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« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2017, 10:31:07 PM »

Spaceport America website caters to event requests.
email: events@spaceportamerica.com
phone: 575-267-8500

Oklahoma Spaceport is experiencing much local frustration with lack of tenants and deteriorating structures.

Anybody within ECTA looked into these?

[Personally, I'd like to see SCTA or USFRA look at them as bad weather alternatives to Bonneville]




 Interesting but certainly not East Coast of the USA
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2017, 08:36:30 AM »

Oklahoma makes Loring look all the better for East Coast people.
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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2017, 11:50:39 AM »

Oklahoma makes Loring look all the better for East Coast people.




  I agree compleltly were lucky to have an excelent runway so were not left with no place to run here on the East Coast another plus is the 1 and 1.5 mile record potetal plus another mile to slow things down after the 1.5 mile clock.
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2017, 12:02:07 PM »

I saw yesterday that Amazon was not going to use Wilmington but another airport in OHIO. Anyone else see this?
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2017, 12:55:44 PM »

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/amazon-chooses-cvg-over-wilmington-airport-bring-thousands-jobs/CUI7NSJiPBi8pEirjxT0ML/



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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2017, 03:58:13 PM »

And to add insult to injury, Amazon will be laying off their existing employees in Wilmington too.  Unless they have another paying customer lined up, Wilmington should be begging all of their old groups to come back - just don't schedule us on the same weekends that they have the dog shows!
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2017, 05:32:51 PM »

Insurance, insurance, insurance.....
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2017, 10:12:30 PM »

No one is greedier than insurance companies.  I can get bound for $10 million in coverage in a matter of hours, that's not a hurdle.
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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2017, 09:29:01 AM »

It boils down to aviation insurance at a active runway, thus why no new spot has been found. Brian explained it all out on the ECTAs Facebook page
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« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2017, 06:11:44 PM »

No one is greedier than insurance companies.  I can get bound for $10 million in coverage in a matter of hours, that's not a hurdle.

You were saying.....
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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2017, 05:20:04 PM »

There are carriers that will insure anything.  Those dealers who have special where you get a free car if it snows that day - they get a carrier to insure the risk.  In my business we often have to get Lloyds of London to cover a policy.  It can be done if you go to the right people.  I am not an expert at aviation insurance, but if I was involved in trying to organize something like this I would work very hard to find a carrier who could help me.  Racing vehicles are much easier to budget for than satellite launches or nuclear waste, I just don't see the issue.
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2017, 05:33:35 PM »

There are carriers that will insure anything.  Those dealers who have special where you get a free car if it snows that day - they get a carrier to insure the risk.  In my business we often have to get Lloyds of London to cover a policy.  It can be done if you go to the right people.  I am not an expert at aviation insurance, but if I was involved in trying to organize something like this I would work very hard to find a carrier who could help me.  Racing vehicles are much easier to budget for than satellite launches or nuclear waste, I just don't see the issue.

  Bottom line, will the entry fees cover the insurance and other costs? I say this is likely the problem?
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2017, 09:19:17 PM »

A long time ago we were drag racing on an airport runway. This was stopped and the reason given was that FFA did not allow an active runway used for anything but aircraft use.
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« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2017, 08:48:47 AM »

 From the FAA website info concerning airport operations...I don't know if this is still current...

    
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1). Nonaeronautical Events.
  An airport developed or improve
d with federal funds may not be
closed  to  use  the  airport  facili
ties  for  special  outdoor  
events,  such  as  sports  car  races,  county  
fairs, parades, car testing, mode
l airplane events, etc., without F
AA approval.  This has been the
FAA  policy  since  1961  as  outlined  in  
Compliance  Requirements  Part  6.00
  (July  1961).    In  
certain   circumstances   where   promoting   aviati
on   awareness   through   su
ch   nonaeronautical  
activities as model airplane fl
ying, etc., the FAA does support the
limited use of airport facilities
so  long  as  there  is  not  total  cl
osure  of  the  airport.    In  thes
e  cases,  safeguards  need  to  be  
established to protect the aeronaut
ical use of the airport while
the nonaeronautical activities are
in progress and to ensure that safety is not compromised.  

  
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« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2017, 12:34:24 PM »

There must have been an internal decision at Wilmington that caused them not to let us come back.  If they turned SCTA away, it makes it sound like a no racing decision.  I'm not sure what FAA regs had to do unless they slipped by initially by using the remote location we used.

I'm pretty sure Blytheville in Arkansas still has active flights there, so it must be something else.  As for insurance costs being too high, they need to let us know and let the market decide.  If they tell us it will be $750 per entry that may be too much, but at least give us a chance to decide.
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