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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2008, 07:32:05 AM »

Thanks Stainless!! Max's frame is truly a tribute to packageing everything into as small a frontal area as possible. Beautiful!!

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2008, 09:10:30 AM »

As it goes together, I'll try to get by and take more pictures.  Max squeezes a lot of stuff in a small package, I also like his style.  There might be a couple of cubic inches of wasted space.  The twin Vincents pump out a lot of grunt, hope to hear it at full song this year...  shocked
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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2008, 01:10:48 PM »

I'm not into bikes much but if I was this is the one. What a great piece of work.
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2008, 10:15:49 PM »

What an artist, thanks for posting. -Dean
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 09:55:23 PM »

Went by to see Max again, he is making progress getting it back together.  He has the new chute tube liners in, 2 of 3 water tanks mounted.  One mists the chain and clutch, another to mist around the motors, the last will be the cooling water for the cylinder liners. 
The chunk of iron is side car ballast doing double duty today holding the back of the scooter down while it hangs on a chain.

The additional fire bottles are in and actuating mechanisms installed, and so is the tranny.   Speaking of the tranny, I guess I screwed up the last description a little, Max is only using 2, 3 and 4, so low is actually 2nd.  Max also mentioned he didn't design the trans case, he just modified it to an unrecognizable state from a trans Don Vesco sent him.  It was considerably larger and heavier in its previous life. 

And the last is the trans mounted in the scooter with one of those water tanks above, Ill see if I shot another picture from the other side.  I still am amazed Max is shifting both gear sets with 1 actuator.  Max said the swing arm was going in tomorrow.

Tried that pictures mixed with text thing, going to have to work on that skill a little more, it was AFU... undecided


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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2008, 10:13:54 PM »

Here ya go, the trans from the other side and the actuator mounted. 

Also shot a picture of his new rear fender, looks a little like an old Harley front fender, but much larger.  Fits with the other part of the fender that is attached to the swingarm.  More pics to follow. 

I know I am going to the Bub meet, there could be another big "fast bike shootout" if the salt is in good condition.  Gotta get back to work on Jons engine and my fairing (fiberglass repair ya know)


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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 10:42:27 PM »

Stainless,

              Please keep posting this build! Thanks so much for your efforts.

Scott
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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2008, 10:57:18 PM »

Stainless,

              Please keep posting this build! Thanks so much for your efforts.

Scott

Yes thanks for teh pictures and info, seems like Max would go after a harder FIM absolute record first and then once he has done the hard work go after the "Wheel on a stick record"

Scott where ya been and let me know how mommy 2B is doing.

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On 9-27-08 we lost a great friend and fellow racer, he was the BEST, he helped anyone with anything at anytime.  His name is Dave Owen and he will be missed by all that knew him and I am glad to have met him.

Seeing him at Bonneville during 2008 Speedweek was the tops, Dave was in awe of the salt and as usual was there helping out anyone who asked..simply put we lost a great man who will be missed by all.
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« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2008, 11:04:02 PM »

Scott where ya been and let me know how mommy 2B is doing.

J

John, I have been taking care of her as she was put on bed rest. She is ok but we have had a few minor issues, thus the bed rest.

Scott

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2008, 09:06:10 AM »


Yes thanks for thepictures and info, seems like Max would go after a harder FIM absolute record first and then once he has done the hard work go after the "Wheel on a stick record"
J

Nope, Max it planning on starting with the FIM sidecar record, well under 200 and hopes to almost double it...  shocked
Then pop the chair off and run with the big boys....  cool

If you visit his website you can see the evolution of this bike.  Like all LSR guys, change is the only constant, that is how you make it go faster.
http://www.vincentstreamliner.com/
20 years is a long development for some guys, for LSR guys, it is just a little tick on the clock...
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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 06:04:53 AM »

it is interesting to watch the development of this project, thankyou to all concerned,,, i seam to recall reading somewhere that there has been a weight trimming exercise since last year, if so, how much weight has been taken out of the liner huh, (no sidecar)
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2008, 07:23:37 AM »

it is interesting to watch the development of this project, thankyou to all concerned,,, i seam to recall reading somewhere that there has been a weight trimming exercise since last year, if so, how much weight has been taken out of the liner huh, (no sidecar)

A little over a hundred pounds.

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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2008, 09:55:07 AM »

I promised a few more pictures of Max's bike going together, I mentioned the swing arm was going in, here are the pictures.  The first thing to notice is the downstop, the shiny round piece mounted to the frame.  Max has those in various sizes and in conjunction with the springs can set the ride from almost solid to soft, depending on the salt.  A few pictures back I showed the rear fender that looked like an old HD front, only larger, the rails on the top of the arm mount the fender, inside the arm you see the bottom half.

The top angle pic shows another view.  The big spring is the main suspension, adjusts ride height and stiffness, and must be installed simultaneously with the arm.  Then the porta-power compresses the arm, the shocks and stop get installed.  When Max is putting this all together he must install what looks like random pieces in a certain order.  So he cant just put in the suspension, then the solenoids and regulators, because once some parts are installed, others cannot be.  This is the way he has packaged so much in such a small area.  As I goes together the amount of open areas shrink to nothing, an engineering marvel....

The other side, wiring is being routed while there is still room to do it easily.  The 2 pull cables in front of the spring are for the externally actuated fire system, you saw the bottles that will be under the engines a few pictures ago.


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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2008, 09:57:15 AM »

Ignition coils are in, main fire system plumbing is in.  See the auto type coil on the floor also wired to the bike, that is just part of the tach drive.  A few years back, Max had an issue with his Tach causing an ignition problem, made the engines miss, so he just built an ignition sending unit that is basically an ignition to nowhere but the tach.  It is mechanically driven from the front motor.

Do you see the puke can, it is in both pictures, OK, it is a little hard to spot.  Look at the frame rail across the top of the engine bay, if you follow it to the tee on the right side you see one of the inlets.  Max uses this rail as the puke tank, it drains in the rear of the bay at the bottom of another tube.  Why, no for a big tank other than integrated into the frame. 

Max uses CO2 for pressure, part of it is a 300 PSI system, skids and parachute deployment ejection, then 100 PSI for shifting.  Water tank pressurization is accomplished with a mini compressor.  As I mentioned earlier, most of the small tanks you will see in pictures are cooling water tanks, using spray mists on the heads, chain, tires and clutch.  Keeping things cool make them last longer at the speeds this bike needs to go.  The water tanks are all built to fit available space.  The big one is Fuel, takes a lot of alcohol to feed 3000cc of blown Vincent motors.

You need to show up at the Bub to look at this scooter, it is an engineering masterpiece.  Of course many have seen the other bikes that preceded this one, they too were very nice pictures on his website.  This one is the evolution, and even though you think it might be finished, I'll bet Max continues to modify and improve until you see it in September.  Let's all say a little prayer for good salt and weather.  I try to keep up with a few pictures here, as Patti takes pictures, they show up on his website, so you may need to follow both.  Max still has a lot of assembly to do, glad he remembers the order to do it...  cool



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 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2008, 03:06:27 PM »

Hi all. I am new to this site and would like to say thanks to Stainless for keeping us in the Uk up to date. Some of us from the VOC sidecar section are coming over and hope to see a Vincent sidecar record taken. Good luck to all contestants. deejay499
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