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« Reply #195 on: August 14, 2008, 10:21:07 PM »

Probably not a coincidence:

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J    Montana Magic    N. Mays     ' 90     215.632

Mike

That was their old liner that Burklands built for that record, it was powered by two Rotex engines. They sold that liner and built this new liner which is currently powered by a Buick V6 180" motor.


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« Reply #196 on: August 15, 2008, 08:34:33 AM »


Jon, I'm glad it's in your garage.

FREUD

Freud, just what I was thinking... Lots of toys in Jon's garage by the looks of it....   shocked rolleyes  wink
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« Reply #197 on: August 15, 2008, 11:49:06 AM »

you,re welcome, deb. on the mainframe 2-3x a week here @ public library.
 
stuck in the 90's, among other eras. good luck.
 
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« Reply #198 on: October 16, 2008, 08:40:24 PM »

this isn't really a reply to anyone in particular, but here it goes anyway. The Charlie Toy body in question was built in 1992 and required a tremendous amount of time and effort. To finalize my original design I first had to build a water tunnel and model to test with. this body was the second generation body as it was built on top of the original body that i got in the 2 club with in 1991. it was successfull for a few years before i took it to Kent to have him make an actual mold from it as it was actually a male plug. it has been modified over the years from its original shape, especially in the front portion. possibly Kent still has the original, I'm not sure. mounting and stance of body on a motorcycle is very critical as small amounts of angle change can alter air flow way more than it may seem. tunnel testing shows that when mounted properly, boundary layers and laminar flow perform well above 260 mph. one of these days! i have other designs and styles that should perform even better. interested people can contact me anytime by email. Kent did a really nice job when he made the first mold for me and there a ways to improve this design with very little effort. air cooled and liquid cooled bikes can use modified front section to facilitate higher speeds.hello to Kent and others i haven't talked to for a while. god bless. charlie
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« Reply #199 on: October 16, 2008, 08:46:40 PM »

Here we go again. I neglected to say that my kawasaki with my original updated body ran as fast as 238+ mph on only 9lbs of boost with a stock kz1000 engine. When properly set up it really worked well. Charlie
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« Reply #200 on: October 16, 2008, 10:39:21 PM »

Dodge Charlie, you can type... It is really great to see you on here. I have told people for years that the current body is NOT like the original. Now certain rules would prohibit the original design... And I have also stated that nobody had the body on like Charlie Did. I also remember one year you cutting up the front wheel fairing due to handling problems??

Where is your KZ1000 now? Ever a chance you would bring it back and kick some butt with that old air cooled, NON-intercooled, draw thru turbo setup??? We sure miss you out there.

I have a photo of the original body before paint, the picture was of you sitting on the bike possible over at Don Vesco's place. I will see if I can dig it out and post it.

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« Reply #201 on: October 16, 2008, 11:08:10 PM »

hey charlie
glad ta hear from ya...im gonna pm you cuz i have some changes planned and want to rum um by ya....talk to ya soon
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« Reply #202 on: October 17, 2008, 08:51:56 AM »

"powered by a Buick V6 180" motor"

You mean an older 90 Buick V6 block (V8-derived) with a flat 2-plane crank for exhaust tuning?
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« Reply #203 on: October 17, 2008, 09:08:02 AM »

"powered by a Buick V6 180" motor"

You mean an older 90 Buick V6 block (V8-derived) with a flat 2-plane crank for exhaust tuning?

Maybe... we are not that deep into the motor yet to see what we have, we know it is a stage 2 block, with some indy heads.  Look at the pictures and tell us...  shocked  We are not Buick guys (yet) and have a steep learning curve.  We have started our research, we are consulting guys that we know that know the motor.  As we learn more, so shall everyone else that participates here.  If anyone has info you think we need, please share it with us, as I said, we are learning the motor, the drive train and the car.  We are planning to race it next year.   I plan to spend way too much time in Denver the next 10 months.

There is a build diary started for the car, this one is back to the Bike, please post all car replies on the car diary.
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MSA Bockscar Lakester #1000 my fastest mile 245 and change, 84 ci turbobusa motor... but Corey's 233 MPH H/BFL record is still 3MPH faster than mine.
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