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« on: October 22, 2011, 04:30:52 PM »

Current wind from SSE 19 mph with gusts to 25 mph. Not the best to run under.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 04:38:14 PM »

All of the people, that I know, with fast bikes, have been on the trailer since about 10am. this morning.

Billy Shoemaker ran 252 this morning
Tom Gates 246, I think, naked.
Jennifer R 222 shakedown run on JohnnyCheese Copper top
Brenda Sue licensing on Jen's turbo. now licensed to 215
Karl G 217 yesterday
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 04:43:55 PM »

Thanks Fred,caution is wise.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011, 07:09:32 PM »

It's prudence, not just caution which makes the guys with 200mph+ bikes park em when the wind is up.

I'm the least "cautious" guy I know, but i ain't stupid.

Big hp bikes are run by serious people, we know that battling a side/head wind only scrubs off speed, and isn't safe, so why beat up a $15000 motor and risk a crash to run less than the bike is capable of.

In May I ran my 280hp NA Busa into a 20-25mph direct headwind, straight down the track.
Why?  I was curious how it would do, and IMO a straight headwind poses no safety issues.
It ran 211.5, experiment over, I parked it.

This morning I ran 218.3 on the same venue into a 5-7mph-ish quartering headwind, got back into the grid.
An hour later, i pulled my bike from the grid bc wind was up to 10-15mph.

What's the point of running 214-ish?Huh

Prudence.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 07:11:57 PM »

Karl or rather Prudence.   

"There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. However, there are no old bold pilots."


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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 11:41:42 PM »


"There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. However, there are no few old bold pilots."


For some reason there seems to be the very odd person with a serious case of horseshoes!!!! evil evil evil

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 02:10:58 AM »

Karl or rather Prudence.  
"There are old pilots and there are bold pilots. However, there are no old bold pilots."
Joe
hey Joe
At only 63 i'm not old!!!!!
My cool job at Chevron is Major Capital Project Quantitative Risk Assessment.
We assess the risks of all significant activities during engineering, manufacturing, fabrication, construction and installation of offshore facilities, including the actual derrick(s) lift of topsides onto the jacket. 25mi offshore, 25,000,000 pound structures, wind and waves are a risk "consideration".  
Assess the risk & develop/implement mitigation plans;
Chevron creed = "do it safely or not at all"

IMO running a bike on asphalt into a strong straight headwind has virtually no more risk than dead air.  
As the head wind becomes more quartering, risk increases; if the wind is gusting, risk REALLY increases.  
In Texas we always seem to have a wind, and we make a judgement on every pass.
I parked my bike on Sat & Sun after the 1st 7:30-8am pass bc wind came up.  IMO the steady 10-15mph wind at 10am wasn't at all risky, just saw no point in going slower.

PeterJack's judgement of "horseshoes"?  I disagree.  
LSR has risk from one end to the other.
Driving to the track is risky.
Telling yr wife you are going to do 3 events in Oct (Mojave, Texas, Maxton) is very risky.
We assess and mitigate.  
There is NO black & white.
Karl
see you at Maxton, if the wife doesn't kill me.
BTW: My Chevron boss does not like my risky LSR obsession at all, corporate culture is ZERO risk
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 04:52:33 AM »

Karl - I never thought you were reckless. Sorry if it sounded like that.  Wow, 3 events in October. See you next week.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 06:24:59 AM »

Karl - I never thought you were reckless. Sorry if it sounded like that.  Wow, 3 events in October. See you next week.

Joe,
i wasn't aiming my post at you at all.
I know that you know i don't run when winds are in bad ju-ju land, and in Texas we get a heck of a lot of bad wind.

I guess the point i'm trying to make is that a wind level which will shut down a Bonneville event(salt traction issues) or Maxton (narrow track) would not necessarily shut down Texas, Loring, Mojave (wide tracks).

It ain't black & white, it's a judgement call.

BTW:  I'll see you THIS week (not next week)  cheers
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 08:10:29 AM »

Karl:

My post wasn't aimed at you either. Most of the guys going really fast are rather good at assessing the risks involved and acting accordingly. Most of those I was referring to tend to be young and lack the judgement that comes with either maturity or early experiences they manage to survive.

Keep up the good, fast work.

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 08:25:56 AM »

Karl:
My post wasn't aimed at you either. Most of the guys going really fast are rather good at assessing the risks involved and acting accordingly. Most of those I was referring to tend to be young and lack the judgement that comes with either maturity or early experiences they manage to survive.
Keep up the good, fast work.
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PJ, thanks for reply.

I get a bit of shinola at work about being a adrenaline/risk junky so i guess i am too sensitive.

At Texas, the bike guys try to look out for the folks new to the sport, especially when they come with a boatload of hp.  We don't get to everyone, and there are those who just won't listen (young AND old). grin
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 11:38:20 PM »

Karl, too sensitive??? rolleyes
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2011, 04:01:35 AM »

Karl, too sensitive??? rolleyes

sensitive & shy, that's me.

hey Tom, i stopped by yr pits on the way out to say adios, but you and yr bride were elsewhere  sad

my tire went completely away, Sunday am pass was a spinfest.
No Texas 220 for me, boo-hoo, waaaahhhhhhhhh...

Just mounted a new Power One, headed to Maxton tomorrow am.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2011, 06:47:44 AM »

Karl- see you at Maxton
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2011, 08:10:42 AM »

Karl- see you at Maxton

Joe, you gonna get me thru tech in record time??? grin

It doesn't seem like we'll get any tailwind to held push my TFA down the track, but i'm loading up tomorrow am anyway.
See you there. cheers
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