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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2007, 03:16:03 PM »
Mr Jack  and Pork Pie
        Is it possible for the sake of discussion that the fastest motorcycle two  or three wheeled is Craig Breedloves  407 mph.Just a thought.
The fastest recognized Speed under FIM rules is Kitty O'Neil (Hamilton) when she reached at the Alvord Dry Lake in Oregon an average of 515+ mph. The fastest she drove was a one way run of 619 mph, which was very close to the record of Gary Gabelich.
Craig Breedlove drove with the Three Wheeler a faster average - 526 mph - the run which ends in the lake close to Wendover - but this and the second record was recognized by the FIA!!!!! Only the first record from 1963 was a FIM record....
Hope this clarify the FIM speeds......
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2007, 04:49:39 PM »
The FIA wanted the publicity and business for their own.
They have improved that substantially and continue to have a much friendlier entry policy that FIM could learn from.
Personnel interests will restrict FIM to the changes dictated by the promoter.
LSR should not work that way. :x
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2007, 02:02:29 PM »
The FIA wanted the publicity and business for their own.
They have improved that substantially and continue to have a much friendlier entry policy that FIM could learn from.
Personnel interests will restrict FIM to the changes dictated by the promoter.
LSR should not work that way. :x
For sure, in 1964 the FIA could't accept that "motorcycle" is the fastest vehicle on earth, so they broke there own rule to "keep" the record under the FIA flag......
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2007, 03:33:55 PM »
Hey, I got a "FOR SURE" out of PORK PIE !!!!
I have arrived !!!  LOL :wink:

He does a pretty good job and is certainly dedicated.
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2007, 03:55:12 PM »
Hey, I got a "FOR SURE" out of PORK PIE !!!!

I got just a weak  :-Dmoment
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2007, 06:12:43 PM »
Hey, I got a "FOR SURE" out of PORK PIE !!!!

I got just a weak  :-Dmoment

I was betting on translation error...  :roll:  :wink:
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2007, 07:24:05 PM »
High Gear: When Vesco ran his 314 MPH record he was in enough wind that for several miles he had two separate tracks. In the middle of the timed mile they were about 1 1/2" apart. He was up against the lock but stayed in it to get the record. The foot print for the front tire showed a scrubbing pattern for a LONG way.
Wind was not a problem when he ran the 318 record several days later. He ran the 318 record because there were no still fotos done of him on the earlier run and a major publication told him that if he did any advertising of the 314 record and used fotos, they would dispute him. So he ran the 318 record so we could do fotos.
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2007, 08:47:22 PM »
 I WISH THIS THING CAME WITH DIRECTIONS /????

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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2007, 08:50:11 PM »
was there ever an official time or mph for arfons 2 wheeler?

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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2007, 12:12:25 PM »
The event I remember was at a USFRA July meet ( I think ). He crashed right in front of us. He never made it to the clocks, besides the July meets were called tune-up meets with no official records to be set. They had clocks but made no pretense of certifying records.

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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2007, 12:38:41 PM »
Hey, I got a "FOR SURE" out of PORK PIE !!!!

I got just a weak  :-Dmoment

I was betting on translation error...  :roll:  :wink:
Thanks for this support :wink:
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2007, 01:15:25 PM »
The event I remember was at a USFRA July meet ( I think ). He crashed right in front of us. He never made it to the clocks, besides the July meets were called tune-up meets with no official records to be set. They had clocks but made no pretense of certifying records.
The meet you mentioned was the first time out with the Kawi power and the original paint job with the big Lightening Bolt.
the crash was due to an experiment to reverse the steering action in the bike to make it more like a car.
Don's well developed instincts prevailed and the crash was the result.
He was also driving with a broken shoulder blade from an endo on a Go Kart a couple of weeks earlier.
In all the years I knew him. that was the only time I saw a tear in his eye as we stuffed him in the liner.

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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2007, 02:44:06 PM »
I thought the question was regarding Art Arfon's jet bike
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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2007, 03:11:55 PM »
I thought the question was regarding Art Arfons jet bike
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And the answer is that it went up faster than it did forward.
He was lucky it came down on it's tail.
He came back with 3 wheels and it also failed.

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Re: worlds fastest motorcycle maybee
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2007, 04:03:27 PM »
I thought the question was regarding Art Arfons jet bike
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And the answer is that it went up faster than it did forward.
He was lucky it came down on it's tail.
He came back with 3 wheels and it also failed.

"Too old, too bold, very predictable."

Art Arfons Green Monster No. 27 was a four wheeler, there was a pair of small solid wheels directly behind the driver seat.
Also he didn't failed. The problem he suffered, was (he told me this at his place in Akron/Ohio) that the cockpit was not sealed properly, so he got a lot of salt in his cockpit with the result that he lost the view, also effect by the very flat windshield. The other problem was caused from the design - the solid wheels
(may be Art's jet car was the first who runs with solid wheels straight on the salt) - and the missing suspension with the short outrigger on the rear - created some nasty vibration.

The first year with the four wheeler - 1990 - he went on one of his three runs an average of 338 mph.

When he "flew" in 1989 with the motorcycle the bike was around 250 mph when he left the ground....
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