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« on: May 02, 2013, 08:10:58 PM »

Welcome to the DYNOTHON!

Date - May 9, 2013

Im challenging ALL of you to

A Join in the fun.
B Help us raise some funds for this website, which Slim and Nancy have been bearing the headaches and responsibilities for - along with the help of a few volunteers, for heck, quite a while, now.

With Slims cautious blessing, Im challenging you all to make a commitment to support this site with a donation.  The donation will be based on the BEST HORSEPOWER PULL WE CAN GET OUT OF MY 999 CC, 5 PORT, CARBURETTED, NORMALLY ASPIRATED, 3-MAIN BMC FORMULA 2 SPEC A-SERIES ENGINE.

Based on what is typical of the BMC engine when set up for racing, our best, optimistic guess should see this thing at between 93 and 105 horsepower.

Some examples for comparison

1. A 1310cc version of this engine, built by Fordboy, cranked out about 135 horsepower.  That was on SU carbs, and built to SCCA specs.

2.  On the other end of the spectrum, Dick Leuning of MG Limited and the Killer Beez racing team told me that 95 hp was about all one could expect out a 948 Sprite block, fully prepped.

What distinguishes my engine from either of these examples is what follows

A.  I have the bigger bore of the 1310 engine, which allows me the use of bigger valves than the 948 Sprite engine.
B.  I have a shorter stroke and, of course, less displacement than the 1275 based 1310, but the 1310 is considered undervalved for its displacement, so the head, though intended for a larger engine, actually breathes better with respect to the displacement than the larger engine.
C. Im running a Weber DCOE carb, rather than the SU carbs, with a better breathing manifold than one can typically find for SUs.
D.  Im running a direct fire Electromotive ignition which will allow me to dial in the advance curve to within an inch of its life, plus provide the safety of a knock sensor.
E.  The cam was custom ground by Dema Elgin to specs set forth by Fordboy for this specific application.
F.  Well be experimenting with three different sets of headers, and possibly two manifolds, looking for the best power under the curve we can get.  That said, the final iteration of the tune may not necessarily be the one with the largest horsepower number we may decide to give up a little on top for a tad more grunt.  Nevertheless, the largest horsepower number we generate will be the multiplier for the donation to landracing.com that Im asking you to commit to.

Fordboy will be posting the numbers.  

Ive kicked it off with a commitment of $1.00 per horsepower.

Rex, Jon and Graham have already met that challenge thank you gentlemen.  My goal for this is to see Slim and Nancy rake in at least $2,000.00 from this little side show.  If I can pull 100 hp, were already 1/5th of the way there.

No contribution will be considered too small, and if youd rather not make your generosity public, simply PM Slim the amount you want donate per horsepower, and well maintain your anonymity.

Lets keep this site financially healthy, and have some fun doing it.

Thank you in advance for your generous participation!

Chris Conrad
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 10:29:13 PM »

Well, OK!   cheers
I'm in for a buck a pop!  grin
Now don't you pop the engine running up the score.  shocked

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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 09:30:36 AM »

Well, OK!   cheers
I'm in for a buck a pop!  grin
Now don't you pop the engine running up the score.  shocked

Geo

I'm at a point where failure is not an option.

Thanks, Geoff.

Everybody else, step right up!  Cut-off will be May 9, 8:00 AM Central Daylight Time.

No Horsin' around - Pony up!
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 10:39:55 AM »

What did the Huffakers get back in the 60s?Huh?
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 11:10:56 AM »

What did the Huffakers get back in the 60s?Huh?

A good story from Fordboy about a Huffaker engined Midget . . .

An engine Fordboy prepped that he dynoed at 135 - a 1310 - consistently pulled away from a Huffaker prepped 1310 with an alleged hp of 145.  The claim was, of course, made by the team campaigning the car. . . sometimes not the most reliable source, and in SCCA, very likely liars playing head games with fellow competitors . . .


Was it actually putting out 145?  If so, there was something desperately wrong with either where it was making the power, the tune, or how it was putting it to the track.

I will not slam Huffaker - I've seen Spridgets prepped by these guys.  I actually sat in one once - where they found the leg room, I'll never know -  and I think their work is world class.  If money were no object, I'd have probably just written them a check and went racing.  And if anybody can get 145 out of a 1310, it's likely them.

As to their expertise in building a short-stroke A-Series engine, I don't know for sure.  I had actually contacted them when I started this project, but I simply couldn't afford to build the engine I wanted by using them.  And looking back, I'm glad I did it this way - I'm smarter for it.

As to short stroke Formula 2 spec motors such as mine, it's really a tough call, but I genuinely think the 95-100 hp range is realistic.

I don't think I'm sandbagging - if it goes much stronger than 100, I'll be delighted and surprised, and we will post the results.

Pony up, boys - this site doesn't run itself!
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 11:38:21 AM »

Chris,
  When are you going to tell them about the spray? grin

Just kidding, carry on. rolleyes

 
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 11:41:55 AM »

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I am good for a buck a horse...

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 02:17:05 PM »

I'm up for $1 per horse - go for it!!

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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2013, 04:00:54 PM »

Put me down for 2 as I just got my tax return back and need to spend it on something worth while.


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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 11:15:27 AM »

Were making some progress the following people have publically proclaimed their support of landracing.com with pledges of support for the Dynothon, this Thursday, May 9th

Rex Shimmer (US)     $1/hp
Jon (Aus)       $1/hp
Graham in Aus (Aus)   $1/hp
Aussievetteracer (Aus)   $1/hp
Gkabbt    (US)      $1/hp
DaveL (Aus)      $1/hp  
Geo (US)                    $1/hp
Wheelrdealer (US)                 $1/hp
Jh333 (US)      $2/hp
Myself  (US)      $1/hp

So far, were at $11.00 per horsepower (which I can assure you, is a fraction of what these little ponies are costing me to produce) and if I can pull 100 hp out of this lump, that would put us at 55% of the goal of $2,000.00 for Landracing.com.

Currently, 40% of the contributors are Australian.  Thats impressive for a country that is 7% of the population of the United States.  Stepping to the plate, and punching above their weight.  Thanks, guys!

I am beginning to wonder if there are any racers in Canada . . .

If youre reading this, youre using the service pony up!
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 01:19:15 PM »

Chris, remember that English horses, Shires, Clysdales, etc have more pulling power per animal.  This needs to be considered when you enter the dyno calibration coefficient.

The rest of you, make sure to donate.


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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2013, 01:52:00 PM »

I am rooting for you guys -- but want something  DIFFERENT  huh

 I will go $10.00 per pony over 93---

for the midgets sake---"Come on and HURT ME big guy" lol
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2013, 06:32:20 PM »

I am rooting for you guys -- but want something  DIFFERENT  huh

 I will go $10.00 per pony over 93---for the midgets sake---HURT ME lol

Bill, If I wanted to hurt you, I'd bring along a Nitrous bottle - but I suspect it would hurt the engine, too.  grin

Thanks, Sparky!
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2013, 06:46:51 PM »

OK.

I am flat broke, in fact I am borderline solvent with an uncertain outlook, but that's another story.....

This site has provided immense entertainment and useful information for us over the years and that is without mentioning the friendships my friends here and I have made. It's a drop in centre for the hare-brained thrill seekers and an in-joke fest for the OCD hard heads that most here are.

$1 per horse, plus fifty if you break it, even if I have to steal it. rolleyes

There , that should just about tip the scales to 50%.

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2013, 09:33:51 AM »

All right, I'll play your silly game.

$1 per horsepower

AND $5 per horsepower for each one equal to or above 93.
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