM » |
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Looks good, but tell me about the car in the second picture,
Sum
38 Packard Coupe, picked it up in project status 6 months ago to play with in my spare time. Haven't touched it except to move it out of the way several times. Back on subject Max relocated the shafts in the case for the 2 upper gears (2 & 4) to adjust the backlash.  That is not a small task Then relocated the same holes on the carrier support plate. The 2 shafts and gears you can see are the crankshaft dummies he made earlier. This is the piece, basically the left half of the 2 motors mated together A to B. Max is cleaning the other motor parts, getting ready to assemble. Things are starting to take shape...  Hopefully I will catch him before it is all together the next time. He seems to be picking up momentum.... |
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Stainless
MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #84 on: July 12, 2008, 05:07:01 PM » |
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Painted the SSCLD (Streamlined Sidecar Lugging Device) yesterday... OK, I am not a painter, I sprayed it in the yard, got done just as the local cottonwood tree decided to puke up some more cotton. That stuff makes a fly on the paint look good. It is outside again today, supposed to rain again, (sorry there west coasters, we are getting more of your share and don't need it) so I will see if there are any thin spots or spots I missed. Hoping to find them here, and not on the salt where they really turn bright red. If it needs another coat I have plenty of paint, I use it for the iron fence as well. dropping in on Max later.... Hey guy, I've been busy as heck, as you're fully aware, trying to get the pieces finished so I can put the lump together. This is the first chance I've had to take a look at your handiwork. Dodge nice. Looks like just what we needed to make life easier on the salt. We talked about how hard it was going to be to push fifteen hundred pounds of streamliner up the trailer ramp. The bike probably weighs about the same as Denis' bike, do any of you know if Denis manually pushes his liner in and out of the trailer? or does he have a way to pull it in mechanically? I don't think there'll be a problem taking it out of the trailer--in fact we'll probably have to hold on for dear life, or it'll probably wind up somewhere in the next county. It's pretty slippery. I finished up all the pieces on the rear engine. The crankshaft's in, and the cases are buttoned up. If everything goes well, I should have the lump all together in the next four days. Lots of things to hang on those puppies. A standard Vincent engine has more parts than the average bear. I have two--plus a hundred or more parts that are my doins'. Lots and lots of metal shapes, it's certainly a crossword puzzle. Rocky Robinson, AUTHOR, is doing a column on Black Lightning. Thanks Rocky, for giving my scooter a little press. (And thanks to you too, Stainless.) A BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION IS IN ORDER FOR TOMORROW, JULY 13, 2008. BLACK LIGHTNING'S REAR ENGINE ROLLED OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE AT THE WORKS IN STEVENAGE, ENGLAND 60 YEARS AGO--JULY 13, 1948. In 1996, the liner's first time out, Don Vesco was my rider. We were on the salt shooting the breeze and some fellow walked up and asked, "Why are you using those forty year old push rod motors to try to set a record with?" Don smiled and replied, "The horses that those engines make don't know they'e forty years old." Max |
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« Reply #85 on: July 12, 2008, 05:42:33 PM » |
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Denis has an electric powered dolly that the liner fits on (two posts that slip up into the carbon fiber) once on the dolly they can drive it in or out of the trailer, he then uses a hydraulic hoist on the side of his trailer to set in on the ground when ready. Actually pretty slick.
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« Reply #86 on: July 14, 2008, 03:30:06 PM » |
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Hey guy, I've been busy as heck, as you're fully aware, trying to get the pieces finished so I can put the lump together.
A BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION IS IN ORDER FOR TOMORROW, JULY 13, 2008. BLACK LIGHTNING'S REAR ENGINE ROLLED OFF THE ASSEMBLY LINE AT THE WORKS IN STEVENAGE, ENGLAND 60 YEARS AGO--JULY 13, 1948.
In 1996, the liner's first time out, Don Vesco was my rider. We were on the salt shooting the breeze and some fellow walked up and asked, "Why are you using those forty year old push rod motors to try to set a record with?" Don smiled and replied, "The horses that those engines make don't know they're forty years old."
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Happy Birthday 60th yesterday HRD motor, HP is ageless, like a lot of us older folks, we don't realize we aren't 20 any more. Here is Max's "LUMP", quite a bit of progress over the last couple of days, the cranks are in, the case halves are together, 3 of the cylinders are on. The case joining the 2 motors is a Max special, trans cut off the front motor cases welded together and the gear drives all designed and built by Max. Here is your last chance to see a piston, Max prefers the big rings and lots of meat to the first land, kind of pushes the oil ring down into the pin boss. don't worry, there is plenty of meat left. This stuff is built to take Nitro, but Max is only planning on using alcohol.... Unless.... Compression around 7:1 |
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MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #87 on: July 14, 2008, 04:03:20 PM » |
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Let's start with the cylinders, they are special built for the extra stroke with added water muffs. Working out the water paths to eliminate trapped air was not a small task. Lets look at the front motor. Water hose from the tank goes in the lower inlet of the rear cylinder and on to the lower inlet of the front cylinder via a short hose. Water exits the front cylinder via the upper outlet on a short hose to the rear cylinder upper outlet, joins with the rear cylinder upper outlet water and exits back to the tank.
Here is a closer look at the HiVo chain going from the gear drive joined cranks to the clutch shaft.
Remember back a while when we first saw the cranks, I said they were supported by 4 bearings, 2 on each side, well Max has a 5th outer carrier bearing on the shafts as well to support the big shafts with the case cover. This is the inner race.
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MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #88 on: July 14, 2008, 04:24:52 PM » |
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Wondering about the other side? me too, lots to do here. Over the next couple of days Max will be installing and degreeing the cams and drives. Hope I make it over before this gets covered up, Vincent motors are really busy on this side. Max added 2 extra bolts to the cylinders to help clamp the heads down. You've probably seen the red spots in the other pictures, sealed bolts that go through a "wet to dry" area. Max has multiple motor vents, crankcase can breath through the roller bearings on the cranks to the gear drive area. They all collect in the frame member/puke can. I will try to catch more pictures in a couple of days, keeping up with Max when he is motor building is a challenge. |
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MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G, Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
Other kids A-G record 179.172 Josh O record 182.266
Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #89 on: July 14, 2008, 05:01:12 PM » |
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................I will try to catch more pictures in a couple of days, keeping up with Max when he is motor building is a challenge. ... Thanks for the effort Stainless and let Max know that we appreciate him being welling to share his build. It is awesome.... the bike, the body, and the engines/supercharger and transmission. I'm in awe, Sum |
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