Landracing Forum Home
May 23, 2012, 09:43:09 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News:
BACK TO LANDRACING.COM HOMEPAGE
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: NOS Metering@ Injectors or Distribution Block?  (Read 2461 times)
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
oz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Age: 48
Location: Leighton Buzzard GB
Posts: 552


Geordie Power.


« on: January 25, 2008, 02:46:35 AM »

Seems like Nos is my favourite topic of conversation but it isnt its just one of the them.Ok I have been thumbing through a few books and been on the web and have read that it is more advantageous to meter the Gas and Nitrous at the Distribution blocks rather than at the Injectors,Which would mean that you would only need to flow (theoretically)and balance up 2 jets rather than 8 on a four cyl engine which kinda makes sense to me only problem I can see in doing it that way is if there is any variation in the outlets of the injectors, THAT might cause a problem but they can be flow checked.. Anybody have any thoughts comments.

Cheers OZ
Logged

Newcastle born and bred a City built on Coal and Steel and a people built of stronger stuff
narider
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Age: 46
Location: Stafford, VA
Posts: 617


Self Moderating


WWW
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2008, 09:49:33 AM »

Hi Oz, I know plenty are doing it so take this for what it is(specualtion by someone that's not doing it).

If all post jetted passages(from the d-block jet out) aren't exactly equal(in all ways), then the metered amount will not be distributed the same.

Look at putting a jet before a 4 outlet shower head and then running those four lines to each cylinder with four exact same lines. If there's even the slightest more restriction(say more bend?) in one line then there are in the other 3, the others will have higher flow(and with less projection), although the difference at these sizes might be insignificant(?).

I wanted to make sure I was thinking about this correctly, so I just used the same scenario with about 20% bottle pressure(175psi), and at least in my("how far and how fast can I blow the assembly lube bottle across the floor"  and my "back of the hand pressure") comparrison tests, it seems like there is enough difference to matter.
Now as long as you tune each cylinder via AFR and EGT seperately once set up,  then you should be fine no matter what.

Looking forward to a more experienced answer myself(figured this might kick the ball though)... good question!
Todd
Logged
1212FBGS
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Age: 51
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 2450


WWW
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 01:20:38 PM »

dont do it.!.....
kent
Logged
narider
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Age: 46
Location: Stafford, VA
Posts: 617


Self Moderating


WWW
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 01:26:43 PM »

 rolleyes
I'm not sure I understand what your saying Kent? undecided
 grin
Todd
Logged
panic
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Location: Hempstead, New York
Posts: 592


« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 03:51:34 PM »

An unregulated line from the block to the port allows the nitrous to partially vaporize on the way. The same volume (more or less) will enter, but this will give a "soft hit" (i.e., momentary delay until the line chills) and potentially increase traction in a borderline case.
Some drag cars use this as a variable vs. converter flash point, chassis set-up etc.
Logged
Stainless1
Global Moderator
Hero Member
****
Offline Offline

Age: 61
Location: Wichita KS
Posts: 3765


Robert W. P. "Stainless" Steele Wichita, Kansas


« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 04:05:21 PM »

Or the N20 at 900 PSI travels 6 inches almost instantainously, while the fuel is passing through the jet and slowly filling its conduits at 10 PSI, motor only goes lean for about 3/10ths of a second, about 2/10ths too long...  shocked
Never tried or thought about it but I have to go with Kent on this one...  tongue
Logged

Stainless 
 MSA Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
 Builder of Bike 278 1000cc APS-G,  Kids Red Hat Record 208.959 (old PS rules)
 Other kids A-G record 179.172  Josh O record 182.266
 Co-owner of the Amo Steele Streamliner, #1411... still sorting
panic
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Location: Hempstead, New York
Posts: 592


« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 08:15:02 PM »

Yup - fuel must be plumbed directly, was referring only to nitrous lines.
Logged
1212FBGS
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Age: 51
Location: Vista, Ca
Posts: 2450


WWW
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2008, 02:49:42 AM »

been there, done that, replaced those pistons too....yup its the fuel thats the problem not the nos
kent
Logged
cusswar67
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1


« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 03:12:17 PM »

Hi oz m8 it's Mr potato head here ......sorry this is not the right place for this ! just like to say nice work m8!....well over my head!.......but like you say your paid from the neck up ! and i'm paid from the neck down !! lmao see you soon i hope m8 huh
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!


Google visited last this page May 15, 2012, 03:28:52 AM