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« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2012, 02:29:54 PM »

Dan -- I think you might be wrong there.  These questions used to be asked by someone who went away.  Now, I guess, there's someone new asking them(?).

It's a very small world you live in.  1/2 the vehicles on earth are diesels.  Most of all vehicles are less than 20 years old.

Has Ford Motorsports fielded a '34 Ford lately?  They sponsored a diesel.  

Why is that? huh

In any case, racing is racing.  Anytime you want to run your "Street" roadster against a production licensed, smogged, insured diesel, let me know.  You don't mind if steering is involved right?  You can certainly whup a stock engine 3/4 ton 4x4 three ton pickup in the twisties right?  It's "street" right?  No, that's not fair, I have brakes.  Mohave Mile, bring in on.  Loser buys the entries.  Fair?  Or do you need a head start?  Or are you a keyboard racer?





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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2012, 02:35:16 PM »

Dan -- I think you might be wrong there.  These questions used to be asked by someone who went away.  Now, I guess, there's someone new asking them(?).

It's a very small world you live in.  1/2 the vehicles on earth are diesels.  Most of all vehicles are less than 20 years old.

Has Ford Motorsports fielded a '34 Ford lately?  They sponsored a diesel.  

Why is that? huh







So they could make up a FAKE record for promotional reasons! rolleyes
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« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2012, 02:43:14 PM »

Dan -- I think you might be wrong there.  These questions used to be asked by someone who went away.  Now, I guess, there's someone new asking them(?).

It's a very small world you live in.  1/2 the vehicles on earth are diesels.  Most of all vehicles are less than 20 years old.

Has Ford Motorsports fielded a '34 Ford lately?  They sponsored a diesel.  

Why is that? huh







So they could make up a FAKE record for promotional reasons! rolleyes

Promoting what?  GM and Dodge refuse to get involved with diesel racing.  It's an image problem for them.  The engineers wanted to, but their bosses canned it.  They help in secret when they can.
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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2012, 02:46:37 PM »

StanBack, you have very sweet car.  No intent to insult the car.  Let's race.  You'll win easy.  It's all power to weight. 
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« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2012, 02:49:05 PM »

You guys talking about this truck?

B(/DT)   Hajek Motorsports   B. Hajek   8/11   169.331

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/22/ford-f-250-super-duty-sets-diesel-and-biodiesel-land-speed-recor/

I can't find any references to Ford sponsorship.  Of course, Ford Motorsport (no "s") was changed to Ford Racing 15 or so years ago.

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« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2012, 02:55:55 PM »

You guys talking about this truck?

B(/DT)   Hajek Motorsports   B. Hajek   8/11   169.331

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/22/ford-f-250-super-duty-sets-diesel-and-biodiesel-land-speed-recor/

I can't find any references to Ford sponsorship.  Of course, Ford Motorsport (no "s") was changed to Ford Racing 15 or so years ago.

Mike

No, this one:  

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The truck’s final evaluation was done at Lockheed Martin’s 200-mph wind tunnel in Smyrna, Georgia, before the Super Duty was shipped to Bonneville.

Can you rent that tunnel?

At least they used a diesel pickup.
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« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2012, 03:07:35 PM »

Bug in board software for hyperlinks.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/1202dp_180_mph_2011_ford_f250_scorpion/
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« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2012, 03:21:44 PM »

That is the one I was thinking of, we have discussed it here in the past.


You guys talking about this truck?

B(/DT)   Hajek Motorsports   B. Hajek   8/11   169.331

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/22/ford-f-250-super-duty-sets-diesel-and-biodiesel-land-speed-recor/

I can't find any references to Ford sponsorship.  Of course, Ford Motorsport (no "s") was changed to Ford Racing 15 or so years ago.

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« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2012, 03:23:57 PM »

Wow.  [url} is busted good.

The Hajek Ford is a perfect example of a DT truck, for that class, and congrats to them.  It is a diesel pickup that has been hotrodded to go faster without serious body modifications.

However, the way rules are printed in the book, you MUST have either an engine swap or non-OEM supercharging, or a Quick Change.  This is under Gas Coupe.

That's just plain dumb.
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« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2012, 03:42:50 PM »

Wow.  [url} is busted good.

The Hajek Ford is a perfect example of a DT truck, for that class, and congrats to them.  It is a diesel pickup that has been hotrodded to go faster without serious body modifications.

However, the way rules are printed in the book, you MUST have either an engine swap or non-OEM supercharging, or a Quick Change.  This is under Gas Coupe.

That's just plain dumb.


You may think it may be dumb but it is the rules you have to play by.
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« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2012, 03:46:36 PM »

Pat: 5.F.4...typical diesel truck...engine and drivetrain swaps are permitted...In this class, all other rules will be the same as Gas Coupe and Sedan class...typical of street machines that may be purchased from any automobile dealer.

Trent:  The SCTA record looks valid to me.  I'm not into burning food, so I don't know about the biodiesel record.

BTW, the guy looks like he's not quite at the Poteet level, but he seems to have lots of money for racing: http://hajekmotorsports.com/.

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« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2012, 03:51:17 PM »

Pat: 5.F.4...typical diesel truck...engine and drivetrain swaps are permitted...In this class, all other rules will be the same as Gas Coupe and Sedan class...typical of street machines that may be purchased from any automobile dealer.

Trent:  The SCTA record looks valid to me.  I'm not into burning food, so I don't know about the biodiesel record.

BTW, the guy looks like he's not quite at the Poteet level, but he seems to have lots of money for racing: http://hajekmotorsports.com/.

Mike

There was one bogus claim  for a made up record as well as the official stuff.

Here is the thread  http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,10249.0.html
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« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2012, 03:52:48 PM »

OK, need to repair a machine.  Last words from me on the thread:

True B-20 or biodiesel sold at the pump has less energy than #2 diesel.  Veggy oil is lower than both.  I would not be surprised if he sprayed it.  It's common in diesels to spray nitrous, more so than cars.

StanBack, I'm kidding about the race.  But my SCTA DT entry did drive to El Mirage, then race, then drive back, and still drives on the street, and is smogged and registered.  It was my daily driver until the cage wrecked for street use.

It is still quicker 0-130mph than a ZR-1 Corvette.  By a lot.  And it's slow by today's standards.  It's vintage now.

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« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2012, 04:27:32 PM »

I've only had it for just over 50 years.  The roadster was street-driven for about 40 years.  It has driven to drag races and driven home.  And driven to El Mirage.  It's still currently licensed and street insured.  Doesn't have to pass smog.  It's built now for El Mirage and Bonneville, although it's seen twisties in its days.  It's fun to run the long course over 200 with a currently licensed and class legal vehicle.

On the street, it tends to blow my red hat off.
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« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2012, 04:59:12 PM »

  You guy's are starting to get cranky.  Viagra will do that to you.
  Stan has a excuse, he is old and us old guy's tend to be cranky when we forget our Metamusil.
  The rest of you need some Doggie Downers..........................  Bob
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